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Megaupload finished: Feds shut down file-sharing giant without SOPA

Discussion in 'Science & Technology' started by MatTheCat, Jan 20, 2012.

  1. FreedomEclipse

    FreedomEclipse ~Technological Technocrat~

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    not that easy when you have the FBI on your ass.... but then you could always slip through the net...

    Bin Laden was a very wanted man. but how long was he living 'under the noses' of the pakistan goverment before the americans found him after all these years of looking???

    Conspirators might say that the pakistan goverment had been keeping him in hiding but thats for another thread...

    IMO if the FBI really wanted you, it would only be a matter of time before they tracked down your where abouts.

    but the resources they use would be better used against looking for terror suspects (or just terrorists) rather then chasing a boy half way across the world just because he linked to some tv shows - also another topic best left for another thread but slightly relivant.
  2. Drone

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    I've lost that long time ago. Since Kazaa got closed.
  3. overclocking101

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    this whole antipriacy thing is bullshit. straight fucking bullshit. who is really at fault though?? the person downloading it?? the site hosting it?? or the guys who sit there and rip the shit then put it on the site?? imo they are being dumb they first attacked the users. that didnt work. now they are trying to attack the sites, and if that dont work then what?? honestly how many times has TPB been shut down?? more then I can count yet the site stands today and still hosts illegal torrents, so why is it that MU goes down without a fight?? I smell some sort of government bullshit going on personally
  4. MatTheCat New Member

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    Or indeed many ex CIA and US military have said that Bin Laden has been dead for years. If this were the case (which it probably is given the access to highly traceable Western medical technology which Bin Laden relied upon for survival), then the Bin Laden 'assasination' was merely a piece of US foreign policy stage theatre. i suppose it would have been good to have heard some first hand accounts from the Navy Seals team that 'executed' Bin Laden', but unfortunately they all tragically died in that chopper which was shot down by a 'Taliban Stinger Missile' just a few weeks after the bin Laden mission.

    If they can spin of James Bond fantasies like this shit and have the world swallow it (seems ridiculous now with the benefits of hindsight):

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    Then they can claim to have killed a phantom that died years ago and have it accepted as official truth.

    To keep back on track with the thread topic, perhaps the above illustration can be reused to illustrate the Pirate Bays secret mountain hideout in the Scandanavian highlands.
  5. HTC

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    It has been renamed.

    It's no longer "Land of the Free": now it's "Land of the censored"
  6. lilhasselhoffer

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    WTF????


    1) I was in Europe during Obama's election campaign. Everyone there was salivating at the potential for Obama to be America's president. They hated Bush, and really "knew" that Obama was going to be better. Guess how that's turning out.

    2) I don't tell you who to elect. Pardon the hatred, but shove off. You know nothing more than I do related to politics. All you know is your own opinion.

    3) If you hate Israel and the Jews that's fine, I will not stifle your hate speech unless it threatens another person; the right to free speech is a double edged sword like that. Just don't ever ever bring that to a debate of reasonable people. Hatred for a specific group of people is not rational, reasonable, and definitely isn't something that can be supported by solid facts.

    4) Assuming this was an absurd hyperbole, then congratulations. I feel uncomfortable sinking to your level, and even worse answering your challenge. You belong elsewhere, perhaps the deep south of the US in the 1920's?

    5) I like Ron Paul. I'm a libertarian. Neither of these things is likely to get him elected, given that he is too radical for either side to support fully. Perhaps after the next failure of a presidency the public will be open to a third party. We did it in Minnesota, and it could happen with the whole country. This is all assuming that we aren't in another world wide depression during the 2016 elections.



    Edit:
    Rather than continue on with this sham of an argument, lets end it here. You believe the US is run by Zionists, who screwed/are screwing everything up. I don't. I believe that other people don't have any right to tell me what to believe unless I ask them. You believe that you know better. We both like Libertarian ideals, and are likely to have that political affiliation. For the sake of a continued and reasonable discussion I will concede whatever you need to have conceded in order to lay this to rest peacefully.
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  7. Easy Rhino

    Easy Rhino Linux Advocate

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    People don't understand free speech. If the FBI launches a full investigation into your business and they mount a pile of evidence against you then they take it to a judge who has the authority to issue a subpena. The subpena allows the feds to take everything offline immediately and essentially freeze the situation. they have to do this or a defense attorney could argue that the evidence was tampered with and have the case thrown out.

    if you are in the mob and the fbi mounts evidence against you they get the judge to issue a subpena and they raid your house and take everything they need for the case. you go to jail when they file charges. this is done purposely so you can't run away or continue doing illegal things.

    i'm all for free speech and i am against sopa/pipa, but this has nothing do with either. we will soon find out what d-bags the people at megaupload were.
  8. Arctucas

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    Well, some are...

    http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=23837

    I suppose it depends on who you are, or who you know.
  9. MatTheCat New Member

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    WTF indeed!
  10. KainXS

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    filehosts seem to be evacuating the US now Fileserve is trying to delete all US based accounts, uploaded.to has blocked access by US IP's, uploading.com has stacked on heavy restrictions and so you know Filesonic is by Fileserve

    this sucks
  11. Drone

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    The era of Totalitarianism is here.
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    That looks like it'd make an awesome video game level... Imagine its the final level and you just killed Bin Laden, you now have to escape while his super-goons are coming after you from the main entrance and you try to escape through the secret air ducts and passages while being directed by an insider that has secretly been on the US' side for years, then they get him when you are halfway through escaping, and you are forced to find an escape route yourself, then you are of course faced with extreme amounts of hostiles on the outside when you finally do escape, and the US government's choppers are trying to find you because you have no way of communicating with them while they getting shot down, then they bail on you and you are forced to escape down the mountain without being seen, and then you find a jeep at the bottom, start to get away, and of course they start following you... Wait what was this thread about again?

    Oh yeah, pfft.. everyone complaining about the US being censored; you are equally as bad, I got pulled up for saying 'poo' or something in an offensive way by one of the mod's on here.. it was ridiculous. Made me loose a bit of respect for this site. I'll probably get this post deleted because the mods don't want w1z discovering they may have a few minor flaws in their moderating techniques... For the record Mussels is a cool mod.
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  13. Fitseries3

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    all these ANTI sopa and pipa protests are doing is exactly what they want us to do... stop DLing and viewing stuff on the internet.

    i say FUCK THOSE MOTHER FUCKERS and download EVERY FUCKING THING YOU CAN POSSIBLY THINK OF OVER THE NEXT 6 MONTHS.

    FILL THOSE 8TB's OF HARD DRIVE MONSTERNESS YOU HAVE SITTING AROUND THE HOUSE!

    try to saturate 100% of your bandwidth with 100s of torrents of illegally obtained music, movies, tv shows, games, ebooks, ETC.

    what are they gonna do.... come to every house in the world and write us all tickets?

    THERES NOT ENOUGH TIME LEFT IN YOUR LIFE TO WAIT FOR THAT COURT DATE IF THEY ARE CALLING IN EVERYONE WHO DOWNLOADS CRAP.

    i run a computer repair business and 98% of my clients DL "illegal and copyrighted" data in some form or another. most commonly TORRENTS.

    how about someone get a huge fucking cable and drag a ship out into international waters and host the "illegal filehosting sites" from there? THEN its under almost no ones jurisdiction and therefore NO ONE can touch them... but i suppose they could still block the IP addy. Do like craigslist and have servers all over the world host your stuff so you cant pinpoint the real host.


    THE BIGGEST thing about this SOPA and PIPA crap that pisses me off is the FACT that NONE of the assholes writing this stuff up even know how to use any of this technology that they are fighting so hard against. LEARN SOME SHIT ABOUT IT BEFORE YOU TRY AND SAY ITS BAD YOU WORTHLESS FUCKING PEOPLE. its like if i had never ate a banana in my life and tried to tell everyone on TPU they are horrible tasting and not good for you. WHO AM I TO TELL YOU THAT IF I'VE NEVER TRIED A BANANA MYSELF?


    and if you dont think im serious about this.... i will tell you this> I call time warner 3-5 times a week to bitch about them capping my DL speed on torrents of time warner published materials such as movies made by warner brothers and games made by subsidiaries of time warner. after all... they dont stop me from DLing the stuff... they just make it take forever to finish.
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  14. xenocide

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    Get with the times man, we're all using Magnet Links now :p
  15. N-Gen

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    Honestly I'm just tempted to dish out loads of cash for more HDDs than I already have just to piss them off.
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    Well said. :toast:
  17. Live OR Die

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    Simple think about this the US government is poor there country is in recession so why not fly to New Zealand to get some free confiscated goods and money.

    MEGAUPLOAD HAS MY RESPECT. :pimp:

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    Thats kinda stupid. 70% of morons will go watch the movie or w/w in feb thinking they will be actually contributing to this action.
  19. lilhasselhoffer

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    For a slightly more balanced review of the "facts" than we are capable:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16642369


    Yes, the US has "asked" for extradition of these people. Other governments have complied, and handed people over without so much as a middle finger to the US. What a sad day for both sides.

    Apparently, the file sharing wasn't illegal. Based upon the news reports, the illegality comes from:

    Removing the political BS; you suggested people should upload illegal content, using 3rd party sites. The illegal part was providing incentives, while suggesting that this content should be posted, despite the fact that Megaupload never officially took this stance.

    So a whole website was taken down, because the US government was looking for a few people but didn't invest the time to target those who specifically developed the push for illegal file sharing.


    Again, putting this in a more politician friendly context; this is like shutting down Coors because they sell a product, which if consumed before driving, leads to reckless behavior. Subsequently all liquor manufacturers would close up shop, making the jobs based upon the liquor IP get destroyed, without creating new jobs at the car IP. Somehow, I don't think anyone has given the US government something like this analogy. If anyone with greater eloquence, or actual political pull, could tell them this hopefully they would get that what they are doing is detrimental to everyone.


    Whether we like it or not piracy exists and, short of becoming a totalitarian state, it will always exist. How we deal with it needs to be addressed, because our current policies and thoughts just aren't cutting it.


    Edit:
    While everything I learn is pointing me toward hating these guys, the backlash online is still a problem. If the US government had released some sort of statement, rather than being tight lipped, then maybe this might not have happened. Maybe the other file sharing websites could have remained operational. As it stands, everyone is running around in the dark and creating chaos for legal users. I know I'm angry. E-mail file attachment limitations are too small for what I do, and setting up direct FTP is a pain.

    ~Sigh~

    Hopefully something good comes out of this. Hopefully...
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  20. NinkobEi

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    After seeing the absurdly rich lifestyle the Megaupload guy was living, I have kind of lost my caring for him going to jail. Its one thing to offer a service and life a modest lifestyle. But that guy was probably raking in 10 million or more per year. He had to be to afford that kind of a house and cars. He really is like a drug dealer king pin. Who knows what else he was into.
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    Will swizz beatsz probably go to jail
    i doubt it he has the one thing this country values






    Money
  22. trickson

    trickson OH, I have such a headache

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    WTF? You people talk as if they are NOT steeling! What? We Americans are now the BAD GUYS again? Because these people were clearly making a profit from stolen goods! But now BAD America steps in and takes them down! What right do you Americans have doing this? Well just remember it is also a joint effort on behalf of there country as well! They are thief's! And now you see them as hero's? For stealing? For making a profit from pirating movies , Music and software? And you think that is ok?
  23. digibucc

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    extradition for piracy? and you think that is ok?
    this person is being taken from their COUNTRY, and being tried for laws in ANOTHER country. and you think that is ok?

    joint effort? more like:
    US: do this or we will ruin you.
    Them: well, ok then.

    and you think that is ok?
  24. trickson

    trickson OH, I have such a headache

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    Well apparently there country sees this as wrong too! or they would stop this! They can stop it you do know this right. So if there country and there laws sees steeling as wrong then they are also agreeing they have to stand trial for this crime!
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    speaking of the 1%ers..

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