i want to buy the 5850 to wait or not?!

[F430]

in israel the 5850 cost 340 dollars

 

[freesoul27]

the cheapest 5850 cost in israel 1380 shekel (360$) some stores sell it for 1450-1650 shekel(380$-430$)

 

[DaedalusHelios]

i have no problem with buying nvidia stuff, some things are quite nice, but who outs himself as nvidia fanboy, now, has to be completly silly. they simply FUCKED their chip. no gt300 for christmas,do you get it? they are too dumb,and too addicted to money to achieve even 10% yield!!!
if they out it, propably on march next year, it will cost a small fortune. more than 2 5850 in crossfire. dont float the green boat. they are sinking.

just my 2cents

EDIT: just, please stop the fanboying. nvidias new product ist not worth the good words until we see a working prototype.

Sorry but anybody talking about yields is obviously "drinking the cool aid". Yield is all about the fab and not Nvidia. Nvidia is not having problems with yields unless you believe the fabricated stories by guys that just lie. Seriously get a better source. Or start wearing tin foil helmets.

Why do they lie? Because people like you will just believe them and never question its validity. Even W1zzard said any talk of yields is BS.

 

[Velvet Wafer]

bigger die=lesser yield? doesnt seem so difficult for me...

anyways... i believe this person, because i have eyes ;-)
start to to fanboi here, when the real fermi is ready. until then (probably march) i will have fun with my 5850,maybe 2

 

[W1zzard]

bigger die=lesser yield? doesnt seem so difficult for me...

take a piece of paper. use a marker to put 5 dots (= silicon defects) on it. now cut the paper into 10 pieces, whats your yield % ?

now use another paper, put 5 dots too and cut it into 50 pieces, whats the yield % now ?

 

[Velvet Wafer]

uhm, i havent done it, but i believe the size of the dot matters... and if the dots are spreaded or concetrated on one small area.... im not that microchip genius, it just sounded logical
tho its a fact, that nvidia lovers probably face a sad christmas due to what fact ever, maybe nvidia just has lost their fortune,maybe they just bluff, and have the real fermi in the backhand. the only thing i know now is: it wont be cheap

 

[W1zzard]

it was just a simple example to illustrate why smaller die = better yields (afaik in all statistical models, feel free to math me wrong).

excellent summary read: http://www.siliconfareast.com/test-yield-models.htm

 

[Velvet Wafer]

thats absolutely the cause i meant. and it saves ati/amd a lot of money,am i right?

 

[shevanel]

2 months ago I bought a new GTX 275 for $50 less than the price of a 5850.

slower. no dx 11. no eyefinity. hotter. louder. no hdmi.

what else?

.

 

[Gabkicks]

i ordered a 5850 today from amazon, but it says it's not shipping till the 13th

 

[TheLaughingMan]

2 months ago I bought a new GTX 275 for $50 less than the price of a 5850.

slower. no dx 11. no eyefinity. hotter. louder. no hdmi.

what else?

.

The GTX series does do HDMI through the adapter provided witht he card and the SPDIF cable for pass through audio.

 

[shevanel]

But is it the completely the same?

I have never owned an ATI card in my life. But I'm sold on the 5850 and I'll be picking up one for an msi platinum x58 sli as soon as newegg has them in stock.

then after the years end I'll be getting another one when the prices go down, or if they release a 5890 with an increased bus. who knows.. but the 5850 seems like a best buy right now. Looking forward to new eye candy with DX11 soon.

 

[kylzer]

Look at the power RAWR

 

[shevanel]

a beast.

 

[jaredpace]

sapphire 5850 is instock at newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...10380048 106793261&name=Radeon HD 5000 series

 

[F430]

what about a cf of 5770?! its killair of 5870 and cheap

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

go buy it lol and be happy

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102857

there ya go its in stock for the time being

lol jared beat me but thats okay

 

[shevanel]

ive heard mixed opinions of sapphire cards. anyone have something positive to say about previously owned sapphire products?

 

[W1zzard]

all reference design cards available right now are made in the same factory, just the sticker is of different quality

 

[Zubasa]

all reference design cards available right now are made in the same factory, just the sticker is of different quality

Like that MSI sticker?

 

[F430]

what about a cf of 5770?! its killair of 5870 and he cheap?, the 5850 is a good oc? like my old 2900pro?

 

[Zubasa]

what about a cf of 5770?! its killair of 5870 and he cheap?, the 5850 is a good oc? like my old 2900pro?

Cheap? Yes!
Killer of 5870? By far no. Crossfire is a good upgrade path, but it isn't worth the mess if you want 5870 performance.
The 5770s are 128-bit after all, and the bandwidth are exclusive to each card. 128-bit *2 is not 256-bit.
So at higher resolutions, 5770CF will perform closer to the 5850.

The HD5k series are better at OC overall compare to the 4ks.
The HD 5800s have volttera vrm which allows voltage control.

 

[kylzer]

ive heard mixed opinions of sapphire cards. anyone have something positive to say about previously owned sapphire products?

All my ATI cards have been sapphire and have all been decent and solid products.

 

[F430]

voltage control built on the video card? the 4870 dont successful oc

 

[trt740]

all reference design cards available right now are made in the same factory, just the sticker is of different quality

but don't remove one or MSI voids your warranty