Windows 7 Club

Inioch · Jul 28, 2009

I'm using the RC as my only os now. Skipped Vista mainly because it felt weird and cluttered. Biggest problem was finding a antivir & firewall since neither Norton or F-Secure work. Using NIS10 beta at the moment. Seems to work nicely.

Still getting used to where things are and how they work. Can't seem to get Everest to run without the UAC popup during login. Tried running in test mode and signing the sys files but no help there.

Still pretty happy at the moment. This thing is a resource hog btw, I'm using over 1g memory all the time. XP was around 500 with more programs running.

mikek75 · Jul 28, 2009

t77snapshot said:
Yes! I am using the 7100 build. This is a huge change for me because came from XP I had skipped the Vista move and just waited for Win7, This is awesome

Everything is running smooth except for two things: I can't seem to get F.E.A.R. 1 working, and every now and then my CD ROM drive doesn't respond (I have to do a restart for it too work).

As I said in another thread I have FEAR working under both Vista 64 and W7 64 :confused:

...
What have you tried? The way it worked for me was to explore the CD, find the setup.exe, right click and select Properties/Compatability/XP service pack 2/3/apply. Then, once its installed right click on the FEAR icon and do the compatability thing again. Works for me....

Solaris17 · Jul 28, 2009

i want in

Mussels · Jul 28, 2009

i'll try the upgrade advisor for laughs.

as for antivirus, kaspersky and nod32 work fine.

Inioch: just like vista, 7 uses more ram, the more you have. Its utterly pointless for an OS to NOT use the ram, since its faster than reading off a hard drive. mines using 1.6GB for just about nothing - but thats only 20% of my system ram.

edit: ran the advisor - it says i meet all requirements but hard drive space.

Inioch · Jul 28, 2009

Mussels: True about using ram. I was merely thinking about using 7 also in a netbook, which can be a bit of a pain if the os is using over 1G already

Anyone here tried it already? Of course you can disable Aero and stuff to bring it down a few noches.

mikek75 · Jul 28, 2009

Just because the RAM is cached doesn't mean its unavailable. The OS will release it if needed by an App.

r9 · Jul 28, 2009

You can add me as proud Windows 7 user. Many people are affected buy propaganda of new hardware and software of how better it is. But Windows 7 is really the best OS ever. Many will say yea it is the newest so it must be the best. But compared to Windows XP and Vista Windows 7 is great from the start compared to windows xp and vista that needed time to mature. I did not make any modifications to win7 I use it as developers mean to be used. I needed a week time to get use to.

AltecV1 · Jul 28, 2009

hey guys how use win 7,does game called Warrock play on the RTM version?

Ammugonevil · Jul 28, 2009

Add me cous ive got my code and Im just waiting for the clock to strike twelve on august the 1st.. or whatever the date is.....

Mussels · Jul 29, 2009

Inioch said:
Mussels: True about using ram. I was merely thinking about using 7 also in a netbook, which can be a bit of a pain if the os is using over 1G already Anyone here tried it already? Of course you can disable Aero and stuff to bring it down a few noches.

the more you have, the more it uses.

The LESS you have, the LESS it uses.

My mums PC is an old 1.6Ghz sempron with 1GB DDR 400, and it runs 7 just fine for non 3D stuff. Sure its no speed monster, but she has zero trouble using it for email, office, and photo stuff.

mlee49 · Jul 29, 2009

So I have to ask, why do we like Windows 7? What about it is better than Vista or XP?

My answer is because I like having the newest OS and even though compatibility may not be 100% for games/apps I have the latest M$ OS for FREE

Mussels · Jul 29, 2009

mlee49 said:
So I have to ask, why do we like Windows 7? What about it is better than Vista or XP?

My answer is because I like having the newest OS and even though compatibility may not be 100% for games/apps I have the latest M$ OS for FREE

cleaner interface, better support for high res screens (you can make stuff bigger)
Better support for small screens (you can make stuff smaller, to save screen space on stuff like eeepc's)

Its slightly better on resources than vista, much better if you have a DX10 card.
It doesnt thrash the HDD like vista.
It doesnt slow network transfers when audio is playing, like vista.
Its as stable as vista.

i'm sure theres more.

mlee49 · Jul 29, 2009

Mussels said:
cleaner interface, better support for high res screens (you can make stuff bigger)
Better support for small screens (you can make stuff smaller, to save screen space on stuff like eeepc's)

Its slightly better on resources than vista, much better if you have a DX10 card.
It doesnt thrash the HDD like vista.
It doesnt slow network transfers when audio is playing, like vista.
Its as stable as vista.

i'm sure theres more.

I hear that

Mussels · Jul 29, 2009

once i got my OC linpack stable, i have never had a single application or game crash in vista or 7.

Thats not so impressive except for the fact that none of my machines ever turn off - they use sleep mode, so they're running for weeks at a time with no problems.

MN12BIRD · Jul 29, 2009

I'm using Windows7 x64 as my main OS and its been great! The only problem I have is when it first turns on the network doesn't work for about 2-3 minutes. I can disable the network adapter and re-enable it and it works right away. Once it kicks in it works all day just fine. I tried the latest Vista 64-bit drivers but it still does this. Seriously though other than that one problem its been wonderful!

So are there only going to be three retail versions this time around? Are 32 and 64 bit versions going to be in the same box? That would be nice. But even then I wish there was only two versions like XP. Home and Pro!

Mussels · Jul 29, 2009

odd network problem. try manually setting your IP address (to what its automatically getting), with the gateway as the router.

EastCoasthandle · Jul 29, 2009

MN12BIRD said:
I'm using Windows7 x64 as my main OS and its been great! The only problem I have is when it first turns on the network doesn't work for about 2-3 minutes. I can disable the network adapter and re-enable it and it works right away. Once it kicks in it works all day just fine. I tried the latest Vista 64-bit drivers but it still does this. Seriously though other than that one problem its been wonderful!

So are there only going to be three retail versions this time around? Are 32 and 64 bit versions going to be in the same box? That would be nice. But even then I wish there was only two versions like XP. Home and Pro!

Sounds like a power saving feature. Make sure you have your network set to high performance if applicable.

Also check for updates for your network card/adapter.

I've read that disabling the Iphelper and unticked ip6 over ip4 in properties has helped but I can't say if that will work in your case or not. Do a search for services.msc to find Iphelper.

ov2rey · Jul 29, 2009

add me too ^^ i also using windows 7 64 bits as main os

Creatre · Jul 29, 2009

Windows 7 as main OS as of today. Yay for new hard drives and RAID setup allowing me a good time to switch OS. :rockout:

Water Drop · Jul 29, 2009

You can add me to that list since Saturday night I've been running Windows 7 on my desktop gaming rig (replacing Windows Server 2008 as my main OS). I originally had Windows 7 Ultimate x64 installed, but then formatted and installed Win 7 Professional x64 since that is the version I expect to be able to get a key for through MSDNAA.

So far so good. The latest version of Dameon Tools said it was incompatible with this version of Windows but I installed it anyway and it seems find other than the fact that I can't seem to disable my virtual drive (though mounting to it and unmounting to it work fine). Also networking for my VMs in VMWare Workstation 6.5 is not working, but other than that everything is working great.

EastCoasthandle · Jul 29, 2009

Ok, I've exhausted my search on the PB vs Win7 issue. From what I've gathered PB won't work properly until win7 is officially released. However, some PB enabled games like COD:WAW MP and BF2 may work with Windows 7. COD4 MP is the only game were Window 7 user have had the most kicks for Unknown API, etc. OP updated to reflect this issue.

So, if you want to use Windows 7 now you will have to keep this is mind. This is the only major issue I've found with Windows 7 for gamers. Unfortunately for some, it's a true upgrade stopper for now

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Solaris17 · Jul 29, 2009

EastCoasthandle said:
Ok, I've exhausted my search on the PB vs Win7 issue. From what I've gathered PB won't work properly until win7 is officially released. However, some PB enabled games like COD:WAW MP and BF2 may work with Windows 7. COD4 MP is the only game were Window 7 user have had the most kicks for Unknown API, etc. OP updated to reflect this issue.

So, if you want to use Windows 7 now you will have to keep this is mind. This is the only major issue I've found with Windows 7 for gamers. Unfortunately for some, it's a true upgrade stopper for now .

one thing i noticed is that i cant use anythign over 180.32 nvidia drivers or all my source games get funny...thats with a reinstall of steam all games -x32 tag disable physx and SLI still no go idk wtf is happening.

EastCoasthandle · Jul 29, 2009

Perhaps it's the drivers...

Solaris17 · Jul 29, 2009

EastCoasthandle said:
Perhaps it's the drivers...

it started happening on vista so i fresh formatted to 7 and it does the same thing

EastCoasthandle · Jul 29, 2009

My Experience with Windows 7

OK, it time for me to inform you of my experience with Win7. So far I really do like it. There is a slight learning curve. However, that's negated by reading the OP (which I will try to update as much as possible as information becomes available.). Win7 performance overall is similar to XP below is my experience so far:
-Installation of Windows 7 took the same, if not longer, then XP using a dvd.
-Interface is very intuitive and it's easy to navigate. Yes we all know it looks better :rolleyes:

-Startup time was exactly the same as XP so I noticed no improvement there
-As told earlier I had no sound so using that program is pretty accurate
-X-Fi's newest drivers worked like a charm. And, I was able to update X-Fi driver via MS which included all the necessary programs. Downside to this was that MS's update website only used 1/3 my download speed. Making a few 100Meg download take over an hour! :mad:

-Words in wordpad etc are a lot more crisper then before and looks better
-Total restore time (installing programs one at a time) took just over 2 hours. With XP it would have been just over 3 hours. So there is a remarkable improvement there.
-Installing programs were noticeably faster then before.
-Installing ATI Drivers were painless and so far, I wasn't asked to reboot.
-Download speeds appear to be the same so far from XP
-The sounds are a tad fuller then before when watching youtube videos. I can't explain why though.
-Photoshop Elements loads a tad faster now. I sometimes load this program more then once. On the second load in XP it would slightly pause before the screen would pop up. Now it's nearly instantaneous.
-COD:WAW MP plays just fine. Frame rates appear to be no better or worst then XP so far
-Digital Panel Attributes for CCC is now found in: Graphics > Desktops & Displays > Right click small monitor icon on lower right corner > Configure
-Check off Reduce DVI Frequency on High Resolutions Displays in CCC in order to get 60Hz refresh rates in Win7

My only gripe so far is that I like to know HD space available when using Windows Explorer. If someone can help me enable this it is appreciated. This is my experience so far. Even typing this post, the letters looks a whole lot better. It's hard to explain but it makes viewing this post easy on the eyes. If I find other things I would post them.

System Name	I can't believe I bought that / HTPC
Processor	i5-750 @ 3.5GHz 1.27v / P II 705e @ stock
Motherboard	Asus P7P55D-E Evo / Asus M4A785D-M PRO
Cooling	Corsair H100i / Air
Memory	4x2 Geil DDR3-2133 @ 1755 / 2x2 DDR2-800
Video Card(s)	Asus GTX660 TI / Asus HD6670
Storage	Crucial MX100 512GB + Spinpoint F1 750GB / Crucial m4 128GB + WD Green 1TB
Display(s)	HP w2408h / Samsung 55" HDTV
Case	CM 690 II Advanced / Silverstone GD02
Audio Device(s)	Integrated
Power Supply	Corsair AX850 / OCZ ModXstream 500W
Software	Win 7 / Win 7

System Name	As easy as falling off a lorry
Processor	Core I5 2500K auto tuned to 4.2ghz
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3P
Cooling	Corsair H80 sealed water cooler
Memory	16gb Gskill Ripjawz 1600mhz
Video Card(s)	XFX 6970 2GB
Storage	Corsair 120GB Force 3 SSD, OCZ 60 GB Agility 3 SSD, Seagate 500GB, 2x80gb Maxtors
Display(s)	DELL 2309w 23" Widescreen 1920x1080+ LG M2294D 22" 1680x1050 LCDtv/monitor
Case	Zalman Z9 Plus
Audio Device(s)	X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Pro
Power Supply	PC Power&Cooling 750w Silencer Quad PCIe
Software	Windows 7 x64 Home Premium

System Name	Rocinante
Processor	I9 14900KS
Motherboard	EVGA z690 Dark KINGPIN (modded BIOS)
Cooling	EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB
Memory	64GB Gskill Trident Z5 DDR5 6000 @6400
Video Card(s)	MSI SUPRIM Liquid X 4090
Storage	1x 500GB 980 Pro \| 1x 1TB 980 Pro \| 1x 8TB Corsair MP400
Display(s)	Philips Evnia 49M2C8900
Case	Lian Li o11 Evo Dynamic White
Audio Device(s)	Moondrop S8's on Schiit Hel 2e
Power Supply	Bequiet! Power Pro 12 1500w
Mouse	Lamzu Atlantis mini (White)
Keyboard	Monsgeek M3 Lavender, Akko Crystal Blues
VR HMD	Quest 3
Software	Windows 11
Benchmark Scores	I dont have time for that.

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

System Name	I can't believe I bought that / HTPC
Processor	i5-750 @ 3.5GHz 1.27v / P II 705e @ stock
Motherboard	Asus P7P55D-E Evo / Asus M4A785D-M PRO
Cooling	Corsair H100i / Air
Memory	4x2 Geil DDR3-2133 @ 1755 / 2x2 DDR2-800
Video Card(s)	Asus GTX660 TI / Asus HD6670
Storage	Crucial MX100 512GB + Spinpoint F1 750GB / Crucial m4 128GB + WD Green 1TB
Display(s)	HP w2408h / Samsung 55" HDTV
Case	CM 690 II Advanced / Silverstone GD02
Audio Device(s)	Integrated
Power Supply	Corsair AX850 / OCZ ModXstream 500W
Software	Win 7 / Win 7

System Name	Primary\|Secondary\|Poweredge r410\|Dell XPS\|SteamDeck
Processor	i7 11700k\|i7 9700k\|2 x E5620 \|i5 5500U\|Zen 2 4c/8t
Memory	32GB DDR4\|16GB DDR4\|16GB DDR4\|32GB ECC DDR3\|8GB DDR4\|16GB LPDDR5
Video Card(s)	RX 7800xt\|RX 6700xt \|On-Board\|On-Board\|8 RDNA 2 CUs
Storage	2TB m.2\|512GB SSD+1TB SSD\|2x256GBSSD 2x2TBGB\|256GB sata\|512GB nvme
Display(s)	50" 4k TV \| Dell 27" \|22" \|3.3"\|7"
VR HMD	Samsung Odyssey+ \| Oculus Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 Pro\|Windows 10 Pro\|Windows 10 Home\| Server 2012 r2\|Windows 10 Pro

Processor	C2D E8400@3.6 ghz
Motherboard	ASUS P5KPL-AM
Cooling	Freezer 7 pro
Memory	Kingston 4GB 800Mhz cl6
Video Card(s)	Sapphire HD4850 700/1000 + Accelero S1 Rev. 2
Storage	WD 250 GB AAKS
Display(s)	22" Samsung SyncMaster 226BW
Audio Device(s)	int.
Power Supply	Forton Blue Storm II 500W
Software	Windows 7 64bit Ultimate

System Name	Vader...(Alienware ALX X-58 Yes Im scum...)
Processor	Intel Core i7-975 Stock clocking
Motherboard	ASUS P6T DELUXE V2
Cooling	Liquid cooling (AlienIce 3. to CPU), 3x 80mm Fans left and right, and rear
Memory	Corsair Dominator 6GB DDR3 x1600 (3x 2GB)
Video Card(s)	Nvidia Geforce 295 GTX 1,792 MB
Storage	1st Drive SSD 512GB (2x 256GB Raid 0), 2nd Drive 500GB 7200rpm
Display(s)	24" Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP
Case	P2
Audio Device(s)	Creative sound blaster Titanium X-FI 7.1, Alienware TactX™ Headset, Logitech X-210 2.1
Power Supply	ALX 1200W
Software	MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Benchmark Scores	3DMark 2006 3DMark Score- 21,192.00 3DMarks SM2.0 Score- 7,670.00 HDR/SM3.0 Score- 10,588.00

System Name	The Dove Box Rev 3.0
Processor	i7 8700k @ 4.7GHz
Motherboard	Asus Maximus X APEX
Cooling	Custom water loop
Memory	16GB 3600 MHz DDR4
Video Card(s)	2x MSI 780 Ti's in SLI
Storage	500GB Samsung 850 PCIe SSD, 4TB
Display(s)	27" Asus 144Hz
Case	Enermax Fulmo GT
Audio Device(s)	ON BOARD FTW
Power Supply	Corsair 1200W
Keyboard	Logitech G510
Software	Win 10 64x

System Name	AMD Black Dragon
Processor	AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition
Motherboard	Gigabyte MA790X-UD4P
Cooling	Cooler Master Hyper 212+
Memory	4GB OCZ PC2-6400 Platinum (2x2GB)
Video Card(s)	ATi Radeon HD4870 512MB GDDR5 w AC Twin Turbo
Storage	Crucial C300 64GB SSD, 500GB and 2TB Drives
Display(s)	Samsung 2494hm, Dell (Samsung?) 1907FP
Case	Lancool (Lian-Li on a budget) K7
Audio Device(s)	Onboard Realtek ALC889A, M-Audio Fast Tracks
Power Supply	OCZ Mod-X-Stream Pro 600W
Software	Windows 7 Home Premium x64, XP Pro

System Name	MY PC
Processor	E8400 @ 3.80Ghz > Q9650 3.60Ghz
Motherboard	Maximus Formula
Cooling	D5, 7/16" ID Tubing, Maze4 with Fuzion CPU WB
Memory	XMS 8500C5D @ 1066MHz
Video Card(s)	HD 2900 XT 858/900 to 4870 to 5870 (Keep Vreg area clean)
Storage	2
Display(s)	24"
Case	P180
Audio Device(s)	X-fi Plantinum
Power Supply	Silencer 750
Software	XP Pro SP3 to Windows 7
Benchmark Scores	This varies from one driver to another.

System Name	Melissa pc
Processor	Intel Core i7-2600K
Motherboard	GA-P67A-UD4 B3 F5 Beta Bios
Cooling	Corsair H60 water cooling
Memory	G.Skill RIPJAWS-X CL7 DDR3-1600 16GB [Dual Channel]
Video Card(s)	Palit GTX580 3Gb DDR5 x2 SLI
Storage	WD Caviar Black 1TBX2 Sata3 Raid 0 /WD 640G Black SATA-II
Display(s)	Dell UltraSharp U2311H 23" IPS
Case	Lancool PC-K63 "First Knight Series"
Audio Device(s)	High Definition Realtek ALC892
Power Supply	Corsair AX1200 modular
Software	Microsoft Windows 7 Build 7601 64bits SP1

System Name	GAMING BEAST
Processor	i7 920
Motherboard	EVGA X58 SLi
Cooling	Noctua NH-U12P 120mm
Memory	6gb OCZ Gold DDR3 1600
Video Card(s)	Sapphire HD6850
Storage	2x640gb WD AALS Matrix RAID 0/RAID 5 (180mb/s, 7.2ms Access)
Display(s)	Acer X233Hbd 23" Monitor (1920x1080)
Case	Antec Three Hundred
Audio Device(s)	N/A
Power Supply	Corsair TX-750
Software	Windows 7 64-Bit
Benchmark Scores	3DMark06 (9600gt): 12,567 3DMark06 (HD4870): 16,587 3DMarkVantage: P4740

Processor	Intel Xeon X3210 Quad Core (G0) @ 3.2Ghz
Motherboard	DFI Lanparty Dark P35-T2RS
Cooling	Thermalright Ultra 120A w/ Scythe S-Flex F 120mm
Memory	G.Skill 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2-1000
Video Card(s)	eVGA Geforce 8800GT 512MB
Storage	WD Black 1TB + 320GB
Display(s)	Dell Ultrasharp 20.1" Widescreen 2005FPW (1680x1050)
Case	Cooler Master Centurion 5 w/window (black inside and out, debadged)
Power Supply	Seasonic X750 Gold
Software	Windows 7 Professional x64

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