ScienceMark thread (with score list)

[mikelopez]

Yes, this is what I meant about correction - I merit it!



* Reprehensible behaviour on my part? Absolutely... I didn't LOOK, before I lept, & omitted checking out his hardware spec!

APK

P.S.=> That's it! I need more coffee today... lol, & some chow! apk

Dont worry, I dont blame you. We are all getting used to the fact that C2D is outrageous!!!

 

[Devious]

Seems legit to me. Especially judging by the specs in his sig.

BTW...My score was a 1671.

Thanks Mike,

Mike has an E6300 with 2mb cache running at 3Ghz, my E6600 with 4mb cache is running at 4.005 Ghz.

If Mike and I ran super_pi we would see roughly the same % difference due to to increase speed and cache.


Just to please you, I have reduced my overclock to 3.8GHz, notice the BLAS/FLOPS doesnt go off the scale now ?

**EDIT** I notice you have accepted my results whilst I was creating this post. Apology accepted

 

[Alec§taar]

Dont worry, I dont blame you.

Heh, well... I do! I knew I'd be paying for last nite today... & am, bigtime, lol!

We are all getting used to the fact that C2D is outrageous!!!

What is "C2D"?

APK

 

[Devious]

What is "C2D"?

APK

Core 2 Duo

 

[Alec§taar]

**EDIT** I notice you have accepted my results whilst I was creating this post. Apology accepted

I had it coming... lol!



* BOY! Do I hate being wrong, especially if it is TOTALLY my fault!

APK

P.S.=> Devious, I dunno... maybe your result before WASN'T non-legit! I have been saying this throughout this thread - one of us should write the developers of this program!

After all - if you're stable? That is what counts imo, the most...

Thing is though, you may find that o/c'ing won't show instabilities in ALL apps, & NOT right off!

E.G.-> I can & have run here @ 2828mhz & surf the web, etc. all day & such... but, try to "push" my system around w/ an intense app like this one, OR Folding@Home when turned up THAT high??

Forget it.

Again - one of us ought to write the coders of this program, just to get them over here to look @ results that "overflow" their progress bar borders & such, or freeze in tests!

(This though, I don't knock - it's the stability test portion of this benchmark program, imo @ least)...

However, the fact it "cracks up", does "SuperResults" (see one I did early on in this thread, a 9500000 type score, pure b.s.), & also just disappears off screen @ times even indicates to me they have omitted error traps!

Stuff like On-Error-GoTo VB statents, or Try Catch Except/Finally from Delphi, ASP.NET/VB.NET Try Catch stuff

I may take the initiative to do so myself, because it's a NICE program imo, & this may make a BETTER "ScienceMark 3.0"... apk

 

[cdawall]

lol alec 1 bar being so far out thats kinda funny oh well conroe wins (when is amd going to get its butt in gear and release 65nm???)
btw i consider my score a liget glitch (lol)

 

[Devious]

P.S.=> Devious, I dunno... maybe your result before WASN'T non-legit! I have been saying this throughout this thread - one of us should write the developers of this program!

After all - if you're stable? That is what counts imo, the most...

Thing is though, you may find that o/c'ing won't show instabilities in ALL apps, & NOT right off!

Maybe my conroe isnt 100% stable in all programs, but it has been so far. Im running @ 3.8Ghz 24/7 just because it only takes 1.46v rather than 1.55v for 3.94Ghz. Im not too happy with 1.55v 24/7 atm but its ok for benching.

 

[Alec§taar]

Maybe my conroe isnt 100% stable in all programs, but it has been so far.

I don't doubt it... but, want to know a REALLY good stability test, above & beyond THIS program (IMO @ least)?

Folding@Home!

(Especially the console mode version, using the "-forceasm" switch... it's NOT one recommended for overclocked rigs, but is a performance enhancer... when it cracks up on me? I figure, it's time to "kick it down a notch" in the FSB etc.)

Good signaller of potential instabilities.

Im running @ 3.8Ghz 24/7 just because it only takes 1.46v rather than 1.55v for 3.94Ghz. Im not too happy with 1.55v 24/7 atm but its ok for benching.

Hey - JOIN OUR FOLDING@HOME team man... you've got a great rig for it, & the console mode app could be a GOOD solid test for you too!

APK

 

[cdawall]

lol you really seem to like that folding@home i dont want o do it b/c i know my system will lock up in it (ddr 2100 running at ddr2600ish wonder what will happen during heavyduty tests???)

 

[pt]

I don't doubt it... but, want to know a REALLY good stability test, above & beyond THIS program (IMO @ least)?

Folding@Home!

(Especially the console mode version, using the "-forceasm" switch... it's NOT one recommended for overclocked rigs, but is a performance enhancer... when it cracks up on me? I figure, it's time to "kick it down a notch" in the FSB etc.)

Good signaller of potential instabilities.



Hey - JOIN OUR FOLDING@HOME team man... you've got a great rig for it, & the console mode app could be a GOOD solid test for you too!


APK

My name isn't on the list, do i need to post a pic.?

 

[Alec§taar]

My name isn't on the list, do i need to post a pic.?

If you like, it does lend "credibility" & all that...

After all:

No one can give you TOO much guff if you do in other words!

(Yes, of course, there ARE those that are masters of photoshop & stuff that can "forge" a result photo, but I don't think you are that kind of guy).

Heh, are you the guy who said "I am too lazy to post a pic" or something along those lines?

IIRC, someone said that here...

No biggie, after all - this is not going to pay your bills & feed you, it's only a benchmark contest.

Still, I did use the images as I scanned thru the thread... otherwise, I missed anyone who didn't put up a photo!

APK

 

[pt]

If you like, it does lend "credibility" & all that...

After all:

No one can give you TOO much guff if you do in other words!

(Yes, of course, there ARE those that are masters of photoshop & stuff that can "forge" a result photo, but I don't think you are that kind of guy).

Heh, are you the guy who said "I am too lazy to post a pic" or something along those lines?

IIRC, someone said that here...

No biggie, after all - this is not going to pay your bills & feed you, it's only a benchmark contest.

Still, I did use the images as I scanned thru the thread... otherwise, I missed anyone who didn't put up a photo!

APK

I'm the type of guy who doesn't have a program to resize images so they can be uploaded, too lazy to get one, any good FREE ones?

 

[mikelopez]

I'm the type of guy who doesn't have a program to resize images so they can be uploaded, too lazy to get one, any good FREE ones?

Just go to www.techpowerup.org and resize it as you are uploading it.

 

[Alec§taar]

I'm the type of guy who doesn't have a program to resize images so they can be uploaded, too lazy to get one, any good FREE ones?

Infranview maybe?

I often don't resize, if a picture NEEDS to have detail... or, so I don't get suspected of editing anything falsely, etc. as well, naturally.



* Someone here suggested that to me, when I posted a huge photo of the ATI 9800XT I sold here to W2CHYK... that program's most likely a freebie!

APK

P.S.=> Don't sweat it, & I use PaintShop Pro 9.0 myself... good stuff! Do I use it to downsize all of the images I upload here... yes, most. BUT, there's times I am just "chillin'" myself & yes, admit to being lazy on resizings too... it's a time-consuming pain, lol... apk

 

[pt]

can't upload it, it gives me a error, the image is 1280X1024 and when i try to resize it to 620X512 it don't work

 

[pt]

Here it is at last:

 

[Alec§taar]

Standings, thusfar, from all contestants WITH LEGITIMATE RESULTS, ONLY:

Devious 2181.97
MikeLopez 1671
Urlyin 1537.93
Dj Dn 1446.18
Tigger69 1431.51
Myself 1401.20 (via 11x mult. X 249mhz FSB)
Myself 1401.11 (via 12x mult. X 231mhz FSB)
33 1395.99
Lekamies 1371.23
JNT Raptor 1334.32
pt 1256.23
cdawall 1030.50
Polaris573 1001.86
Solaris17 855.05



* Keep them coming!

This is interesting, imo @ least!

I love benchmark competitions for this reason: They are a testament to the skills of all "combatants" involved... especially on a field filled w/ folks into hardware!

A look @ who can build what, & how well!

(That statement of mine... it's subject to SOME given constraints though: Some folks have more resources ca$h-wise, & also technical know-how, plus some folks have newer/more "state-of-the-art" CPU's & RAM!)

Still, we all can gain by it, simply by looking @ the makeup of the systems involved - so we can gain insight into the NEXT rigs we all build!

APK

P.S.=> If I missed anyone's result, or was in error? Please: DO let me know... I will edit, appropriately as needed! I am WAY out of it today, hungover, lol... out too late last nite! apk

 

[pt]

Alec, just a idea, put the CPU of each score in there too, with it's overclock as well, just to give a better comparison
btw, wath is STREAM?, i got a better score than a conroe in there

 

[Alec§taar]

Alec, just a idea, put the CPU of each score in there too, with it's overclock as well, just to give a better comparison

Whew... that'd be some WORK!

(And, my man? IT IS THE WEEKEND!!! I don't work, unless I have to, & I did quite enough of that today (lawn, dishes, wash, cooking, lol etc.))

btw, wath is STREAM?, i got a better score than a conroe in there

Well, it's about data access iirc... for instance/e.g.-> You can open & read/write files (and EVERYTHING is a file to the OS, including your device contexts like screens, ports, etc. you name it, part of the HAL abstraction really & yes, object oriented designs) in BLOCKS, or STREAMS.

A decent example might be streamable multimedia like MPG, vs. AVI for instance... you don't NEED the "whole file" to access the stuff, it plays "on the fly" & each packet is like a tiny file unto itself in essence... block read data?

I am not sure if it can do that... over the wire that is.

I have a book on System V streams for UNIX & coding around them... I ought to look @ it & get an updated credible reference for that instead of operating on "flash RAM" in my head, you know?

APK

 

[pt]

I'm on vacation, a bit bored by now, so i do it, here it is, didn't see Dj dn post

Devious 2181.97 - Intel Core2Duo E6600@3942mhz
MikeLopez 1671 - Intel Core2Duo E6300@2995mhz
Urlyin 1537.93 - 175 Dual Core Opteron @2800mhz
Dj Dn 1446.18
Tigger69 1431.51 - Pentium D930@4200mhz
Myself 1401.20 (via 11x mult. X 249mhz FSB) - AMD ATHLON 64X2 4800+@2739mhz
Myself 1401.11 (via 12x mult. X 231mhz FSB) - AMD ATHLON 64X2 4800+@2772mhz
_33 1395.99 - AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2856MHZ
Lekamies 1371.23 - AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2700mhz
JNT Raptor 1334.32 - AMD ATHLON X2 3800+@2616mhz
pt 1256.23 - AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2500mhz
cdawall 1030.50 - AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2440mhz
Polaris573 1001.86 - P4 Northwood@3.2GHz
Solaris17 855.05 - AMD ATHLON XP@2340MHZ

 

[Deleted member 24505]

hello there alec m8.

my score is actually taken with my chip at 4385mhz.i run at 4200mhz coz i'm not happy running the vcore at 1.47v 24/7.so for normal use i run it at 4200mhz to keep the temp down a tad.

pic for verification

 

[Alec§taar]

I'm on vacation, a bit bored by now, so i do it, here it is, didn't see Dj dn post

Devious 2181.97 - Intel Core2Duo E6600@3942mhz
MikeLopez 1671 - Intel Core2Duo E6300@2995mhz
Urlyin 1537.93 - 175 Dual Core Opteron @2800mhz
Dj Dn 1446.18
Tigger69 1431.51 - Pentium D930@4200mhz
Myself 1401.20 (via 11x mult. X 249mhz FSB) - AMD ATHLON 64X2 4800+@2739mhz
Myself 1401.11 (via 12x mult. X 231mhz FSB) - AMD ATHLON 64X2 4800+@2772mhz
_33 1395.99 - AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2856MHZ
Lekamies 1371.23 - AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2700mhz
JNT Raptor 1334.32 - AMD ATHLON X2 3800+@2616mhz
pt 1256.23 - AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2500mhz
cdawall 1030.50 - AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2440mhz
Polaris573 1001.86 - P4 Northwood@3.2GHz
Solaris17 855.05 - AMD ATHLON XP@2340MHZ

NICE JOB, thanks man...



* Anyone noting an almost linear progression w/ mhz ratings, cpu type notwithstanding?

APK

P.S.=> dj dn has an Opteron, that much I know, or am fairly certain of, but I don't knock his clock rating...

my score is actually taken with my chip at 4385mhz.i run at 4200mhz coz i'm not happy running the vcore at 1.47v 24/7.so for normal use i run it at 4200mhz to keep the temp down a tad.

Heh, I took mine down to 230mhz FSB today for the CPU (2761.1 mhz & 184.1/200mhz RAM)...

That's just to see if F@H keeps on "screwing up" on me because I was o/c'd TOO HIGH for its tastes, w/ its '-forceasm' commandline switch (noted as sensitive to o/c'ing too much) because yet again? It screwed up on me right after last Wed. update (probably part heatwave, & yes, pushing TOO FAR for it's tastes)...

It's the last app that's misbehaving on me, but this to me is a signal (back down a notch)... apk

 

[pt]

Devious 2181.97 - Intel Core2Duo E6600@3942mhz
MikeLopez 1671 - Intel Core2Duo E6300@2995mhz
Urlyin 1537.93 - 175 Dual Core Opteron @2800mhz
Dj Dn 1446.18 - Opteron
Tigger69 1431.51 - Pentium D930@4385mhz
Myself 1401.20 (via 11x mult. X 249mhz FSB) - AMD ATHLON 64X2 4800+@2739mhz
Myself 1401.11 (via 12x mult. X 231mhz FSB) - AMD ATHLON 64X2 4800+@2772mhz
_33 1395.99 - AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2856MHZ
Lekamies 1371.23 - AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2700mhz
JNT Raptor 1334.32 - AMD ATHLON X2 3800+@2616mhz
pt 1256.23 - AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2500mhz
cdawall 1030.50 - AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2440mhz
Polaris573 1001.86 - P4 Northwood@3.2GHz
Solaris17 855.05 - AMD ATHLON XP@2340MHZ

Updated Tiger
Only Polaris P4 amd Tiger PD does not follow the line
Do you think that a FX-62 overclocked to 3.9 will do the same or better score than Devious conroe?

 

[Alec§taar]

Only Polaris P4 amd Tiger PD does not follow the line

They are the "intel guys in blue"... that's probably why, but that could be coincidence too, previous gen Intel no less (by way of comparison to the latest in the Conroe's, Netburst architecture iirc on the P4 Northwood CPU I am fairly certain).

Do you think that a FX-62 overclocked to 3.9 will do the same or better score than Devious conroe?

I would say no, but you never know... these Intel Conroe's are decent stuff, & are proving they can still "cut the mustard" vs. competition like AMD if they have to, WHEN they have to (& they have to).

APK

 

[Solaris17]

lol at least im on the list my athlon xp can hold its own still though she's tired i bet if i was nice to her id get more out of her.