The unknown future of PC gaming....

[TAViX]

Are you sure...???

Not anymore...NO.:shadedshu

Seen now the page. This sucks big time. I think they have changed this on those couple of months, because when they were talking about this game they were clear saying that those features are to advanced for consoles...WTF?!

 

[KyleReese]

Not anymore...NO.

Ah damn...you really made my day for a moment there....
I really wish they made a PC version of LA Noire built from the ground up....

 

[KyleReese]

By the way, do you think Duke Nukem Forever will be better than Crysis 2 on the PC? Maybe someone should start a thread about it....

 

[Mr McC]

I think too many people are confusing a particular company’s withdrawal from pc gaming or focus on the console market with the demise of pc gaming as a whole. Despite all the alarmists and doomsayers and notwithstanding the impact occasioned by the products of a specific developer in the past, pc gaming will survive and evolve without them, perhaps even strengthened by their absence. Marketing strategies inevitably employ references to past successes and we are bombarded with a host of sequels that often have little or nothing to do with the original game, particularly in terms of quality, we simply have to be smart enough to see through this. Rocky probably could and should have ended with the original film, but subsequent releases that have cashed in on its success don’t really detract from the quality of the first production. The same could be said of the second StarWars trilogy, the third part of the Godfather and, in all likelihood Crysis 2. Perhaps the days of being able to trust a particular franchise or company are reaching their end, but the industry as a whole, whilst suffering changes, will survive.

 

[wahdangun]

two word
-eyefinity/surround view
-and 3D

and btw Llano will change the shape of pc games because now generic and cheap dell tower can play modern games and make pc gaming viable and profitable again for developer

 

[hat]

I see the future of PC gaming being mostly shitty console ports. Games on the PC will pretty much be stagnant until the next generation of consoles come out with stronger hardware... only then will we start to see a lot of improvement.

 

[erixx]

Coding will not change, nor will writing letters, or designing stuff with the computer.
What will 'change' is the multimedia-multinationals sucking our blood...

 

[MLG The Canadian]

In my opinion, gaming has moved downhill quite a bit. It seems to be all about fancy graphics and effects rather than actually having fun with most titles.

This generation of kids listening to all this shitty rap and hip hop who grew up playing Call of Duty: Modern Warfare never saw what gaming was in it's prime. There is a select few of us who lived through the time of the Atari, NES, SNES and first 3D video game consoles such as the PSX and N64, and we will always have those memories. We're lucky enough to have grown up in such a time where gaming was evolving. I'm not alluding to anything but I haven't bought a game in quite some time, and for good reason.

I've got all my old consoles and games, and I play them regularly. All the old school resident evil titles (the good ones, 1,2,3 and 0, not the third person action shooter crap. You know, the games that actually defined survival horror), great RPG's like Threads of Fate and Final Fantasy, Legend of Dragoon, etc.

Personally I'm not at all concerned with where gaming is going because I'll always have my favorite games to play over and over again.

But yes, I do agree that gaming has gone somewhere different in the past 10 years.

 

[KainXS]

its those indie games that can make gaming better now those guys on they're piss poor budgets can push out fun games where the much larger companies can only sometimes put out rehashed storylines and repetitive garbage, im puttin my bet on the indie games.

graphics aren't everything and they prove it.

greed is murdering gaming now, years ago it wasn't really like this because many of the established developers and studios were still trying to get a foothold.

 

[CJCerny]

Guys, there isn't anything to worry about. I chuckle everything this thread comes up. Consoles have been around longer than home computers (hello...Atari 2600) yet PC gaming survives. PC gaming and console gaming are two totally seperate things. Yes, you can bemoan the fact that some big titles start their lives on consoles and therefore feel dumbed-down compared to titles that start development on the PC, but this whole gaming thing is a business after all, and people are in it to make money. If you want to feel special about PC gaming, stop buying the titles that were devoloped for consoles and focus on the titles that were developed for the PC, like StarCraft II, and Civ 5, and a long list of other titles.

 

[n-ster]

its those indie games that can make gaming better now those guys on they're piss poor budgets can push out fun games where the much larger companies can only sometimes put out rehashed storylines and repetitive garbage, im puttin my bet on the indie games.

graphics aren't everything and they prove it.

greed is murdering gaming now, years ago it wasn't really like this because many of the established developers and studios were still trying to get a foothold.

They figured "don't change it if it sells like crazy". Not really their fault

 

[Ra97oR]

I mostly plays mod, such as MWLL, Neotokyo, Dystopia and stuff like Red Orchestra. Doubt I will see any of them on console.

 

[RejZoR]

When retarded marketing schemes are dumped from PC's, the PC gaming will fly. Steam comes to my mind here...

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Naturally. Hundreds of millions of people use computers all over the planet, and some of them want sometimes to play something that's easily accessible, fast, and easy to learn, and that doesn't require special hardware to run (dedicated GPUs). No wonder so many people play garbage games on facebook! I just hope the game industry doesn't forget the hardcore gaming portion of PC users and turn its attention to consoles exclusively...

I'm thinking more and more so that indie is the future of gaming (e.g. World of Goo and Minecraft). The "industry" only cares about graphics (to make game critics excited which means they, in turn, hype it even if it is crap), multiplayer (because pirates can't pirate that), and of course, money.

 

[HookeyStreet]

I'm an ex-PC gamer and a current console gamer. Game devs know that the console market is where the cash is at! So more and more titles will be console only or console ports

 

[RejZoR]

That's not true. Cash is also in PC gaming if you market it properly and not with methods that maybe worked fine 2 decades ago... Great example are all the indie games that share great success. And Valve games. They simply use a modern model to sell their games.

 

[n-ster]

The average PC gamer is smarter than the average console gamer so the normal marketing tricks didn't work anymore

 

[HookeyStreet]

That's not true. Cash is also in PC gaming if you market it properly and not with methods that maybe worked fine 2 decades ago... Great example are all the indie games that share great success. And Valve games. They simply use a modern model to sell their games.

Yeah, there is still cash to be made from PC gaming. But console gaming is bigger right now. BTW, I'm not trying to defend console gaming or anything. I used to love PC gaming!

The average PC gamer is smarter than the average console gamer so the normal marketing tricks didn't work anymore

LOL

 

[BumbleBee]

Microsoft and Sony pay millions of dollars for exclusive rights. it helps to have incentive. you can count on The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim DLC being a timed exclusive. I find it interesting every platform has a company overseeing it except PC Gaming. nobody is watching out for PC Gamers interest.

 

[RejZoR]

It's bigger because stupid developers and even more stupid publishers allowed it. Before, consoles were far less popular (if we don't take Nintendo into consideration because they pioneered it).

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Microsoft and Sony pay millions of dollars for exclusive rights. it helps to have incentive. you can count on The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim DLC being a timed exclusive. I find it interesting every platform has a company overseeing it except PC Gaming. nobody is watching out for PC Gamers interest.

Microsoft used to but they abandoned it for Xbox (especially Xbox 360).

 

[TAViX]

Guys, there isn't anything to worry about. I chuckle everything this thread comes up. Consoles have been around longer than home computers (hello...Atari 2600) yet PC gaming survives. PC gaming and console gaming are two totally seperate things. Yes, you can bemoan the fact that some big titles start their lives on consoles and therefore feel dumbed-down compared to titles that start development on the PC, but this whole gaming thing is a business after all, and people are in it to make money. If you want to feel special about PC gaming, stop buying the titles that were devoloped for consoles and focus on the titles that were developed for the PC, like StarCraft II, and Civ 5, and a long list of other titles.

Interesting. Besides Mass Effect 1+2, I only have bought so far games that are PC exclusive (or they were developed first for PC than ported, not the other way around): Descent Freespace 1+2, DeusEx, Unreal 1+2, Tron 2.0, first NFSs, Warcraft 1+2+3, Starcraft 1+2, C&C - mostly all, Diablo 1+2, Half Life 1 +2 + eps, Never Winter Nights, Crysis, Witcher, etc, etc...Haha. Can only draw 1 conclusion...Console ports sucks and are no interesting...mostly.

 

[Benetanegia]

I think that consoles will dissapear after the next generation or this one if they don't release a new one soon. Wireless display technologies as a mainstream solution are just around the corner so we are going to be able t see our PC in any screen on the house. The integrated graphics are going to get better and better to the point were they will be able to produce graphics that are good enough for most people except enthusiasts and on the CPU side of things they are already powerful enough to drive advanced games, 6 cores will be mainstream soon and anything more than that overkill for what we now know as gaming. Even smartphones will be powerful enough for most people (and remember that you would be able to wirelessly output to the TV and have any wireless device as an input for the phone too).

Then there's Windows 8 for ARM that will open up the door to Windows gaming on portable devices, etc.

Enthusiasts will always want more and that can only come from advanced PCs and that will stay, but consoles which are something in the middle will just dissapear IMO. If anything Sony's and M$'s consoles division will morph into PC OEM companies dedicated to creating PCs (taking into account the new definition for PC, which includes tblets, phones and who knows what comes next).

So, there will be the mainstream market, which will play from Facebook and the like in their basic computers (for the time), maybe even tablets or smartphones, except those games are going to be far more advanced than current consoles anyway.

And there will be the enthusiast PC market driving innovation. I don't see a place for consoles in the middle of those markets. Everyone needs a PC and if the basic PCs have all the functionality of a console and are just good enough for gaming, I don't see any market for consoles.

So where does that leave PC gaming? Well here is more hoping than based on facts, but I think that once the enthusiast and mainstream gaming markets belong to the same platform, developers will find a way to make games better scale between mainstream solutions and enthusiast PCs, considering that the OS, APIs and underlying hardware are the same.

Game companies like Zynga and Popcap are already making more money than "standard" companies. PC gaming is here to stay, while consoles fade away, the only question is if enthusiast PC gaming stays, and I do think it will stay at least for another 10 or 20 years, or until games are completely realistic (holodeck), whatever comes first.

 

[20mmrain]

I believe PC gaming will make a come back when they make PC gaming as cheap as Console gaming. If they can do that things will take off again.

I also believe that Today's console gamers while they play for the love of the game.... also are lazy and have no interest in going for something better then what they already have. I remember back in the day one of the biggest draws to PC gaming was to be able to say Your Graphics just look better. There is no console that can compete. It was almost a badge of honor in my group of friends.
Now it's Who cares...."as long as I can play and I can do it for Cheap I don't care!"

To fix that PC would have to release something as good looking again such as DX9. When DX9 rolled around it gave a reason for consoles to step back and say shit.... our crap looks bad. Right now the DX updates and updates in graphics period!... (for the PC) have been more based off making a buck then making break through visuals.

People want to see eye candy! While Tessellation will eventually help with that.... It won't help with that as drastically as some of the other Graphics updates have in the past. So sorry to say most people don't want to spend $600 dollars or more each year just to get minor steps in technology. People want big leaps!

There are allot of other factors in this discussion too.... But I believe what I listed above...is a big part of it IMO.

As well as there is also the tendency of the human being to be just lazy and go for the easiest thing!

 

[Scheich]

greed is murdering gaming now, years ago it wasn't really like this because many of the established developers and studios were still trying to get a foothold.

Yep. It feels like the funlevel decreased by 80% over the past 10-20 years

Why is it, that the only intesting fun game is FREE game from a warcraft 3 mod

I wish, big companies wouldnt piss on gamers around the world with their copy paste crap,
but the crowd of young people buying anything is too big, i guess :shadedshu