Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by Fitseries3, Jul 8, 2008.
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Mine says it gets down to -62 on full load(I think that it is lying and it is around -40-50c). With that I over heat on a quad at 1.7v and over.
The colder the better.
I would think about making a cascade if you think you could make it happen.
honestly... now that i've dove into it.... i dont see how it's possible for anyone to profit off of making phases/cascades to sell. the parts are SOOOO expensive if bought new that the final cost would be well into the $1000+ range for one that cooled exceptionally well.
first off who called you a dummy?
secondly why do you get so defensive/offensive toward's my post's? i was merely linking you to that so that it could help to inform you on your build as building a phase is different than cooling a house because you are dealing with a specific heat load.
if i had your attitude i would/should be designing car's for all the auto manufacturer's because i have my A license and almost 15yrs experience
i got's no beef with you bud, i'd love to see this build a total success.
we need more of these type's of thing's here on TPU!
i wasnt trying to be mean. i guess you and i just have a clash of personalities. we seem to have this misunderstanding in every thread lately. sorry if i sound offended. i feel as though that several other people are doubting if i can do this build or not.
i am currently trying to get a hold of a condenser for this build but the only place that im aware of at the moment that sells small condensers is undertheice and they charge 2x-3x what parts really cost so i definatly don't want to break the bank buying overpriced stuff from them.
and for the Good TEC Setup.... it would cost more then im shooting for budget wise on this project. the key is affordable to more average people, not just people that have tons of money or don't have the patients to build something themselves. i realize that not many people have the knowledge or experience to do this sorta build, but there are a few people that could learn form this and look into trying something new. i feel that i need to experiment with everything i can get my hands on and learn everything i can. i have had nvidia and ati cards, intel, nvidia, ati, amd, via, sis chipset boards, intel and amd processors, all types and brands of air, water, and TEC coolers, you name it i have played with it. i am like any other addict... i simply can never be happy with what i have and i am always seeking something new. this is far from my last frontier. i am hoping to have this phase project done in time for my bloomefield rig later this year.
i would try PM'ing some of the builder's @ Xs and see if they could be of any assistance.
asking for help is never a bad thing
i don't doubt you're abilities or anyone else's for that matter
i prefer this design i made it in CAD myself and i'm going to machine them during the school year
I didn't think you were that crazy - until I saw that
honestly i dont think r134 is going to hold load at the temps you want. mabye it will, but personally i doubt it. i would go with r505.
eh... i've got a few different refrigerants to try.
thats what i wanted to hear!
im sure this build will go great
my last pm linked a small enough condenser for building a phase
the reason i want to try r134a is... again... to keep the cost down by using common materials that can be found at your local stores.
(zen.. that condenser is great. thanks)
well, its worth a shot at the very least
teyber via PM on XS...
looks like i'll be getting one from him since cost is a major issue on this build. the rest i will build myself. i already have a condenser coming and i have the lines, accumulator, and a fresh R507 tank ready to use. looks like it's gonna start coming together here in the next week or so.
That is awesome Fit's. I'm going to keep an eye on this thread!
r134a is a more lets say resilient coolant, with r404a and r505 getting better temps on idle, the r134 will hold upp better under a higher watt load. I converted my vapochill classic into an xtreme by going to r404a but ended up going back to a classic when I found out I couldn't clock as far. so at 3.8GHZ on r404a I was at -15c load which is nice, but on r134z I can hit 4GHZ at -5c. which the r404a wouldn't do. (granted that the condenser/pump will definetly make a difference and the vapochill classic has a weak one so fits results will defiently be different)
so coolant is more of a balancing act some go for super cool idle temps others want the load temp performance.
just saw you're going for 507, should work out, you're system is newer and will likely do better on the newer coolants. Still keep an eye on the load temps. I'd be interested to see what a condenser/pump overhaul would do for my classic.
next thing you need is a load tester. are you going to build one or just use the cpu?
i gotta see how this turns out.
werd. that is the better way to do it anyways.
im assuming a piece of plywood will be the case? thats how i would do it
nope. i work at a machine shop. it'll be all metal.
dont you have alike a 6ft tank of LN2?
How well would R12 work?
yes i still have the LN2 but i dont feel like messing with it right now.
R12.... if you've got some would work great. i dont know how it compares to the others though. i haven't had any to try yet. i have r22 though.
You should still be able to get R12 since basically R134a is what replaced it in automobiles, and there's plenty of cars that still use it. It is quite expensive though. R134a is supposedly "safer" for the environment, however R12 works a lot better. I don't know is it would make much of a difference in a phase unit though.
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