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Posted: 2007-05-12
Last Update: 2007-07-01 05:07
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Rating: Superb (8.2)
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System Specs:
» Asus M2N 32-SLI Deluxe, AMD X2 4000 Brisbane @ 2.8, » 2gb Crucial Balistix 5300, ASUS 8800 GTS 640, Western Digital 160 gb hd, Hiper 580 Type-r, Hauppauge PVR150 TV card, Creative Audigy ZS soundcard, HP lightscribe dvd burner,Aerocool powerwatch frontpanel,
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by Sir Stunna Lot (May 12th - 6:23 PM) - Reply
Dayum! This show looks clean! Love the intake

btw.. how dusty does it get inside?
by mikey8684 (May 12th - 9:02 PM) - Reply
SOOOOOOO AWESOME (. Y .)

How much would it cost to post that from where you are to where I am heres my address

Cloud 9, Tell Him He's Dreamin' St, Dreamville

Damn why did someone pinch me

Anyway very nice and clean and looks kick ass .... if I ever get a job I will save for one and do what you done to the case ..... 10/10 ooh aah
by SmoKie McPott (May 12th - 10:05 PM) - Reply
love it all, but turn that freezer pro 90 degrees to face the right way...it looks as if its pullin the hot air off the vid card
by Protius (May 12th - 10:07 PM) - Reply
i like what you did with the heat sink
by Sir Stunna Lot (May 12th - 11:57 PM) - Reply
by: SmoKie McPott
love it all, but turn that freezer pro 90 degrees to face the right way...it looks as if its pullin the hot air off the vid card

i dont think he can... due to the memory location
by technicks (May 13th - 4:07 AM) - Reply
by: Sir Stunna Lot
i dont think he can... due to the memory location


I can't because this board has a different layout so i can not change the cooler's direction.
But i don't have any heat problems.
And for the dust. I allready ordered 2 mesh fan filters. because the dust bugs got me.lol
by Mad_Man (May 13th - 7:25 AM) - Reply
thats M2N32 right? i have that board but Dual-Chanell mem goes to either all black slots or yellow.
Yellow+Black gives single chanell
by technicks (May 13th - 8:25 AM) - Reply
by: Mad_Man
thats M2N32 right? i have that board but Dual-Chanell mem goes to either all black slots or yellow.
Yellow+Black gives single chanell
Thanks m8. I figured that out after looking at CPU Z. LOL
One pic has the memory in single channel.
by xXx...dIn05...xXx (May 13th - 9:40 AM) - Reply
Men Your Pc Is Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Cool I Like All Inside Bt Do Something For The Psu Cables:)
by Mad_Man (May 13th - 9:50 AM) - Reply
by: technicks
Thanks m8. I figured that out after looking at CPU Z. LOL
One pic has the memory in single channel.
oh yes, now i noticed that it was in dual-chanell in one of the pics.
Btw, its very nice, sleek looking case. Simply love it. Would you mind posting some worklog about how you made the front intake?
by technicks (May 14th - 1:13 PM) - Reply
by: Mad_Man
oh yes, now i noticed that it was in dual-chanell in one of the pics.
Btw, its very nice, sleek looking case. Simply love it. Would you mind posting some worklog about how you made the front intake?
Here you go. This i where i got the idea from.
http://www.mnpctech.com/120mm_FanDuct_Computer_Mod1.html

http://img.techpowerup.org/070514/Capture003.jpg
by d44ve (May 14th - 1:22 PM) - Reply
it looks good.... did you do it for any other reason other than looks?
by aximbigfan (May 14th - 1:27 PM) - Reply
wow... that is one nice mod. you sir, get a 10/10.


chros
by theonetruewill (May 14th - 1:31 PM) - Reply
Techniks this is a very stylish case. Clean, polished and the lighting is subtle compared to some more garish designs. The purple was a good choice, again like what you've done with the HSF. 9/10
by technicks (May 14th - 2:33 PM) - Reply
by: d44ve
it looks good.... did you do it for any other reason other than looks?
I did it because i like to do something in my spare time. Gives me satisfaction that i made something with my hands.
by d44ve (May 14th - 2:34 PM) - Reply
by: technicks
I did it because i like to do something in my spare time. Gives me satisfaction that i made something with my hands.
I agree with you... I think it looks great. I was just curious
by technicks (May 14th - 2:39 PM) - Reply
by: theonetruewill
Techniks this is a very stylish case. Clean, polished and the lighting is subtle compared to some more garish designs. The pruple was a good choice, again like what you've done with the HSF. 9/10
Thanks m8. I tried to keep it clean, so that it would look like the case was made that way.
I'm planning to do something with the sidepanel but don't know what accacly.
by technicks (May 14th - 2:43 PM) - Reply
by: d44ve
I agree with you... I think it looks great. I was just curious
A year back i build this case. http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/512.
Case is aluminum and mdf.
I still have it and in the summer vacation i'm gonna upgrade it.
by devinXkillyou (May 15th - 10:46 PM) - Reply
thats a really cool patter on top of the cpu cooler and the side of the drive bays. is it a sticker or what? did it come like that? reminds me of carbon fiber
by technicks (May 16th - 8:56 AM) - Reply
by: devinXkillyou
thats a really cool patter on top of the cpu cooler and the side of the drive bays. is it a sticker or what? did it come like that? reminds me of carbon fiber
Thanks. It's a carbon look sticker. Bought it on Ebay.
by FOXCONN1115 (May 17th - 2:42 AM) - Reply
awesome job, especially for the antec 900, i have one and cant seam to keep it clean, although i do have a LOT of stuff jammed in it XD
by frankenchrist (May 17th - 10:53 PM) - Reply
Well Done very clean, and the routing makes me cry!

I lost my nibbler and need to buy a new one to even compete with this one!
by technicks (May 18th - 9:27 AM) - Reply
by: frankenchrist
Well Done very clean, and the routing makes me cry!

I lost my nibbler and need to buy a new one to even compete with this one!


LOL. Thank's m8
by Mussels (May 18th - 11:01 AM) - Reply
not the fastest rig, but i certainly like purple. 9/10 :)
by technicks (May 18th - 12:22 PM) - Reply
by: Mussels
not the fastest rig, but i certainly like purple. 9/10 :)
I got it running @ 3.ghz and ddr2 @1000mhz. Fast enough? lol

Thanks for voting.
by Da iLLeZt TL973 (May 18th - 2:37 PM) - Reply
dam you make the antec 900 look a million times better lol....i have one and i cant manage to keep the wires as neat as yours...as far as dust where did you order the mesh filters from??.....also what kind of paint did you use on the inside of the case??......sick modding 9/10
by technicks (May 19th - 4:57 AM) - Reply
by: Da iLLeZt TL973
dam you make the antec 900 look a million times better lol....i have one and i cant manage to keep the wires as neat as yours...as far as dust where did you order the mesh filters from??.....also what kind of paint did you use on the inside of the case??......sick modding 9/10


I used Duplicolor paint. Very good an you can buy it almost everywhere. Remember to buy a primer from the same brand to.
For the mesh fan filters i bought them here: http://stores.ebay.com/Techgirls-Treasures.
Very cheap and excellent seller.
by pentastar111 (May 23rd - 1:29 PM) - Reply
Jesus!! That thing is neat and very neat. beautiful case! very nice work 10/10
by xnox202 (June 2nd - 9:35 PM) - Reply
one of the sickest looking antec 900. ;) 9/10
by technicks (June 3rd - 2:40 AM) - Reply
http://www.leetlounge.com/gallery.html

I got invited to the Antec case gallery. Pretty cool.
by xnox202 (June 3rd - 9:41 AM) - Reply
by: technicks
http://www.leetlounge.com/gallery.html

I got invited to the Antec case gallery. Pretty cool.
My 900's not modded. Good to see yours there.
by xnox202 (June 3rd - 9:44 AM) - Reply
Just visited the PNY's 900 page. For once, I ever wanted a Antec 900 case, and almost bought 4x Antec Tri-cool Red Leds, in accordance to make my new PCI-E rig based on the Sapphire Pure ADV-RD580AM2 Mobo, and the X1950XTX in CF, along with a 6000+.. But that hope never came.. Cause I kept spending on my current rig. +_= But maybe.. Just maybe..
by rsnt (June 25th - 4:24 PM) - Reply
This is a really sweet job! I'm planning on the same concept on a Stacker STC-T01, there's going to be three 120mm fans on the front though, not one. I do have a question though, how did you fit the aluminum afterwards? do you have any pictures of that?
by sampson2269 (June 25th - 7:40 PM) - Reply
Hey that cooler master CD drive cover you have on there did it just screw into place? I am curious because i am wanting to do the same thing with that, but need to know before i do it all because I'm having my brother put a custom paint job on it all and will have to paint the drive cover also.
by hat (June 25th - 7:44 PM) - Reply
it's a wind tunnel!
by HookeyStreet (June 25th - 7:49 PM) - Reply
technicks m8, your PC is a thing of beauty!!! It looks amazing!!!
by sampson2269 (June 25th - 7:51 PM) - Reply
not the wind tunnel i know that bud i am wondering if the coolermaster cd drive bazel cover just screwed into place or if he had to mod to get that on also?
by romwin (June 26th - 5:58 PM) - Reply
Can you tell me more about the paint you chose? Duplicolor paint comes in all different styles and types and the finish you acheived is perfectly flawless!!

Thanks!
oh.. btw 10/10!
by technicks (June 27th - 3:47 PM) - Reply
by: sampson2269
not the wind tunnel i know that bud i am wondering if the coolermaster cd drive bazel cover just screwed into place or if he had to mod to get that on also?

You can tape it on. 3M double sided tape.
by technicks (June 27th - 3:48 PM) - Reply
by: HookeyStreet
technicks m8, your PC is a thing of beauty!!! It looks amazing!!!
Thanks Hookey. I tried to do good. And it came out nice.
by Bossweed16pipes (June 27th - 11:18 PM) - Reply
KICK ASS RIG!!! 10/10
just plain beautifull

thx for youre comment on my rig ;)
by MachineHead (June 30th - 7:03 AM) - Reply
I agree, awesome job!

I'm gonna attempt Mnpctech's Turbine Fan Case Mod
by HookeyStreet (June 30th - 7:05 AM) - Reply
by: technicks
Thanks Hookey. I tried to do good. And it came out nice.


Your welcome m8! That is, without a doubt, one of the nicest PCs Ive ever seen! Is the rest of your room still funky/retro (coz that looked awesome too!)

PS: what speed is your Foxconn 8800GTS running at? Ive got a great overclocked BIOS for it here (via windows flash) if you want it (ive got them for the 320mb, 640mb & GTX Foxconn versions ;) )
by technicks (June 30th - 4:09 PM) - Reply
by: HookeyStreet
Your welcome m8! That is, without a doubt, one of the nicest PCs Ive ever seen! Is the rest of your room still funky/retro (coz that looked awesome too!)

PS: what speed is your Foxconn 8800GTS running at? Ive got a great overclocked BIOS for it here (via windows flash) if you want it (ive got them for the 320mb, 640mb & GTX Foxconn versions ;) )
Thanks man. I appreciate that.
I got the Asus GTS 640 instead. They send me the wrong card. But i can't complain this card
rocks. Room is still the same basically.
Waiting for the prices to drop on the c2d's and score me a nice one.
How is your new setup. Do you like it?
by nora.e (June 30th - 4:46 PM) - Reply
First one I've seen that I've scored a 10! Very nicely done!!!
by technicks (July 1st - 4:04 AM) - Reply
by: nora.e
First one I've seen that I've scored a 10! Very nicely done!!!
Thanks very much m8.
by HookeyStreet (July 1st - 7:55 AM) - Reply
by: technicks
Thanks man. I appreciate that.
I got the Asus GTS 640 instead. They send me the wrong card. But i can't complain this card
rocks. Room is still the same basically.
Waiting for the prices to drop on the c2d's and score me a nice one.
How is your new setup. Do you like it?


Cool, I have the 'High Performance BIOS' for the ASUS 8800GTS 640mb aswell if you want it m8 (pm me your email address ;)

Got idea in waiting for the c2d's to come down in price again. YOuw ill be able to pick up a sweet Quad Core pretty cheap ;) Sadly, you will never go back to AMD then LOL :)

Im loving my new rig btw, its so fast! All I need is a tasty 8800 and I will be happy :)



EDIT: heres a link to the BIOS you need m8: http://putstuff.putfile.com/92190/5623958

Ive flashed at least 5 various models of 8800's with these performance BIOS' and they work great ;)
by WarEagleAU (July 1st - 10:38 AM) - Reply
sweet build technicks. Makes my Antec 900 case look dull and boring now. 10/10
by J-Man (July 1st - 10:40 AM) - Reply
I want that case!
by fkyx (July 6th - 4:52 PM) - Reply
How did you fit that fan *into* the drive bays? Is it 120mm? Were there any big mods you had to make to fit it?

Did you use UV cold cathode lights to get the purple effect?

Killer mods, dude.
by FAXA (July 8th - 7:22 AM) - Reply
Damn that s*** is HAWT!!!
by FOXCONN1115 (July 9th - 1:43 AM) - Reply
i like the update.. :)
by technicks (July 10th - 8:47 AM) - Reply
by: fkyx
How did you fit that fan *into* the drive bays? Is it 120mm? Were there any big mods you had to make to fit it?

Did you use UV cold cathode lights to get the purple effect?

Killer mods, dude.
http://img.techpowerup.org/070514/Capture003.jpg. No purple. But UV.
by Taso (August 3rd - 8:19 AM) - Reply
lovely case i wonder what model is that psu....
by technicks (August 4th - 8:21 AM) - Reply
by: Taso
lovely case i wonder what model is that psu....
That's a Hiper type R 580 w psu. Thanks for voting.
by Ravenas (August 8th - 7:25 PM) - Reply
Awesome case, very clean.
by Neohazard (September 6th - 11:44 AM) - Reply
10 for u too nice rig and cleanest i like the carbon and black beautiful combination,
great cable management.
bye ;)
by HookeyStreet (September 13th - 8:56 AM) - Reply
I still think this is the nicest looking system on the TPU case gallery, without a doubt!

The more I look at it, the more I think WOW!
by technicks (September 13th - 11:53 AM) - Reply
by: HookeyStreet
I still think this is the nicest looking system on the TPU case gallery, without a doubt!

The more I look at it, the more I think WOW!


You are to good for me. Thanks Hookey.
by HookeyStreet (September 13th - 2:28 PM) - Reply
by: technicks
You are to good for me. Thanks Hookey.


Im just speaking the truth m8, youve done that awesome case proud m8 :) If my rigs looked half as nice I would be happy :)

PS: I do think you should keep your case when you go C2D ;) You could even get the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro and give it that carbon fibre look like your Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro ;)
by p_o_s_pc (September 13th - 2:38 PM) - Reply
This is one 900 that i like.
by inevitabler25 (October 9th - 11:42 AM) - Reply
you rig rocks man! It's Clean and i like the carbon modz and lastly i love the color combination from the background and in and out of your rig. ;)
by HookeyStreet (October 9th - 1:53 PM) - Reply
by: inevitabler25
you rig rocks man! It's Clean and i like the carbon modz and lastly i love the color combination from the background and in and out of your rig. ;)
I agree, it is a beauty!
by technicks (October 10th - 4:10 PM) - Reply
by: HookeyStreet
I agree, it is a beauty!
Hookey.

I got the FX62 from Damulta in my rig now.
Gonna try how high it will go. Pretty nice unlocked multi on this cpu.
I will sell it again and go for a Q6600 and a GigaByte P35-DS4 board. Will have it in a couple of weeks. Can't wait.
by SMACK900 (October 28th - 9:04 PM) - Reply
Awesome rig,

I love what you did to the front 10/10 from me
by snafuthesane (November 1st - 3:10 AM) - Reply
Thats way sickk. !!!.. 10/10, excellent work.
I love widescreen monitors, too.. I just recently got my samsung 24". :D
Really nice, though. Freakin' jet engine. lol

OHH.. hey, my TJ07 case will be here tomorrow.. anyone have that case?
I'm stokedXcore. :] :]
by WildCat87 (November 25th - 8:49 AM) - Reply
Looks amazing. The inside, the outside, the whole thing is awesome! Good job.
by EnergyFX (December 9th - 1:34 PM) - Reply
10!!!
by technicks (December 9th - 3:38 PM) - Reply
by: EnergyFX
10!!!
Thanks my friend.
by mortal (December 19th - 4:45 AM) - Reply
Damm i just saw it. Great case mod!
by Ati Addictive (January 5th - 7:52 PM) - Reply
Nice Rigg,the cooler i find most interesting never seen one like that before i would mod it if i where you take the FAN out a do a purple one in it. Also i would take your PC out of eighother and make the backpanel with a mirror that way you see more and the light reflects a lot better, mod it a little more and you will be a very happy man (i think you are already that)

Rate: 9/10

Rate my PC too

http://www.hardware.info/nl-NL/usersys/cmpxYp1gk2Sd/view/
by erocker (January 5th - 8:14 PM) - Reply
I love the sytem, hands down a 10 and in the top 5 in this entire gallery. One thing that confuses me is the cpu cooler fans. From the testing I've done with that cooler, it generally works best when the fan is blowing towards the rear exhaust. Plus, the rear exhaust fan shouldn't have a dust filter on it?! I'll say it does look the best in your config, but why?
by p_o_s_pc (January 6th - 6:13 PM) - Reply
by: technicks
I got it running @ 3.ghz and ddr2 @1000mhz. Fast enough? lol

Thanks for voting.
what are your mem timings? If it is 4-4-4-12 or lower that is fast enough.
by technicks (January 8th - 11:50 AM) - Reply
These are all old parts.

Update to a Q6600, MSI p35 Platinum,4 gb Crucial Ballistix 1000Mhz 4-4-3-10, Asus 8800GTS 512,
Thermalright Ultima 90.

Atm i can't update my pictures because something is wrong with it. I asked a mod about it but he could not fix it.
I have to send W1zzard a pm. I'm lazy.
by technicks (January 8th - 12:04 PM) - Reply
by: Ati Addictive
Nice Rigg,the cooler i find most interesting never seen one like that before i would mod it if i where you take the FAN out a do a purple one in it. Also i would take your PC out of eighother and make the backpanel with a mirror that way you see more and the light reflects a lot better, mod it a little more and you will be a very happy man (i think you are already that)

Rate: 9/10

Rate my PC too

http://www.hardware.info/nl-NL/usersys/cmpxYp1gk2Sd/view/


Thanks for the vote.
Nice ideas. Should try them yourself.
Btw i hate mirrors. My rig is not a Christmas tree so it doesn't need the lighting.
The cooler is the Arctic Freezer 64 Pro. It just has a carbon look sticker on it.

When i looked at this post i came out angry. Not so.lol
by thoughtdisorder (January 8th - 12:06 PM) - Reply
Hey tech - Solid 10/10. Very sweet! Luv the intake! Hope ya don't mind I'm showing it off to some buds here at work! (Slow today here)
by technicks (January 8th - 12:08 PM) - Reply
by: erocker
I love the sytem, hands down a 10 and in the top 5 in this entire gallery. One thing that confuses me is the cpu cooler fans. From the testing I've done with that cooler, it generally works best when the fan is blowing towards the rear exhaust. Plus, the rear exhaust fan shouldn't have a dust filter on it?! I'll say it does look the best in your config, but why?
Why? Could not fit the Arctic any other way on that mobo.
For the dustfilter. I put it on because it cleaning the air that is blowing at the back of my case. So i don't have to dust so often.
by technicks (January 8th - 12:11 PM) - Reply
by: thoughtdisorder
Hey tech - Solid 10/10. Very sweet! Luv the intake! Hope ya don't mind I'm showing it off to some buds here at work! (Slow today here)
I wish i could upload some new pictures you will love them.
I will pm W1zzard about it. Keep your eyes open.
And thanks for the vote man. I am honored that you will show my case.
by y2nicco (January 28th - 4:36 AM) - Reply
Wow. Just wow. The most amazing thing I have seen simply because, I just built this case and the cable management is an absolute mess. Maybe you can give me some tips? My PSU isn't modular - I have the 680W Hiper w/ the nine USB ports (lol). The extra cables really arent a problem for me because I have just tucked them under the bottom hard drive bay rather niceley. My problem is that my MOBO power, IDE power/cable, cpu cable, etc. are running between my mobo and drive bays... and rather poorly at that. I would appreciate any suggestions.. like how you got the inside to look black, and how you see almost NO cables.

11/10!
by Jelle Mees (January 28th - 8:26 AM) - Reply
Best Nine Hundred modification I've ever seen! ;)
by Mussels (January 28th - 8:35 AM) - Reply
just posting again after posting early on in the piece - this truly is one of the best mods on TPU. some people go for bling, some add more cooling, some hack holes in a case.

This is one of the few mods that does it all. better cooling, better looks, and actual physical modification of hardware.
by technicks (January 28th - 1:08 PM) - Reply
Thanks guys. I appreciate that.

Please look at my update and tell me what you think of it. http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1283.html

I tried to do a bit more cable management. And updated the hardware. Came out pretty nice.
2 Gb Crucial Tracers are coming in this week. Damn customs.
by y2nicco (January 28th - 1:51 PM) - Reply
Any tips on how to successfully ropute the cables under the mobo? It seems like you would need to elevate the mobo some how - just looking for some help to clean up! Also, can you recommend any good filters? All the ones i have found are cheap and severely cripple my airflow.
by technicks (January 31st - 9:31 AM) - Reply
by: y2nicco
Any tips on how to successfully ropute the cables under the mobo? It seems like you would need to elevate the mobo some how - just looking for some help to clean up! Also, can you recommend any good filters? All the ones i have found are cheap and severely cripple my airflow.
Just cut a hole in the case behind the mobo.
by Mussels (January 31st - 5:42 PM) - Reply
by: y2nicco
Any tips on how to successfully ropute the cables under the mobo? It seems like you would need to elevate the mobo some how - just looking for some help to clean up! Also, can you recommend any good filters? All the ones i have found are cheap and severely cripple my airflow.
set your system up with positive air pressure (more air in than out) and you'll find dust to be a lot less of a problem. ALL filters block airflow.
by Nitro-Max (January 31st - 7:21 PM) - Reply
Streaght away i can see youve put alot of time and effort and thought into your case and even the smallest details are noticable i like what you did with the arctic freezer hs 10/10 from me bud great job nice rig.
by Jimmy 2004 (February 4th - 1:17 PM) - Reply
Very nice... very clean, very tidy. 10/10!
by Snakeuo (February 4th - 1:33 PM) - Reply
i was wondering how you made that with the antec, i have seen how to make the duct and turbo fan but not sure how you did it with the 900. Did you cut through the metal mesh that covers the fan or did you make it some other way?
by Azazel (February 5th - 4:18 AM) - Reply
man that is nice
by EnergyFX (June 19th - 7:13 AM) - Reply
Wow, viewed over 20,000 times! This rig draws a lot of attention ;-)

Must be the purple!
by technicks (June 20th - 1:15 PM) - Reply
by: EnergyFX
Wow, viewed over 20,000 times! This rig draws a lot of attention ;-)

Must be the purple!
Yeah i noticed that to. I am honored so many people look at it.
by groothof22 (November 5th - 7:00 AM) - Reply
that was you old specs? its a nice look to look at technicks 10/10 from me to m8
by hooj (November 5th - 7:53 AM) - Reply
I really do like your case man !
by technicks (November 6th - 1:27 PM) - Reply
by: hooj
I really do like your case man !
Thanks man.

And yeah this was my old setup from a few years back.
My new one is the Lian Li.
by dark2099 (December 3rd - 6:03 PM) - Reply
by: SmoKie McPott
love it all, but turn that freezer pro 90 degrees to face the right way...it looks as if its pullin the hot air off the vid card
Actually it is blowing air down toward the vid card, which is creating some negative flow since the 200mm fan above it is sucking air up.
by technicks (February 8th - 4:43 PM) - Reply
by: Viana.
I voted 4/10 because:

fair
Thanks for being a bitch. 0 post and you come and pis me off.
by legends84 (February 10th - 7:34 AM) - Reply
that is way tooooooooo fantastic.... nice moding. very clean and tidy... asus 8800GTS 640!! man I miss my old VGA so much... use to have that GTS on my first rig.. you deserve 10 points from me.. keep it up bro..:D
by legends84 (February 10th - 7:37 AM) - Reply
by: Viana.
I voted 4/10 because:

fair
yeah bitch.. Show us ur rig so we can smack a 10 out of it!!!!
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