Thursday, July 12th 2007

OCZ Cryo-Z just around the corner

OCZ has been talking about its Cryo-Z phase-change cooler for quite some time now and, although promises were high and mighty, the minutes, hours, days and months have passed and nothing became a reality.

The Cryo-Z has been recently deemed as canceled, the rumor was countered by OCZ but the whole truth is that, more than a year after it was first showcased, the Cryo-Z is finally on the home stretch. The phase-change cooler is currently in the safe hands of OCZ's engineers and it will arrive in stores very soon, before the end of this quarter. It should be very appealing to anyone who wants to run (overclocked) CPUs at sub-zero temperatures.

The unit should cost around $300 (last pricing update a year ago).

Source: TechConnect
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38 Comments on OCZ Cryo-Z just around the corner

#1
DaMulta
My stars went supernova
I want! I want! I want!
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#2
d44ve
niiiiiice.... not a bad price still
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#3
mullered07
yummy wouldnt mind one of them, anyone know of any phase change cooling solutions out at the moment at reasonable prices ?
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#4
d44ve
what would you consider reasonable?
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#5
russianboy
I think the current ones are like $1000, idk.

Even though I don't overclock and don't need sub-zero cooling, It is a nice little innovation, perhaps the technology will become commonplace and we will all be running 10 GHz cpus.

Cool!
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#6
kwchang007
300....nice. phase change for the masses :toast:.....i wonder when they'll combine phase change with water cooling...
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#7
Chewy
Woot nice, does that box go outside of your case though? I dont see it fitting in my case.
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#8
FreedomEclipse
Crazy Dogmatic Bullsh!t!
I Still really sceptical about Cryo-coolers. Maybe back in the day when people were running Outdated p4 Presscott Cores & AMD64 Clawhammers then the Cryo-coolers would have been super useful.

But I still think THEORETICALY that having watercooling is more Practical. If they want to be more Innovative then maybe they should work around that & try to evolve water cooling a little further....

For instance. Having a little Cryo unit which attaches to the radiator on your water cooling kit & lowering the temp of the water even further then what the fans are capable of???? IMHO that would sell mega big bucks.

In this day & age where they have Air coolers available which rivals watercoolers theres really not much point yet for such a unit unless you were running a 10Ghz CPU or an uber hot graphics card or chipset. but as far as I know Cryo-coolers are only available to work on CPU's not GPU's which kinda makes them less practical for the amount of cash spent on it






EDIT: Cryo me a river :P

I dont think I have to run through all the negatives of having a Cryo-cooler unit.
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#9
russianboy
by: kwchang007
300....nice. phase change for the masses :toast:.....i wonder when they'll combine phase change with water cooling...
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Phase change is sub-zero, water will quickly freeze rendering the system useless.

Using water as the phase change medium will not work as well as water boils @ 100c, by that time your core will be dead.

I don't see how water and phase-change can be "combined", please explain.
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#10
kwchang007
by: russianboy
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Phase change is sub-zero, water will quickly freeze rendering the system useless.

Using water as the phase change medium will not work as well as water boils @ 100c, by that time your core will be dead.

I don't see how water and phase-change can be "combined", please explain.
basically what freedomeclipse said, i mean, youd have to use antifreeze instead of water, but it would work (even though it may conduct electricity), but if you have a properly built liquid cooling system then you should be fine. (no leeks).
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#11
mullered07
seems a bit complicated to me, phase change on its own does fine why the need to mix it iwth water (anti-freeze) cooling ?


mmmmmmmmm core0 -14c/core1 -14c :toast:
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#12
Dippyskoodlez
by: kwchang007
basically what freedomeclipse said, i mean, youd have to use antifreeze instead of water, but it would work (even though it may conduct electricity), but if you have a properly built liquid cooling system then you should be fine. (no leeks).
Direct die cooling will handle a load better, and with colder temperatures. (Not to mention significantly cheaper, simply on the account theres no water loop, and a fraction of the insulation necessary, let alone chemical balance....)

Clockspeed scales with temperature. -10C Vs -40C will give you different overclocks.

And thats what this is for.

If they can manage to pull off a $300 price tag I'll be impressed. It would sell like hotcakes.

And knowing OCZ they'll hopefully build it with a decent compressor so it can be regassed to something a bit.... more extreme :)
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#13
kwchang007
by: Dippyskoodlez
Direct die cooling will handle a load better, and with colder temperatures.

Clockspeed scales with temperature. -10C Vs -40C will give you different overclocks.

And thats what this is for.
true....but what if you also want to cool your gpu at sub 0 C temps, your nb, and your ram? that's more of what i was thinking of.
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Dippyskoodlez
by: kwchang007
true....but what if you also want to cool your gpu at sub 0 C temps, your nb, and your ram? that's more of what i was thinking of.
Welcome to the world of extreme cooling. Get your water loops handy.

Its possible to do a dual head phase change, but its really difficult. People have done SLI autocascades and such.

You'll get better results with your CPU direct die cooled and NB water cooled, than futile attempts to sub zero cool your NB. Not to mention Chilled water loop insulation is a LOT of insulating to do. You have to insulate prettymuch everything, and doing that with a multi-block setup would be a NIGHTMARE.


Also note, sub zero cooling your ram is useless. Ram behaves like a capacitor. Cooling it will not provide speed increases. Just keep it within its operating ranges. (This is not saying cooling ram is ineffective, I'm saying cooling your ram beyond whats necessary i.e. -10C is counterproductive)
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#15
kwchang007
by: Dippyskoodlez

Its possible to do a dual head phase change, but its really difficult.
what's dual head phase change?
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#16
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
MINE! MINE! MINE! About damn time they got this affordable Phase Change up and going. I cant wait for it to come out. Count me in as someone who will definately buy this puppy.
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#17
bigboi86
by: kwchang007
what's dual head phase change?
It means it has two evaporators on the unit. Meaning.... two cooling blocks, or more.

@ freedomeclipse.. opeth is my favorite band of all time :)
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#18
d44ve
I would like to see this retail for 300 dollars.... if it does, everyone will have one.

Untill then... I will stay sub zero with my TEC and water cooling setup :)
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#20
Dippyskoodlez
by: a111087
Overkill ...
No such thing :cool:


Especially considering you would actually see a benefit from using it ;)
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#21
Chewy
by: a111087
Overkill ...
At this price it dont matter, also I dont think the maintenance would be high on a a unit like this, compared to water cooling. :) I thikn it looks cool someone in the case mod gallery has one and its :pimp:
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#22
bigboi86
I'd fill it with R404 :toast:

300bucks is an awesome price for this.. the cheapest you could get a phase change system is 900 bucks from MachII, or Asetek.
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#23
Steevo
I thought about a custom built ammonia heat system.
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#24
Wile E
Power User
If it is indeed around $300, consider it sold. Then my chipset and gpu can have my water kit all to themselves.
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