Friday, May 8th 2009

Fleets of New AMD Processors Closing in

After launching its 45 nm desktop CPU with its high-end CPUs such as Phenom II X4 940 and 955 Black Edition, AMD is preparing two distinct lines of mainstream and value processors: the energy-efficient line denoted by an "e" next to the model number, and the standard variant. Close to a decade into using the "Athlon" CPU brand name, the company finally chose to place a "II" next to it to denote a generation bump. The Athlon II keeps up with the Phenom II line, to make it slightly easier for consumers to discern which generation the processors belong to. The lower-end variants of the K10.5 "stars" core, that lacks L3 cache will be using this brand-name.

Taking advantage of the 45 nm core, Phenom II 900e series processors will operate in clock-speeds between 2.50 and 2.40 GHz, with complete 6 MB L3 cache. The rated TDP for the chips is 65 W. The triple-core Phenom II X3 700e series processors models 700e and 705e will operate in the same clock-speeds, with the same rated TDP. The Athlon II X4 600e and Athlon II X3 400e series processors in the making, 605e, 600e, 405e, and 400e, operate at speeds between 2.20 and 2.30 GHz. With no L3 cache to address and lower clock-speeds by the notch, the rated TDP is even lower, at 45 W.

Coming to the standard variants, AMD is prepping up its lines of dual-core processors under the Phenom II X2 and Athlon II X2 series. Again, the two are differentiated by the presence of L3 cache on the Phenom II line. Phenom II X2 550 and 545 are clocked at 3.10 GHz and 3.00 GHz respectively. The two come with 512 KB L2 cache per core, plus the full-chunk of L3 cache at 6 MB. These will be the dual-core processors with the highest amount of on-die cache, crossing the Intel Wolfdale-6M (Core 2 Duo E8000 series) chips that carry 6 MB of shared L2 cache. The rated TDP for these chips is 80 W. The Athlon II X2 200 series however, will lack the L3 cache, leaving it with 512 KB L2 cache per core. Models 250, 245, and 240 will be clocked at 3.00 GHz, 2.90 GHz, and 2.80 GHz, respectively. Since it doesn't address an L3 cache, its TDP is significantly lower, at 65 W. Finally, there's the Phenom II X4 925, the 2.80 GHz AM3-socket quad-core chip. Compared to its AM2+ cousin (Phenom II X4 920, TDP 125 W), this chip comes with a lower TDP at 95 W.

Source: TechConnect Magazine 1, 2
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48 Comments on Fleets of New AMD Processors Closing in

#1
Studabaker
Nice, I'd like to see the prices on those 500s!
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#2
tzitzibp
there are some interesting prospects arising from this... this might be a good time to consider an AMD build!

Thanks for the info!
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#3
wiak
those 45W chips will be instant hits for htpc builders!
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#4
eidairaman1
they are trying to move ahead and put the 65nm in the past by phasing them out.
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#5
Cheeseball
I'd like one of those Phenom II X2s. :)
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#6
icon1
this time i'll go AMD when i build my HTPC.. those 45W chips from AMD is very tempting :)
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#7
Paintface
also looking at those new 45w chips for a HTPC, but i would prefer a higher clocked dual core compared to the 2.2ghz tripple core....

anyone know if there will be athlon II 45w ? with about 2.6ghz?
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#8
Studabaker
by: Paintface
anyone know if there will be athlon II 45w ? with about 2.6ghz?
yeah, check the images posted, but they're quad cores, the DUAL core ones run at 65w :wtf:
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#9
Melvis
X2 545 or 550 is what ill be looking closer at ;)
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#10
Studabaker
by: Melvis
X2 545 or 550 is what ill be looking closer at ;)
:rockout: that makes 3 of us so far. i recon those procs will deliver amazing gaming performance.
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#11
mdm-adph
Gotta admit, a 2.5GHz X4 running at 65W would be pretty nice, if the price is right.
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#12
DrunkenMafia
45watt quads..... one of those is going straight into my htpc.......

Oh wait it can't because there are no AM3 matx board out yet :banghead:
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#13
Hayder_Master
many cpu's , i see some of them not necessary and it got low sells , but i expect new names
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#14
mamisano
by: DrunkenMafia
45watt quads..... one of those is going straight into my htpc.......

Oh wait it can't because there are no AM3 matx board out yet :banghead:
I thought you could use an AM3 chip in an AM2+ motherboard? AM3 is supposed to be backwards compatible and fully support DDR2 in addition to DDR3.

I would love to swap in one of the new 45w X3 or X4 CPUs to replace the 4850e in my HTPC.
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#15
PCpraiser100
I don't blame you on a new name, Phenom is starting to become a questionable name for AMD's quads compared to Intel. If the have trouble renaming, just call it Phenom E-series thats good enough.
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#17
AlCabone
The funny thing is all of these chips are essentially the same with different FID limits, and some cores, some parts of the cache disabled.
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#18
JrRacinFan
Served 5k and counting ...
I bet one of those Athlon 2XX chips would be mad crazy paired with a 780G for an HTPC setup. Huge thanks for posting this BTA!
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#19
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
Very nice, I'm interested to see what removing the L3 does to performance.
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#20
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
i'm getting a 550 on release date and it better be a black edition
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#21
Breathless
meh.... :shadedshu

WHERE IS THE INTEL KILLER!

This is where I think AMD needs to focus some efforts. Make a chip that crushes any current chip that Intel has out. Come on AMD, time for a revival. Quit making so many "meh" mid range chips and put out a monster that would make intel scramble. :nutkick:
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#22
suraswami
by: Breathless
meh.... :shadedshu

WHERE IS THE INTEL KILLER!

This is where I think AMD needs to focus some efforts. Make a chip that crushes any current chip that Intel has out. Come on AMD, time for a revival. Quit making so many "meh" mid range chips and put out a monster that would make intel scramble. :nutkick:
Its coming just be patient:D.

Ok somebody please clear this for me,

Are these new chips AM2+ compatible? Do they have DDR2 mem controller or stictly DDR3 controller?

thanks bta for posting.

:toast:
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#24
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
by: suraswami
Its coming just be patient:D.

Ok somebody please clear this for me,

Are these new chips AM2+ compatible? Do they have DDR2 mem controller or stictly DDR3 controller?

thanks bta for posting.

:toast:
Thats a good question, I always thought that all AM3 processors would be AM2+ compatible, but AM2+ processors would not be AM3 compatible.

I believe AMD made sure of this by removing a pin on the AM3 socket/Processors, so that you could still put an AM3 processor in an AM2+ socket, but you couldn't put an AM2+ processor in an AM3 socket(due to the extra pin).

by: TheMailMan78
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb61/TheMailMan78/ET2.jpg
I've been really temped to photoshop that picture and change it to:

AMD: We actually expect you to believe not having better techology is a good thing.

That comment by AMD really was laughable, it made me crack up actually. It's like the idiots at the drag strip that claim real men don't use power adders, then get left at the starting line every pass...:laugh:
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#25
TheMailMan78
Banstick Dummy
by: newtekie1
Thats a good question, I always thought that all AM3 processors would be AM2+ compatible, but AM2+ processors would not be AM3 compatible.

I believe AMD made sure of this by removing a pin on the AM3 socket/Processors, so that you could still put an AM3 processor in an AM2+ socket, but you couldn't put an AM2+ processor in an AM3 socket(due to the extra pin).
This is correct. My board is an AM2+ board that can run an AM3 CPU. However an AM3 board cannot run a AM2+ processor. The only real difference in the AM3 board supports DDR3 where the AM2+ only supports DDR2. If they removed the memory controller from the CPU like Intel this wouldn't even be an issue.
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