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AMD Radeon HD 7000 Series to be PCI-Express 3.0 Compliant

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Jul 18, 2011.

  1. seronx

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    It won't
    but will the GPU cards perform better?

    Yes

    How and where it will perform better we will find out
     
  2. theoneandonlymrk

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    i swear you's are all noobs,people were bemoanin me yesterday sugesting i didnt need pciex 3 now yall on bout it, catch up!:D

    now the question ive asked 3 times on TPU, does anyone know if the 990 AMD chipset is compatible?????:confused:

    fair enuff ya dont know
     
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    WTF! are they joking? How the release cards bottlenicked by them motherboards and work with intel chipsets‏!‏
     
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    It isn't at the moment. Maybe in future boards.

    I'm still saying that you don't need it though.
     
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    well it runs fine with my x58 motherboard so i prefer it aswell

    ye there is that and as my name suggests i like emulators ,and some are supposed to work better with dx 10/11 namely pcsx2 , so i'll upgrade sometime ,
    just that i feel pushed into it by all the win 7 lovers :p and by the manufacturers ,

    i looked the other week for drivers for the latest ati graphics card i was thinking of getting, and they were vista/7 only :eek::twitch::cry:
     
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    The new unified shader architecture allowed immense performance improvements in DX9 gaming. DX11 cards did not offer quite the same. Slight difference, but I do enjoy nitpicking.
     
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    http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/chipsets/9-series-integrated/Pages/amd-990fx-chipset.aspx
    http://www.amd.com/US/PRODUCTS/DESKTOP/CHIPSETS/9-SERIES-INTEGRATED/Pages/amd-990x-chipset.aspx
    http://www.amd.com/US/PRODUCTS/DESKTOP/CHIPSETS/9-SERIES-INTEGRATED/Pages/amd-970-chipset.aspx

    Nope
     
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    Opps ... stupid slow internet. Carry on.
     
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    AMD 7000HD GPUs


    PCI Express 3.0

    8b/10b Encoding to 128b/130b encoding
    8 bits + 2 syncs bits to 128 bits + 2 sync bits
    20% Overhead to 1.54% Overhead
    4Gbps to 8Gbps(7.88Gbps actual)
    5GT/s to 8GT/s

    PCI-e links are for CPU<-->GPU talk
    and GPU0 <---> GPU1 talk
    but the SLI/CrossfireX bridges help with that but with every speed boost the need of those bridges vanish making it cheaper to make the gpus
    (How cheaper, I wouldn't know)

    The internet never forgets HA HA!
     
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    Is it just me, or is everyone instantly reminded of the Radeon 7000VE and 7500 when they see this thread?
     
  11. eidairaman1

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    Ok Windows 7 is not Vista SP3, it is separate code done by a different team at MS. The gui might share alot with vista but compatibility and driver support and overall boot up and shut down speed are even faster than XP was.


    N Ya those boards are still made to this day
     
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    Any news on the 7000 series yet? 2000 shaders?
     
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    The idea is, We dunna know

    But if it follows progression we will get 2000ish shaders

    edit: going to find easier pictures
     
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    It is just Vista Second Edition. It's only NT 6.1 and the differences are about the same that were between the 98's.
     
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    6GB of GDDR5? What for? 2 is PLENTY
     
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    Ray tracing, MLAA 2.0, WDDM 2.0

    Future proofing

    The SIMD Unit has 16 ALUs
    A Compute Core has 64 ALUs
    A Compute Array has 256 ALUs
    The max possible compute arrays are 32
    32x256 = 8192 ALUs

    edit: I dunna know about GPUs forgiveh meh

    ALUs = Shaders in GCN
     
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    Always make me laugh...it should be "the next few months proofing"

    Is there such a thing these days..
     
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    its far from Vista-Reliability, compatibility, speed Are whats In 7 Vista was sluggish, in compatible with several applications that claimed to be compatible and it tends to freeze up alot.

    Far from 98 and 98 SE

    ME, Vista both MS biggest mistakes.
     
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    Windows 7 is everything Windows Vista wanted to be, but wasn't. Even Vista after a SP or two was far from bad. The problem was that Vista was a huge re-write of Windows (mostly under-the-hood stuff), and came with a lot of overhead, and the average hardware wasn't up to the task. I remember a similar situation when XP came out, but it didn't last nearly as long. My Q6600\4GB RAM setup had no issues with Vista Ultimate x64.

    My current computer runs Windows 7 better than any computer I had in the past ran XP, and at this point I could never imagine going back.

    As for the actual topic at hand, I remain doubtful that there are any cards that are actually bottlenecking in PCIe because of a lack of bandwidth, especially since going from 16x -> 8x is only like a 1-3% performance drop. This is just a feature for AMD to tack onto the list to try and sell more cards.
     
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    +1 ATI. :rockout:

    And everyone thought I was insane when I kept on banging on the pci-e 3.0 8x and pci-e 2.0 bottlenecks for gpu makers. Maybe I am maybe not :toast:

    Image where this can go now with all this PCI-Express 3.0 x16 would have 32 GB/s (256 Gbps) freedom.
     
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    Since the PCI-e 3.0 is going to be mostly for people who can buy it, they might as well buy a PCI-e 3.0 gpu

    PCI-e Express 3.0 x8(when all slots are used)

    All GPUs will get 126.1Gbps(15.8GB/s) on PCI Express 2.0 8x 53.3Gbps(6.6GB/s) a significant boost(Yes, PCI-Express 3.0 8x is 18.46% faster than PCI-Express 2.0 16x)
    And PCI-E 3.0 16x is 18.46% faster than PCI-Express 2.0 32x

    Intel chipsets that support PCI-e 3.0 are
    3x8

    No word on any AMD Chipsets supporting PCI-e 3.0
     
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    I'm still using Vista and I didn't do a fresh install since 3 years now, because its running too well to justify the hassle and not it's not running bad enough to justify upgrading to seven.

    Service packs, tons of megabytes of updates, and some care, did the trick. It is solid. It only has a slow startup. That's all I can complain.
     
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    Name a couple (other than TRIM support for SSDs which really shouldn't be OS-dependent and obviously affects only users with SSDs) ?

    They are going to stop providing security updates in April 2014, as per their latest announcement.
     
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    Um, DX11, WDM 1.1 (which makes for more stable drivers), support for more than 3GB of RAM, decent 64-bit support. The list goes on.
     
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    Good God! :eek:

    I haven't even got my hands on an HD5000 series and now here come the HD7000.

    It is sad to be left out in the dust. :(
     

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