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Looking for a reliable hardware-based RAID 5 enclosure under $200

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I don't care about speed. I do care about redundancy. I also care about convenience.

I know RAID5 is not a replacement for backups. However, it is better than nothing. When you have 20+ TB of data that is growing every day, having a complete duplicate of all this gets really expensive.

I was thinking that if I RAID5'd it then at least I have redundancy for a minimal extra cost (25% more cost instead of 100% more for double the disks).

Of course, if two drives fail on a 4 drive RAID5 then I don't lose just half of the data (if they were just a bunch of disks not RAIDed then you would lose only half because you still have two working drives), but instead because of the RAID you would experience total irreversible catastrophic data loss. So that's a concern.


Here's my situation:
About 4tb of my 20TB is irreplaceable. The remaining is recoverable, but of course doing so would be am immense project. I don't have a ton of money to go buy uber expensive $1000+ boxes just to RAID my drives, and I also don't have the money to buy double the disks for zero increase in storage space (to be used only as backup drives). The latter would be ideal, if money was no limitation. But alas, money is a limitation. Speed doesn't matter at all to me as most of the data is rarely accessed, things like backups of websites and projects and videos that are now on youtube, etc. But the data is still important. I just don't access it all that much.


What do you suggest? Is RAID5 the right way to go with this?
If so, then what is the best affordable (under $200) RAID enclosure that can hold at least 4 or 5 4TB+ drives?
Or, if not, what do you suggest to do? I am open to ideas and opinions on what to do as long as you know what you're talking about.

UPDATE: I would also be open to some sort of controller card since I have room inside my PC for many drives. I just don't know anything about controller cards which is why I was hoping an enclosure would make it all easier.
 
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I know RAID5 is not a replacement for backups. However, it is better than nothing. When you have 20+ TB of data that is growing every day, having a complete duplicate of all this gets really expensive.
Oh really? 20TB+ of data that's still growing? I smell shenanigans.

If for some reason you're serious, an external RAID enclosure may not be enough for your needs depending on how many drives you're planning have having in RAID. I take it you have the drives already setup in some kind of configuration to store your data as it stands right now? You need to get *all* of your data off the drives that are to be used as RAID in order to setup RAID and initialize.
 
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Oh really? 20TB+ of data that's still growing? I smell shenanigans.

If for some reason you're serious, an external RAID enclosure may not be enough for your needs depending on how many drives you're planning have having in RAID. I take it you have the drives already setup in some kind of configuration to store your data as it stands right now? You need to get *all* of your data off the drives that are to be used as RAID in order to setup RAID and initialize.

??? Why would I make that up??? Of course I am serious. Else why would I be asking the question???

And no I do not have any configuration right now, they are just separate drives.
 

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The terrible reviews, assuming you are talking about the ones on newegg, are all controller related. One says the ports went bad, but I've been using two of these plugged into one card for just about a year now and not had any issues. The other bad review is because of the controller causing the controller to hang on a computer restart. And this is a known issue with Highpoint cards, and they have a easy to apply work around, and it rarely affects people. I had it happen to one out of the 5 machines I tested it on. If you run into the issues you just flash the firmware with the /c command switch to configure the firmware before it is flashed and then you disable the INT13 and Reallocate EBDA options in the firmware.

But really, they are good enclosures. The fan keeps the drives cool, the drive trays are basic but work well. I will say the power button on the front is a little cheap feeling(so I do agree with that one review that mentions that). But since I'm not turning them on and off that often it doesn't bother me.
 
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The terrible reviews, assuming you are talking about the ones on newegg, are all controller related. One says the ports went bad, but I've been using two of these plugged into one card for just about a year now and not had any issues. The other bad review is because of the controller causing the controller to hang on a computer restart. And this is a known issue with Highpoint cards, and they have a easy to apply work around, and it rarely affects people. I had it happen to one out of the 5 machines I tested it on. If you run into the issues you just flash the firmware with the /c command switch to configure the firmware before it is flashed and then you disable the INT13 and Reallocate EBDA options in the firmware.

But really, they are good enclosures. The fan keeps the drives cool, the drive trays are basic but work well. I will say the power button on the front is a little cheap feeling(so I do agree with that one review that mentions that). But since I'm not turning them on and off that often it doesn't bother me.

Controller is the most important part of the box! If the controller is crap then so is the box!
 

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??? Why would I make that up??? Of course I am serious. Else why would I be asking the question???

And no I do not have any configuration right now, they are just separate drives.
So how do you plan on migrating your data? I think that's a bigger concern if you're using the same drives you have. I also do feel it is a little strange to have 20TB of data as a standard consumer and you do have a reputation of making erroneous threads, so I'm just treading lightly.

We have a Synology box at work which seems to be pretty solid. They're expensive but they're rock solid.
https://www.synology.com/en-us/

Maybe you can enlighten us with how your drives are setup now and the kind of free space you have available and we might be able to help you strategize a plan for migration.

Also you said this:
what is the best affordable (under $200) RAID enclosure that can hold at least 4 or 5 4TB+ drives?
Problem is you get what you pay for and that's not a very big budget. A little more money and an AM1 machine might make more sense using something like MDADM and a cheap sata controller (not RAID card).
 

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Controller is the most important part of the box! If the controller is crap then so is the box!

I haven't had any issues with the card, I've been using Highpoint cards for years, their cards are good. The main issue with their cards are the boot hangs, and if it affects you it is documented how to fix.
 

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I haven't had any issues with the card, I've been using Highpoint cards for years, their cards are good. The main issue with their cards are the boot hangs, and if it affects you it is documented how to fix.
+1

There's lots of good options for this, and using a Highpoint card to get the job done sounds like a realistic solution to keep it in such an unrealistic budget IMHO.

Off-Topic, but related to the OP:

I would recommend strongly questioning the validity of the request, comprehension and legitimacy of the OP. Please refer to the thread he created after this thread, and it was recently shut down. User account info is blocked, making me wonder if a ban has been put in effect as well??? Either way, I'd tread lightly with this user and his requests here.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/t...rt-of-a-dedicated-server.210492/#post-3251010
 

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If you have that much data and it is growing you need to start thinking about business level hardware. Could you imagine having to replace 20+ TB of data ?

Also off topic, It's ban hammer time !
 

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