Vista not as bad as people say

[Error 404]

I did but my pc still undermines me with you do not have adequate privelages or some crap like that its like having a wife

Well, imagine if a Virus started trying to mess with your Windows files: The UAC would pop up for no apparent reason, and you'd know you have a problem, but the Virus wouldn't be able to continue because you didn't give it permission.
It kinda makes sense, in an overprotective way.

 

[DrPepper]

Well, imagine if a Virus started trying to mess with your Windows files: The UAC would pop up for no apparent reason, and you'd know you have a problem, but the Virus wouldn't be able to continue because you didn't give it permission.
It kinda makes sense, in an overprotective way.

I know but if I have a virus I back up my stuff and do a reinstall.

 

[ex_reven]

Whoever said something about battery life on Vista being terrible is talkin' fud. When I first got my laptop I slapped XP on there to accompany Vista. After less than a week I had already reformatted and gotten rid of XP. On my Santa Rosa laptop XP consistently gave me an hour less of battery life when compared with Vista. (4 1/2 compared to 5 1/2)

Thats correct.
Because Vista is supposed to utilize ram, which means less disk access, which at the end of the day is the major battery killer (apart from 3d gaming)

 

[DaedalusHelios]

MS had a reason to move to XP from 98.. they had to get rid of dos.. no such reason exists for the XP to vista forced move..

in some ways MS have shot themselves in the foot with such a resource hungry piece of bloatware.. the new low power atom aint gonna sit well with it.. in fact no laptop sits well with it.. battery life being the biggest problem..

trog

Wow, did you forget Windows 2000?

We all should forget WindowsME though.

 

[ex_reven]

Wow, did you forget Windows 2000?

We all should forget WindowsME though.

No actually we should remember it.
And if an OS of similarity is ever released, Microsoft's design team will be executed lol.


On that note, the main flaws in Vista not catering for lower end machines should be seen largely as a marketing problem rather than a technical one.

 

[Edito]

when i first installed vista i was waiting for the worst OS ever, cause the forums and many other places are saying that vista really sucks but im using it from the very beginning and im adictive to it and can´t back to XP never and one more thing Vista was designed not to old machines...

 

[tkpenalty]

No actually we should remember it.
And if an OS of similarity is ever released, Microsoft's design team will be executed lol.


On that note, the main flaws in Vista not catering for lower end machines should be seen largely as a marketing problem rather than a technical one.

Quite true on that, however something tells me its to do with the media stressing its "beefy" requirements.... most OEMs these days only ever ship with Vista.

 

[Error 404]

Vista can, and will, run on an 8 year old laptop! I shall prove it!
It will probably be very slow, but it shall be done!
First I'll try it as a normal install.
Then I'd format the hard drive and install an nLited version!
I'll post my results as soon as I can find the Installation disk...

 

[Deleted member 38767]

Vista can, and will, run on an 8 year old laptop! I shall prove it!
It will probably be very slow, but it shall be done!
First I'll try it as a normal install.
Then I'd format the hard drive and install an nLited version!
I'll post my results as soon as I can find the Installation disk...

I've run Vista Home Basic without the eye candys on:
Athlon 1700+ Socket A
512MB DDR 400
Some old Gigabyte MB with Triton chipset
GF440 64MB
60GB IDE HDD

It worked just fine, just a bit slower than the XP would.

 

[spud107]

when i first installed vista i had an xp partition to fall back on, so wasn't using it 100% of the time, ended up formatting the disk for space lol,
but now iv given it another try as main os an for the past couple months its been running pretty well, one of my friends has changed there mind about it after seeing it running on my pc,
only problem was my creative card, but fixed with kx drivers,
(anyone with an older

(SBLive, EMU APS, Audigy, Audigy2 and SB 512 cards)

should give em a try)
http://download.kxproject.lugosoft.com/?file=kxdrv3541-full.exe

 

[infrared]

Like a few people have said in this thread, I wouldn't mind if it was a choice to move to vista, but instead they're forcing it on us.

One example of this - There is no reason whatsoever why DX10 wouldn't work on Windows XP. One guy even sucessfully hacked the dx10 drivers to work on xp, but he obviously got ass-raped by microsoft's legal team afterwards!

That said, I may consider trying vista again soon now that a few issues have been fixed.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I've been on vista for a long time now,its been reliable and runs all my games fine.Theres no way i'd go back to xp now,it'd be like downgrading.I dont care if xp is 3% quicker in games,vista runs fine.

The only thing that pisses me of is all the retards slagging it off all the time.If you dont like it,fine.But why go into every thread that mentions vista just so you can slag it off? If you dont have somethig useful to add to the thread,then keep out of it.If you dont want to use it then dont,but at least respect other peoples right to use it and like it./end rant

 

[wolf2009]

In all fairness you went through a substantial upgrade:

Processor: AMD AthlonXP 2800+ Barton --------------- Intel Q9450
Motherboard: ASUS A7N8X ---------------------------- GIGABYTE EX-38 DS4
Cooling: Stock AMD -------------------------------- Zerotherm Nirvana 120mm
Memory: 1 GB DDR333 ---------------------------- ------ 2x2GB GEIL Kit (4Gigs)
Video Card: XFX 7600GTAGP -------------------------- Palit 9600GT w/HDMI
Harddisk: 20 GB ------------------------------------- 250GB WD IDE + 250 GB External
CRT/LCD Model: Arnos Instruments S-19 ----------------- Sony SDM-81 (19")
Case: Some Cheap case - ---------------------- - - - -- Thermaltake Bach VX
Sound Card: Onboard --------------------------------- Creative X-FI Xtreme Music
PSU: Okia 420W 18A on 12 V -------------------------- Corsair TX650
Software: Windows 2000 ---------------------------- Windows Vista
Benchmarks: 3D Mark06 Score 2933 w/7600 GT on xp sp2 - 3d Mark 06 Score 10897 w/9600GT on Vista

It's great you are experiencing no problems but do you think it's possible that your positive experiences is more likely do to the hardware you had vs what you have now more so then just Vista? If you ever have the time try your new setup with XP and run a few games, benchmarks etc. That would allow you to gauge the differences IMO.

yes i did install xp first on this system, 3d Mark 06 was only 300 points less on xp . Hdd read speed with HDTune went up 6MB/s .

 

[NaziEskimoes]

Vista is horrible

Vista is complete rubbish. I have it on my laptop and I can't play shit for games on the damn thing. For a gamer XP is the way to be right now due to lack of vista driver support. I've also had SO many problems with nuissance popups with vista asking me if I want to make sure that I want to delete something pre-check bullshit, it just drives me nuts.

In other words. Roses are red, violets are blue. I'LL FUCK VISTA WITH A RAKE FOR YOUUUUUUU.

 

[wolf2009]

Vista is complete rubbish. I have it on my laptop and I can't play shit for games on the damn thing. For a gamer XP is the way to be right now due to lack of vista driver support. I've also had SO many problems with nuissance popups with vista asking me if I want to make sure that I want to delete something pre-check bullshit, it just drives me nuts.

In other words. Roses are red, violets are blue. I'LL FUCK VISTA WITH A RAKE FOR YOUUUUUUU.

lack of vista driver support --- really ? do u mind posting ur laptop specs .

if u have problems with popup , turn off UAC .

do some research b4 blasting vista like that .

 

[Braveheart]

totally, i dont understand why people rip on MS all day for vista, i love vista! sure you can barely tweak anything, but it's default settings for almost everything is very good. when i had XP i hated every moment of it.

 

[Triprift]

Just for once could we once have a balanced conversation instead of the Vista sux patrol come into any thread praising vista and bash it.Like tigger said if ya dont like vista then thats fine but atleast repect ppl's right to use it and like it.

 

[magibeg]

words well spoken from a dude who probably chucks his hardware away every few months and has practically spent nothing on software..

any estimates on what it would cost the world to throw it all away and start again.. ???

trog

Well actually i buy a new computer every 4 years or so and more or less what i was getting at in terms of software is that because of the sheer amount of legacy that microsoft has to support from the previous operating systems anytime they add anything new it has to be in addition to possibly older and less efficent methods used for old software. I was more geared towards software compatibility rather than hardware compatibility in that statement so i apologize for not being more specific.

In short microsoft is being bogged down by its own success by having to cater to people who still want their ancient software to run on a brand new 'cutting edge' OS.

 

[phanbuey]

Haha triprift is right... vista is a bit of a polarizing OS...

As much as I like to think it sucks compared to the hype and what it was supposed to have been (all the good stuff that got taken out of longhorn)... Overall, its a very good OS.

Yeah its not that fast when compared to a barebone XP Pro system, and thats sad... but it has dx10 support (i refuse to play dx10 games in dx9), faster memory access and readyboost, and its safer, and looks more stylish (XP looks old and shitty).

Vista is definitely not as bad as people (including me) say it is.

 

[DrPepper]

Just for once could we once have a balanced conversation instead of the Vista sux patrol come into any thread praising vista and bash it.Like tigger said if ya dont like vista then thats fine but atleast repect ppl's right to use it and like it.

nice one I like level headed and well founded criticims of vista and praising it's good points. While it may lag on some pc's I think it's mainly because of "user" errors e.g. virus' and installing bloatware that isn't really needed. For example when my mum got her laptop all she did was browse and play solitaire but when my little bro started using it, there was all kinds of unecessary programs and it is running badly now.
Specs of the laptop
CPU - Celeron 1.73 ghz single core
RAM - 768mb
GPU - SiS mirage

tbh it ran really nicely when she got it, I even installed battlefield 2 which ran but was kind of artifacty

 

[warhammer]

Xp is famous for BSOD.

I updated the hardware in my sons PC new mobo mem and video card he opted to put XP back on his system it lasted 4 days crashing BSOD and picked up some viruses his exact words were weres the vista disc XP is f***ing crap.VISTA

 

[wolf2009]

As much as I like to think it sucks compared to the hype and what it was supposed to have been (all the good stuff that got taken out of longhorn)... Overall, its a very good OS.

what was taken out of longhorn ?

 

[erocker]

Vista is complete rubbish. I have it on my laptop and I can't play shit for games on the damn thing. For a gamer XP is the way to be right now due to lack of vista driver support. I've also had SO many problems with nuissance popups with vista asking me if I want to make sure that I want to delete something pre-check bullshit, it just drives me nuts.

In other words. Roses are red, violets are blue. I'LL FUCK VISTA WITH A RAKE FOR YOUUUUUUU.

Judging by this morons username, I would just disregard anything that they say. Is that supposed to be poetry or something? Awww, Vista drives them nuts... What drives me nuts are ignorant idiots like him.:shadedshu And now... Back to "Vista not as bad as people say"...

 

[kylew]

Vista is complete rubbish. I have it on my laptop and I can't play shit for games on the damn thing. For a gamer XP is the way to be right now due to lack of vista driver support. I've also had SO many problems with nuissance popups with vista asking me if I want to make sure that I want to delete something pre-check bullshit, it just drives me nuts.

In other words. Roses are red, violets are blue. I'LL FUCK VISTA WITH A RAKE FOR YOUUUUUUU.

You're a total retard, you need to be banned just for your username. I bet you signed up on here just to post your message of spam. I doubt you've even installed vista on your "laptop". As for driver issues, you know that's not true. I've had ONE driver issue with vista, and it's not even an "issue", it's the manufacturer refusing to develop 64bit drivers as they don't think any one uses 64bit (utterly fail I know), other than that, I've had very old hardware working on vista with very little effort.

 

[Mussels]

vista works quite well. never had a BSOD that wasnt caused by overclocking, or betatesting software (beta drivers, beta games, etc)

To be honest, its ignorant people who complain anyway - vista is blamed for everything. OMG NO POPUPS ARE BAD! XPSP2 firewall anyone? popups that broke games! oh noes!
Crashes? stop using cheap $15 hardware you got, and inserting the 5 year old XP disk and forcibly installing drivers!

Vista is a great OS, that needs faster hardware than XP does. Then again, XP needs the same over windows 2000, so who cares.