Thursday, July 23rd 2009

Intel Appeals Against EU Antitrust Verdict

Earlier this year in May, the European Commission for anti-competitive practices found Intel guilty of various antitrust practices. The company was then slapped with a massive 1.06 billion Euro (US $1.45 billion) fine, the single largest antitrust fine it has ever meted out to a company. On Wednesday, Intel explored its legal option of appealing against the fine with Court of First Instance in Luxembourg, Europe's second highest judicial body. The company argues that the EC regulator failed to consider the evidence that supported Intel's contention during the trial.

In a telephone interview with ComputerWorld, Robert Manetta, an Intel spokesperson said "We believe the Commission misinterpreted some evidence and ignored other pieces of evidence." Meanwhile, apart from the fine Intel is expected to pay within three months of the verdict, the ruling also puts a stop to Intel's rebates to PC manufacturers and retailers on condition of near or total exclusivity, among several other deemed malpractices. Authorities in South Korea and Japan found similar irregularities in Intel's marketing methods, while the U.S. Federal Trade Commission and New York Attorney General's office are investigating the company for abuse of its monopoly position.Source: ComputerWorld
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307 Comments on Intel Appeals Against EU Antitrust Verdict

#1
AltecV1
i hope the fine will stay! intel need to be punished:mad:
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#2
erocker
Fight corrupt, greedy, and ignorant governments! Yay! If the fine does go through who do you think will pay for it? Intel's customers. Prices will go up. I would love to see Intel just pull out selling anything in the EU all together. They would probablly save money in the end by not selling to greedy, money hungry countries. It's sad the US is becoming one of them. At least India is getting it right.
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#3
Easo
Admit! You Did All That Shiz!!! Pay Now And Stfu!!!
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#4
suraswami
can the fine be increased to 1.06 trillion Euros to make them shut up:mad:
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#5
mtosev
lets see what Intel can do about this. :D
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#6
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
like intel was somehow prohibiting amd from actually making better processors...no im not an intel fanboy, im a capitalism fanboy :laugh:
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mdm-adph
by: erocker
Fight corrupt, greedy, and ignorant governments! Yay! If the fine does go through who do you think will pay for it? Intel's customers. Prices will go up. I would love to see Intel just pull out selling anything in the EU all together. They would probablly save money in the end by not selling to socialist, money hungry countries. It's sad the US is becoming one of them. At least India is getting it right.
If I didn't know you better, I'd say that post was a troll. :laugh:

I'll begin:

1) Intel isn't going to pull out of Europe, regardless of how much they're fined. You should know that.

2) Intel can appeal all they want -- the world's in a recession. The fine's going to stay.

3) Intel doesn't need a reason to raise prices.
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#8
ZoneDymo
mdm-adph


How funny would it be if they did gave this as a reason for prices going up? XD
"Yeah we did stuff that is against the law, they caught us and gave us a fine, so now we ask more money to compensate for the money we lost doing stuff agains the law"
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btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: ZoneDymo
mdm-adph


How funny would it be if they did gave this as a reason for prices going up? XD
"Yeah we did stuff that is against the law, they caught us and gave us a fine, so now we ask more money to compensate for the money we lost doing stuff agains the law"
If they increase prices of their current chips, it's their funeral. AMD has a decent CPU lineup which will bite them in the back with their low prices.
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#10
erocker
by: mdm-adph
If I didn't know you better, I'd say that post was a troll. :laugh:

I'll begin:

1) Intel isn't going to pull out of Europe, regardless of how much they're fined. You should know that.

2) Intel can appeal all they want -- the world's in a recession. The fine's going to stay.

3) Intel doesn't need a reason to raise prices.
Only a troll if you disagree I guess. But that would make you a troll too then. Having a different opinion does not constitute being a troll, thank you though, I completely agree on number 3. Really I see no difference between some government and a corporation, they are both ruled by greed and make their money off of ignorance.
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$ReaPeR$
by: erocker
Only a troll if you disagree I guess. But that would make you a troll too then. Having a different opinion does not constitute being a troll, thank you though, I completely agree on number 3. Really I see no difference between some government and a corporation, they are both ruled by greed.
i agree but nevertheless they need to be checked by us
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#12
DaedalusHelios
by: erocker
Fight corrupt, greedy, and ignorant governments! Yay! If the fine does go through who do you think will pay for it? Intel's customers. Prices will go up. I would love to see Intel just pull out selling anything in the EU all together. They would probablly save money in the end by not selling to socialist, money hungry countries. It's sad the US is becoming one of them. At least India is getting it right.
We spend more on the US military than the top 10 healthcare systems in the world combined.

Socialist policies are everywhere in the US as it always has been. You are just persuaded by old propaganda like many in the USA who have failed to do the research.

Current Socialist organizations that have been around for ages:
All public schools, Military, and Police etc.

NHS works fine in other countries so why would the people in the USA be too ignorant to be able to accomplish it. The money is there.... we can fork over any amount of money to destroy life but we are always insisting we don't have the money to take care of the sick and wounded.

Anything government run and not for profit, for the benefit of the people, is a socialist policy. Everybody should be required to learn about politics and finance in school and we won't have this problem.

Its all about money. If the USA had a NHS the many hospitals and doctors would make just a little less while we would make sure the number one growing reason for bankruptsy would completely disappear(healthcare expenses).


Would it mean lower quality care? No. France has the most heavily socialized healthcare system and its always rated the best in every way for many years.

Longer healthier lives are worth more than having enough armaments to destroy the entire world right? If we would take half of the funding we put into killing people better, and put it into taking care of the population we are supposedly protecting. Then we would still have the most powerful military in the world by far. Just look at the statistics and you will find its true.

And still we scream socialism in fear of what we do not understand. Maybe one day the USA will care more about its own people than killing people in other countries for the financial gain of the few.

BTW Intel should not be fined in any way. Its not socialism attacking Intel for money. Its the "EU world government" trying to steal from a productive US company because it wants money to throw around. I believe the EU should be disbanded for taking away rights and adding regulation that takes away attention from much more pressing matters in Europe.
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#13
a111087
by: erocker
Fight corrupt, greedy, and ignorant governments! Yay! If the fine does go through who do you think will pay for it? Intel's customers. Prices will go up. I would love to see Intel just pull out selling anything in the EU all together. They would probablly save money in the end by not selling to socialist, money hungry countries. It's sad the US is becoming one of them. At least India is getting it right.
lol, i don't think so. by setting higher prices, Intel will loose customers accordingly, making it less competitive and ... well, they will earn about as much money as with normal prices. its a basic economy theory where the number of customers will depend on the amount they have to pay for the product. cpu's are also not a gasoline, which we are forced to buy because we need to travel a lot and bike will simply not do. when it comes to CPU's, AMD is right there waiting for you eagerly.
Also, Intel will not really feel any different after paying this fee, for us it may sound a lot, but for them it's not. but u know how greed works... yet, i'm not saying that intel should be fined or any other way around, because i don't think we know all the details to really judge this case. and i really don't understand why u people sit here and act as if u know everything that was going on there. yes, u know some sketchy details from articles, but if u think thats enough for u to make a definitive decision on ur part, then i'm truly sorry for u

a bit off topic, but u r asked for it :) In my view, Obama is not a socialist, like someone already said, he doesn't even act like liberal. catching phrases from TV is the fashion lately, and i understand that, but sometimes u just need to stop and think for yourself. no offense to anyone.
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#14
erocker
by: DaedalusHelios
We spend more on the US military than the top 10 healthcare systems in the world.

Socialist policies are everywhere in the US as it always has been. You are just persuaded by old propaganda like many in the USA who have failed to do the research.

Current Socialist organizations that have been around for ages:
All public schools, Military, and Police etc.

NHS works fine in other countries so why would the people in the USA be too ignorant to be able to accomplish it. The money is there.... we can fork over any amount of money to destroy life but we are always insisting we don't have the money to take care of the sick and wounded.

Anything government run and not for profit, for the benefit of the people, is a socialist policy. Everybody should be required to learn about politics and finance in school and we won't have this problem.

Its all about money. If the USA had a NHS the many hospitals and doctors would make just a little less while we would make sure the number one growing reason for bankruptsy would completely disappear(healthcare expenses).


Would it mean lower quality care? No. France has the most heavily socialized healthcare system and its always rated the best in every way for many years.

Longer healthier lives are worth more than having enough armaments to destroy the entire world right? If we would take half of the funding we put into killing people better, and put it into taking care of the population we are supposedly protecting. Then we would still have the most powerful military in the world by far. Just look at the statistics and you will find its true.

And still we scream socialism in fear of what we do not understand. Maybe one day the USA will care more about its own people than killing people in other countries for the financial gain of the few.

BTW Intel should not be fined in any way. Its not socialism attacking Intel for money. Its the "EU world government" trying to steal from a productive US company because it wants money to throw around. I believe the EU should be disbanded for taking away rights and adding regulation that takes away attention from much more pressing matters in Europe.
Puhlease. I know all about Socialism. I come from a city that is Socialist. Up until the McCarthy hoo-ha era many local politicians ran as Socialist. My parents are/were Socialist and their parents. I believe in Socialism on a local level. That being said, I didn't have a single comment about socialism in my posts, I was talking about greed. THAT being said, I find your post spot-on! :toast:

***Lol, Just realized I did use the words "Socialist, money hungry countries". My bad. All countries are money hungry regardless of political affiliation.
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#15
DaedalusHelios
Oh, I didn't know you meant something else with what you said. Sorry about that. ;)
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#16

They best not pull out of the EU market, the thought of becoming an AMD only patch of world makes me shudder.

*edit* Im not being an intel fanboy when I say that or anything, just the thought of a one brand market seems pathetic. No competition on prices, no variety in systems, etc etc.
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#17
AltecV1
i hate when fanboys start a war:shadedshu European Union is only doing its job to protect consumers and other companies from monopolic companies like intel!!:mad:
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#18

So youd rather have a market dominated by one ultimate brand? No competition over prices, so ultimately they can charge whatever they damn please?

Dont call me a fanboy, I clearly explained my reason behind posting such a comment.
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DaedalusHelios
by: AltecV1
i hate when fanboys start a war:shadedshu European Union is only doing its job to protect consumers and other companies from monopolic companies like intel!!:mad:
Nah, the EU should protect the mighty VIA from monopolistic companies like AMD and Intel! :roll:
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mdm-adph
by: erocker
Only a troll if you disagree I guess. But that would make you a troll too then. Having a different opinion does not constitute being a troll, thank you though, I completely agree on number 3. Really I see no difference between some government and a corporation, they are both ruled by greed and make their money off of ignorance.
Well, like you realized in a later post, the only reason I said your post looked like a troll is because you brought up "socialism" in a story that had nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with plain old money. :D

by: btarunr
If they increase prices of their current chips, it's their funeral. AMD has a decent CPU lineup which will bite them in the back with their low prices.
But AMD can't meet the demand, which is what started this whole business in the first place. :shadedshu

Intel knows that it's got people by the balls, and that's what enabled them to make the shady deals excluding AMD from the market in the first place.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the price of Intel's chips went up soon.
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#21
AltecV1
by: kyle2020
So youd rather have a market dominated by one ultimate brand? No competition over prices, so ultimately they can charge whatever they damn please?

Dont call me a fanboy, I clearly explained my reason behind posting such a comment.
read it to the end and then start commenting,because you got no idea what i wrote:laugh:(PS: im laughing because you ignorance is amusing me)
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#22
erocker
by: AltecV1
read it to the end and then start commenting,because you got no idea what i wrote:laugh:(PS: im laughing because you ignorance is amusing me)
I'm uncertain if it's just because of the language barrier but I don't see anyone being a "fanboy". Also, keep your comments directed at the topic, not at other members.
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#23
DaedalusHelios
by: AltecV1
read it to the end and then start commenting,because you got no idea what i wrote:laugh:(PS: im laughing because you ignorance is amusing me)
Come on man. You are just insulting him. Please try to be more civil.

If you like AMD more than Intel I am sure you have your reasons. But there is no reason to get offensive.
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#24
mdm-adph
by: DaedalusHelios
Come on man. You are just insulting him. Please try to be more civil.

If you like AMD more than Intel I am sure you have your reasons. But there is no reason to get offensive.
You know what's funny? I have the utmost respect for Intel's designers, engineers, hell -- even their marketers.

I have nothing but scorn for their lawyers, upper management, and accountants.
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#25
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
intel cannot be blamed for the woes of AMD. when AMD bought ATI the shit truly hit the fan. it had to be the most disorganized unifcation of organizations ever. amd lacks a strong marketing strategy as well. if they want to sell more chips they have to create demand for them!
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