| Saturday, July 12 2008 |

The ATI Radeon HD 4850 has been a success so far and Sapphire decides to expand their product range with Sapphire Radeon HD4850 1GB. Chinese website ITOCP released fresh pictures of this new card. It looks promising. This follows the release of pictures of the Toxic Radeon HD4850 we covered here.
The pictures show the card in the usual blue Sapphire PCB, and a heatsink covering in a similar fashion to that of some NVIDIA cards.
Source: ITOCP
The pictures show the card in the usual blue Sapphire PCB, and a heatsink covering in a similar fashion to that of some NVIDIA cards.
Source: ITOCP
User comments
why that fruity shade of blue? wonder what type of memory they are using.
fugly cooler...
Let's hope it turns out to be 8 x 1Gb chips and not 16 chips (8 / side). I'm trying to look for a shot of the other side of the PCB.
stock clocks?
i wouldnt want that in my case .. better they went black.
i wouldnt want that in my case .. better they went black.
This site shows the back side so it looks like it's only using 8 mem chips.
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=20678&catid=2
Toss the fugly, inadequate cooler in the trash and it might be a nice card.
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=20678&catid=2
Toss the fugly, inadequate cooler in the trash and it might be a nice card.
by: [I.R.A]_FBi;882114According to the above site, stock clocks...I dunno if the fuglyness+extra price=my money:laugh:
stock clocks?
i wouldnt want that in my case .. better they went black.
i somehow feel its the same cooler witha bigger shroud
by: [I.R.A]_FBi;882128Yep, same cooler, ugly'er shroud...wish they would have went black/red colors:rolleyes:
i somehow feel its the same cooler witha bigger shroud
by: Urbklr;882130I was thinking the same. Let a mini Photoshop skills show-off begin.
Yep, same cooler, ugly'er shroud...wish they would have went black/red colors:rolleyes:
My eyes - the fugly cooler - plz make it stop, NOW. They've really lost their minds.
by: btarunr;882155I was gonna post a pic, but I quickly found out I suck at Photoshop:(
I was thinking the same. Let a mini Photoshop skills show-off begin.
that cooler is nothing but a standard 4850 cooler covered by some ugly blue cover, near the DVI ports you can even see it because the 4850 cooler curves,
why would they put an ugly blue cover on a cooler that already sucks
looks like tey married an 8800GT with a 4850 and had a hellspawn, its so uGLY
I could make a better looking stroud in my basement
maybe they'll be a discount cause its so fUgly
why would they put an ugly blue cover on a cooler that already sucks
looks like tey married an 8800GT with a 4850 and had a hellspawn, its so uGLY
I could make a better looking stroud in my basement
maybe they'll be a discount cause its so fUgly
yea, it looks like the first 8800GT coolers.
The PCB is definately not my favorite shade but hey...I don't ever have to really look at it once it's in anyway, I'd love to see some reviews on it though. And why do people say the cooler on the 4850 sucks? The cooler is just fine especially for a stock cooler, if you know what you're doing you can set the fan up yourself since there are no official drivers for the cards to make them work anyway. My fan cools just fine sitting at 55C idle and reaching max temp of 81C under Furbench stability test load. The fan speeds at those settings (automatically controlled not by profiles) are 33% and 59% respectively. Both of those settings are extremely quiet at all times, it's not until you actually get to 59% that you actually hear the cooler making noise at all and even then it's only a whisper.
Sure there are better coolers out there (I think I'm switching to the Gigabyte V-power soon) but the stock one doesn't suck it just got a bad rap from being released too early w/o drivers to control the cooler so it's stuck on a single setting until you reach a huge temperature when it'll kick up to a different one.
Btw...damn...that card really IS ugly! :roll:
K
Sure there are better coolers out there (I think I'm switching to the Gigabyte V-power soon) but the stock one doesn't suck it just got a bad rap from being released too early w/o drivers to control the cooler so it's stuck on a single setting until you reach a huge temperature when it'll kick up to a different one.
Btw...damn...that card really IS ugly! :roll:
K
OMG that cooler is ugly. It looks like something from 1953. Why didn't they just use a blue transparent cooler instead of the red one they launched with and keep the black sticker on it.
by: acperience7;882212
OMG that cooler is ugly. It looks like something from 1953. Why didn't they just use a blue transparent cooler instead of the red one they launched with and keep the black sticker on it.
maybe the guy who were working on it had a 8800GT and a 4850 sitting next to each other and one of them said "I just got an Idea:eek:"
I love the color of the cooler! very 70s / azn
by: btarunr;882098lookin at the solder points on the back of the pcb, it looks like theres 8 chips.. plus theres no chips on the back of the pcb so.
Let's hope it turns out to be 8 x 1Gb chips and not 16 chips (8 / side). I'm trying to look for a shot of the other side of the PCB.
by: panchoman;882250I added that pic later.....after I posted about uncertainity over number of chips. See, that pic doesn't even carry that ITOCP watermark. :p
lookin at the solder points on the back of the pcb, it looks like theres 8 chips.. plus theres no chips on the back of the pcb so.
The box is black,,LOL
by: steelkane;882359Why in the hell they couldn't make the thing black too (with a clear black ~smoke~ cooler). Damn that thing hurts my eyes :shadedshu
The box is black,,LOL
fale?
Still that crappy cooler, sure that keeps prices down but I would rather pay more instead of have to pay extra for an 3rd party cooler from TR or whoever.
I kinda like the cooler even if it looks like a slab of tofu and blueberry yogurt.
Now i just purchased today the 512MB model ... the 1GB model ... lol!!! fu**ers!!! :D
It's just JK, i'm very happy of the change since 2xHD2600 Pro, this card is amazing, even with just 512MB i'm almost hitting 15k with 685Mhz/1020Mhz on the card ... maybe i'll purchase this 1GB within some months to do the X-Fire, should be great :)
Btw, the stock cooler of 4850 is not that crap ... if you up the speed till 40% (not too much noisy) it maintains 46ēC @ idle at stock clocks ... and arriving till 61-62ēC after 30mins full ... and this one seems better so i don't think it's bad at all. Same thing happened with 3870x2
:toast:
It's just JK, i'm very happy of the change since 2xHD2600 Pro, this card is amazing, even with just 512MB i'm almost hitting 15k with 685Mhz/1020Mhz on the card ... maybe i'll purchase this 1GB within some months to do the X-Fire, should be great :)
Btw, the stock cooler of 4850 is not that crap ... if you up the speed till 40% (not too much noisy) it maintains 46ēC @ idle at stock clocks ... and arriving till 61-62ēC after 30mins full ... and this one seems better so i don't think it's bad at all. Same thing happened with 3870x2
:toast:
I just made your product 100x better in about 30sec. of MSPaint.


by: SirKeldon;882628Yeah I found 35% to be great for windows keeps it low temp and quiet, but when running ATI tools artifact tester or heavy games like crysis it got too hot still so I found 60% to be the next stop, in a quiet room you hear it for sure, but while playing a game I did not hear it. Higher than 60% didnt seem to give much benifit and got much louder. 100% is insane.
Now i just purchased today the 512MB model ... the 1GB model ... lol!!! fu**ers!!! :D
It's just JK, i'm very happy of the change since 2xHD2600 Pro, this card is amazing, even with just 512MB i'm almost hitting 15k with 685Mhz/1020Mhz on the card ... maybe i'll purchase this 1GB within some months to do the X-Fire, should be great :)
Btw, the stock cooler of 4850 is not that crap ... if you up the speed till 40% (not too much noisy) it maintains 46ēC @ idle at stock clocks ... and arriving till 61-62ēC after 30mins full ... and this one seems better so i don't think it's bad at all. Same thing happened with 3870x2
:toast:
So I created two profiles one called stock with stock clocks for windows and stuff with 35% fan and one called overclock with 60% fan speed and clocks at 675/1050 (my max stable for both cards in crossfire)
I however did a bios flash just the other day and now my temps will change the fan speed acordingly so no more profile swaping for me and I have the cards at 710/1050 now ^^ because you can boost the core voltage in the bios from ~1.1 to 1.2 it seems it may be stable at 720mhz but I am not 100% sure yet.
Keep in mind 2 things
1.) My case is a P182SE so its a very quiet case but not the greatest airflow due to the dust filters & fan coverings.
2.) I have 2 cards in crossfire so more noise & temps vs a 1 card setup.
Autotune put my cards at 690/1160 and 690/1065 so looks like one card is crap compared to the other when it comes to memory :(
1GB is a good idea but I don't really feel like swapping the cooler and voiding the warranty day one or being embarrassed to open my case.
I think I'll wait for the Asus version which looks better and includes a decent, quiet cooler.
ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/1G
There are 3 wires going to the fan so the speed should be software controllable.
I think I'll wait for the Asus version which looks better and includes a decent, quiet cooler.
ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/1G
There are 3 wires going to the fan so the speed should be software controllable.
hell, if you just want pure cooling performance then go for the quad fan hyper sink edition ^^ :laugh:


Has anyone noticed that the cooling fins are ALUMINIUM? - There is no copper in sight!!! Oh dear, I'd think that the newe PCB colour would mean a different bios with different fanspeeds, but this just reminds me of the Sapphire X1950PRO; where aluminium was used instead of copper.
FALE. as IRA FBI said.
Cost cutting bonanza ftw! Then again, IF these cards prove to be cheaper, you could easily fix up the cooling issue by just getting an AcceleroS1 + some extra ramsinks for mosfets.
Lets see guys, which do you prefer?:
Sapphire X1950PRO

or
Sapphire HD4850

Sapphire's warranty normally covers even cooler replacements; it happened with the X1950PROs when they died cause people didnt cool their digital MOSFETs when installing VF900CUs :laugh:, and what? How does opening your case make you embarassed???
I wouldnt buy that ASUS cause the MOSFETs are bare, However, ASUS did retain all four phases so therefore the MOSFETs shouldnt run warm at all. I remember on the HD3850 they only had two of the four GPU phases intact and therefore the MOSFET heatsink was necessary. How much power usage does a 4850 have anyway?
FALE. as IRA FBI said.
Cost cutting bonanza ftw! Then again, IF these cards prove to be cheaper, you could easily fix up the cooling issue by just getting an AcceleroS1 + some extra ramsinks for mosfets.
Lets see guys, which do you prefer?:
Sapphire X1950PRO

or
Sapphire HD4850

by: unclewebb;882930
1GB is a good idea but I don't really feel like swapping the cooler and voiding the warranty day one or being embarrassed to open my case.
I think I'll wait for the Asus version which looks better and includes a decent, quiet cooler.
ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/1G
There are 3 wires going to the fan so the speed should be software controllable.
Sapphire's warranty normally covers even cooler replacements; it happened with the X1950PROs when they died cause people didnt cool their digital MOSFETs when installing VF900CUs :laugh:, and what? How does opening your case make you embarassed???
I wouldnt buy that ASUS cause the MOSFETs are bare, However, ASUS did retain all four phases so therefore the MOSFETs shouldnt run warm at all. I remember on the HD3850 they only had two of the four GPU phases intact and therefore the MOSFET heatsink was necessary. How much power usage does a 4850 have anyway?
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by: mandelore;883089Now that is creepy :roll:
hell, if you just want pure cooling performance then go for the quad fan hyper sink edition ^^ :laugh:
by: mandelore;883089I remember seeing such a card made by Gainward. It was a GeForce FX 5950 something. It had fans at odd locations.
hell, if you just want pure cooling performance then go for the quad fan hyper sink edition ^^ :laugh:
I will wait for a RED 1GB model and flash teh bios ftw!
Flash the BIOS with what? Won't these new cards have the 'fixed' BIOS?
Mind you I think the real fix (as opposed to lowering the clock extremely and not gaining much) for that 'advanced power management' might need AMD's 'the power guy' who is supposedly on vacation to return and fix, and one hopes it doesn't need a hardware chip-level fix for the REAL fix. Not that this is a huge issue though.
Incidentally, I can't believe people would actually decide not to buy a card solely based on color, even if you have a windowed system, you can always find ways to fix that yourself if need be.
Mind you I think the real fix (as opposed to lowering the clock extremely and not gaining much) for that 'advanced power management' might need AMD's 'the power guy' who is supposedly on vacation to return and fix, and one hopes it doesn't need a hardware chip-level fix for the REAL fix. Not that this is a huge issue though.
Incidentally, I can't believe people would actually decide not to buy a card solely based on color, even if you have a windowed system, you can always find ways to fix that yourself if need be.
Well, I would take the cooler off and spray paint it because that is one ugly looking graphics card
Bathroom Blue just doesn't invoke the thought of high performance.
Bathroom Blue just doesn't invoke the thought of high performance.
For me it's the red that's present, that shade of red and blue don't mix, if they go for blue then make the fan and text match I would argue.
Of course if you don't like blue then now you can take off the shroud and paint it red or some matching color and it would nicely fit the fan, but it's the combination which makes this in its present form not work.
It's also sort of ironic to make something blue that gets so hot that they put a sticker on it warning you to not touch it, 'burns like liquid nitrogen on the skin' I guess you could market it as :) They should put an image of a glass with liquid nitrogen on it rather than ruby.
Of course if you don't like blue then now you can take off the shroud and paint it red or some matching color and it would nicely fit the fan, but it's the combination which makes this in its present form not work.
It's also sort of ironic to make something blue that gets so hot that they put a sticker on it warning you to not touch it, 'burns like liquid nitrogen on the skin' I guess you could market it as :) They should put an image of a glass with liquid nitrogen on it rather than ruby.
Just in, powercolor has a 2(two)GB 4850 now, with a better cooler to boot! Oh and it's an OC'ed edition too.
http://www.powercolor.com/eng/NewsInfo.asp?id=259
Weird stuff.
http://www.powercolor.com/eng/NewsInfo.asp?id=259
Weird stuff.
I personally love the blue, but I wish they would offer a better shroud/cooler combo. All that does is create a type of vacuum or greenhouse effect with heat. Not much escape room.





