Six hundred dollars!!! :eek: awww..

Specs look good, but man.. NVidia is hunting for fat wallets again :twitch:

huh...$600+ :shadedshu

It better be the best dang thing ever. They just seem to be asking for it this time. I don't see how that price will cut mustard at all, especially with the fabled 4870x2 @ $500. Hopefully that price will talk the talk of how much of a monster it will be.

Wow the GTX280 is a true monster. 600 dollars is not too much if you compare the price that had one 8800 ultra some years ago. And the 8800 Ultra black pearl or the Evga 8800 Ultra superclocked ? The most expensive cards ever sell.

Ridiculous prices again - I really hope ATi wipe the floor with those idiots at nVidia this time.

v-zeroRidiculous prices again - I really hope ATi wipe the floor with those idiots at nVidia this time.

at least with price/perf. they will;common user don't buy the high-end cards and the 5-600$ cards are good for e-penis and records...

for everyone bitching about the price. Remember when the x800/x850 came out?
Remember the 8800 ultra? It was like $800. The GTX was around $600 as well.
Prices will come down, everything is always uber expensive at launch...

laszloat least with price/perf. they will;common user don't buy the high-end cards and the 5-600$ cards are good for e-penis and records...

Well said, mate! Besides, what does one need such a graphics card for? I`m running every single game (except Crysis course) on high at 1920 x 1200 with a 8800GT 512Mb. And there`s the fact that more and more developers are abandoning the PC platform :(

Price bitching is fine & all but if its not faster than the 4870x2 then its worthless, & no I don't care about comparing a 2 gpu setup to 1. It may cost them that much to produce it but it should atleast included GDDR5 instead of sticking with the stuff they've been using for the last 3 yrs.

Well if it's going to have a 3% to 6% advantage performance wise against the 4xxx then I guess the price is justified. We'll just wait to see.

I wont line NVIDIA's pockets anymore with my cash, as long as ATi's products can play all the new games at max settings while costing less.

On paper ATi looks better, nobody can deny that, but in real life games are mostly designed in partnership with NVIDIA. Games made specifically for ATi products run much better on ATi what a surprise...

Makes you think a bit of what's more important, making big and bad GPU's or optimizing the software

whats with the GTX 260?

33% more shaders, but clocked 35% slower than the shaders on the 8800 GTX...I somehow fail to see how this card will massively pwn the 8800 GTX at twice the current price...maybe it overclocks well? We europeans can expect a price of 399 and 599 Euros when the cards hit. way to much for my taste.

cheers
DS

wow $600 is a bit steep, wonder has that'll translate into pounds over here. I reckon £400 :(

Here's an interesting comparison chart:


If the 4870 is nearlly as fast as the GTX280 it'll be a much better buy I think.

Black HadesWell if it's going to have a 3% to 6% advantage performance wise against the 4xxx then I guess the price is justified. We'll just wait to see.

I wont line NVIDIA's pockets anymore with my cash, as long as ATi's products can play all the new games at max settings while costing less.

On paper ATi looks better, nobody can deny that, but in real life games are mostly designed in partnership with NVIDIA. Games made specificaly for ATi products run much better on ATi what a surprise...

Makes you think a bit of what's more important, making big and bad GPU's or optimizing the software

I totally agree. you have totally hit the nail on the head

from what oli_ramsay post...

ati/amd are better from design :D

Darksaberwhats with the GTX 260?

33% more shaders, but clocked 35% slower than the shaders on the 8800 GTX...I somehow fail to see how this card will massively pwn the 8800 GTX at twice the current price...maybe it overclocks well? We europeans can expect a price of 399 and 599 Euros when the cards hit. way to much for my taste.

cheers
DS

Dude.. it's 50% more. How did you get to 33%? And you should compare it to the 8800 GTS which it has 100% more. The shader clock is irelevant seeing as 65nm can get you 2000Mhz.

adrianxfrom what oli_ramsay post...

ati/amd are better from design :D

They sure do, nearlly 1/2 the price and nearlly 100 watts less power consumption which is an important thing to consider with energy prices relentlessly shooting up.

Just hope they perform well, can't wait for some benchies :D

It seems nvidia really thinks they must have something special here. Although i guess considering the card lineup the price and such should be about right with the GTX260 sitting above the 9800GX2 and the GTX280 sitting above that. The prices actually make sense. Price doesn't matter as much to the target audience of these cards and this way nvidia might be able to say they have the fastest GPU's in the world.

Now I am about to have enough! Can't any one wait for a little while and see the street prices and real world performance before comparing products? C'mon guys! Who cares wich cards is the best 1 month before it hits the market?

For my part, I don'T. When I see real world performances and I can select the card at my favorite online stores, then and then only will I have an opinion on any cards or products from any manufacturer.

The only thing we KNOW for now, and this may not even be true (I hope it is), is that either the 48xx or the gt2xx will be better than wath we have rigth now, but not as good as wath will be available in 6 to 8 months

Franck

Yet again I see "GT200" which doesn't exit...
It's G200.

I spent 600+ on my card, not because of the E-penis, but I was going SLI ether way to try things out. So, I think If needed, Id get one of these cards at the same price. But, I just hope for others that the price will be difference with others...

WeerDude.. it's 50% more. How did you get to 33%? And you should compare it to the 8800 GTS which it has 100% more. The shader clock is irelevant seeing as 65nm can get you 2000Mhz.

LOL let me rephrase that :D

The 8800 GTX has 2/3 of the shaders (128 instead of 192) but those are 35% faster (stock). So that leaves a bit of extra performance for the 260 just looking at the shaders, of course I am not considering GPU design an so on...could be that the 260 blows the 88gtx to pieces...

time will tell ^^

cheers
DS

Ati can just RUN the games, but how he run the games everybody knows. Between the playable ( around 50fps ) and the unplayable ( Under the 60 fps ) but nothing special.








Why I have to purchase a card that is all right only in the benchmarks ? :banghead::banghead:

AnimalpakAti can just RUN the games, but how he run the games everybody knows. Between the playable ( around 50fps ) and the unplayable ( Under the 60 fps ) but nothing special.

don't understand what you mean playable 50 and unplayable under 60?

all games with 30 fps are playable;human eye don't see the the frames above 25 fps maybe you have some special implants (from Nvidia) and you have reached the 50 fps target as minimum,good for you and good for us who play above 30 and under 60 and we're happy with it.

Darksaber,
There's a huge difference in SP throughput compared to G80:
G80GTX
128SPs (MADD) @ 1.35GHz
->
345.6GFLOPS


GTX280
240SPs (MADD+MUL) @ 1.296GHz
->
933.12GFLOPS
That's exactly 2.7 times that of G80.

Animalpak,
By the looks of your graphs you have the gaming card (8800Ultra). HD3870X2 is the benchmarking card.

hatfor everyone bitching about the price. Remember when the x800/x850 came out?
Remember the 8800 ultra? It was like $800. The GTX was around $600 as well.
Prices will come down, everything is always uber expensive at launch...

The problem with opinion is that back then the performance increase was needed. As it stands now, the added performance increase is not needed at such a high premium. A lot of high end card owners aren't over-clocking like they did in days past. That's a pure indicator that we have plateau'd above average frame rates in most games. Sure, e-peen dictates higher FPS is better then what you get now. However, having a card that can play games at above average frame rates without even overclocking (in most cases) would be hard pressed to buy a card that cost $600+.

That is too much for me to pay! Why would you spend that much money?