Thursday, October 9th 2008

AMD Responds to Intel's Publication Earlier Today

AMD spokesman reassured today that the deal between AMD and Advanced Technology Investment Company won't violate any of the patent agreements AMD made with its main competitor Intel. Let me remind you that earlier that day Intel said it would review its processor licensing agreement with AMD, especially the agreement which allows AMD to use Intel's x86 chip instruction set, to ensure the ATIC deal does not violate any patent agreements. Phil Hughes, an AMD spokesman, wrote in an e-mail today:
"We are completely confident the structure of this transaction takes into account our cross-license agreements,"
"Rest assured - we plan to continue respecting Intel's intellectual property rights, just as we expect them to respect ours."
Financial analyst Hans Mosesmann even believes that the dispute between the two giants may become a weapon for Intel to solve some of its problems in court. If Intel manages to find something is wrong with this deal it can use it against Advanced Micro Deviced and make AMD drop the long-standing anti-trust suits against the company. Continue reading the full story here.
Source: eWeek
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33 Comments on AMD Responds to Intel's Publication Earlier Today

#1
Morgoth
Fueled by Sapphire
go intel go
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#2
KBD
i think this is heading towards litigation. i hope that AMD's lawyers reviewed everything in detail and made sure nothing was violated before the deal with ATIC was announced.

this is gonna get interesting, like one of those never ending mexican soap operas.
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#3
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
KBDi think this is heading towards litigation. i hope that AMD's lawyers reviewed everything in detail and made sure nothing was violated before the deal with ATIC was announced.

this is gonna get interesting, like one of those never ending mexican soap operas.
Dios mio! The scandal! :laugh:
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#4
a111087
Morgothgo intel go
I think they went as far as they should go, now it time to dig out AMD from dirt :laugh: (hopes for 4Ghz Deneb...)
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#5
KBD
a111087I think they went as far as they should go, now it time to dig out AMD from dirt :laugh: (hopes for 4Ghz Deneb...)
agreed. Intel left AMD far behind in terms of CPU performance, finacial assets and its size. And now that AMD has been extended a lifeline by ATIC Intel starts bitching about the x86 license. They are afraid of AMD, afraid they are gonna pull another Athlon 64 out their hat with the help of this new money. For the sake of competion I say: go AMD go.
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#6
suraswami
Morgothgo intel go
I interpreted 'Die Intel Die' :laugh:
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#7
Morgoth
Fueled by Sapphire
KBDagreed. Intel left AMD far behind in terms of CPU performance, finacial assets and its size. And now that AMD has been extended a lifeline by ATIC Intel starts bitching about the x86 license. They are afraid of AMD, afraid they are gonna pull another Athlon 64 out their hat with the help of this new money. For the sake of competion I say: go AMD go.
assoon amd breaks the agree ment with x86 contract thingy amd wont be anny more in cpu busniss
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#8
KBD
Morgothassoon amd breaks the agree ment with x86 contract thingy amd wont be anny more in cpu busniss
Yes, thats why i said in my first post that i hope their lawyers accounted for everything.
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#9
mdm-adph
Oh no -- they'll make AMD drop the antitrust lawsuits. As if AMD has ever really had more than a prayer's chance of winning. :shadedshu

If that's the worst that happens out of this, AMD'll be fine, in the end -- it sucks that they'll have to drop the cases, but their business is getting a huge injection of capital out of the deal.
Morgothassoon amd breaks the agree ment with x86 contract thingy amd wont be anny more in cpu busniss
Better learn to love that Nehalem system you're building then, because it'll probably be one of the last chips you'll be able to afford. :banghead:
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#10
Millenia
Morgothassoon amd breaks the agree ment with x86 contract thingy amd wont be anny more in cpu busniss
In that case, enjoy your 3000$ cpus, even if you like Intels you'd better hope for a more even situation to keep the prices at bay

And how can you be so sure it breaks Intel's intellectual property? The people at AMD know better than to kill their own company, I'm sure they went over this thing very closely and concluded it'd be fine.
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#11
Morgoth
Fueled by Sapphire
i can still switch to via or ibm or china's cpu that the annacoumented
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#12
Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
Morgothi can still switch to via or ibm or china's cpu that the annacoumented
weak.. ultra sparcs ftw.
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#13
SimFreak47
Next thing you know, you see AMD Celeron, AMD Core Duo, Intel Phenom, and Intel Athlon :laugh:
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#14
KBD
Morgothi can still switch to via or ibm or china's cpu that the annacoumented
they are not serious competitors to Intel. It would have been nice if they were, than we would have more choices. We as consumers need both AMD & Intel to keep prices low and tech to progress.
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#15
mlupple
Down with AMD! They sold their souls to the middle-east! INTEL FTW!
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#16
wiak
mluppleDown with AMD! They sold their souls to the middle-east! INTEL FTW!
lol, i think middle east have more cash than US ever will have :roll:
just look at teh cash crash in us atm

if you like Intel so much, did you even TRY AMD Athlon 64 when it was released? it blew intel out of the water for years!
its still fast if you look at AMD Opteron in a server environment, HyperTransport Scaling ftw
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#17
$ReaPeR$
IMO intel is looking for an excuse to kick AMD out of business..
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#18
SimFreak47
gawd i hope they dont go out of business. >.<

They keep intel's prices somewhat moderate. lol.
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#19
panchoman
Sold my stars!
$ReaPeR$IMO intel is looking for an excuse to kick AMD out of business..
basically it sums it up nicely.. intel is mad at amd for teaming up with APIC, and this is how they are threatening amd, amd responded that they're not doing anything wrong and that intel can F themselves, and now lets what happens.
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#20
$ReaPeR$
i agree but what can we do...hope that AMD planed it well because i would not like to see an intel empire.. we would be sc...... if that happened
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#22
PP Mguire
I think what somebody said earlier is right. AMD is looking for a bailout to make another Intel and Intel is worried about that. So they try sucker punching AMD.
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#23
PCpraiser100
Personally, I think AMD is trying to be posers to see if people will think thrice about Phenom and so forth. AMD's processors suck because of a matter of bribes under the table from Intel to the software developers. If successful, AMD might buy some time to restore the stocks that they deserve, not what they lose for. Nehalem is one thing with eight threads on the run on an applicantion that will commit suicide to support, but a 45nm Phenom spotted being OC'd to 4.1 Ghz on decent cooler with blazing fast memory speeds, thats another thing. Once games finally support tri or quad core processors, believe me, Nehalem will be a dud just like what the Pentium 4 is when the Athlon 64 came along.
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#24
Katanai
PCpraiser100Personally, I think AMD is trying to be posers to see if people will think thrice about Phenom and so forth. AMD's processors suck because of a matter of bribes under the table from Intel to the software developers. If successful, AMD might buy some time to restore the stocks that they deserve, not what they lose for. Nehalem is one thing with eight threads on the run on an applicantion that will commit suicide to support, but a 45nm Phenom spotted being OC'd to 4.1 Ghz on decent cooler with blazing fast memory speeds, thats another thing. Once games finally support tri or quad core processors, believe me, Nehalem will be a dud just like what the Pentium 4 is when the Athlon 64 came along.
O'rly?
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#25
Wile E
Power User
mluppleDown with AMD! They sold their souls to the middle-east! INTEL FTW!
You do know that Intel's top CPU design team is from the middle east, right? They are the ones that gave us the Core and Core2 microarchitectures.
PCpraiser100Personally, I think AMD is trying to be posers to see if people will think thrice about Phenom and so forth. AMD's processors suck because of a matter of bribes under the table from Intel to the software developers. If successful, AMD might buy some time to restore the stocks that they deserve, not what they lose for. Nehalem is one thing with eight threads on the run on an applicantion that will commit suicide to support, but a 45nm Phenom spotted being OC'd to 4.1 Ghz on decent cooler with blazing fast memory speeds, thats another thing. Once games finally support tri or quad core processors, believe me, Nehalem will be a dud just like what the Pentium 4 is when the Athlon 64 came along.
That is about the biggest load of crap I have ever heard spouted off in a news thread. Intel and AMD both use primarily the same instruction sets, and therefore share the same optimizations. Intel can't bribe developers to make their cpus run better, because it would make the AMDs run better too.

As for games: Umm, how about SupCom? It's fully Quad supported, and guess which chip wins?

You should actually do a little research on cpus and how they work before making nonsensical posts like this.
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