R-T-Bdoes not actually work

Orly
because it works fine here

OneMoarOrly
because it works fine here

Hasn't worked for me since day one. @RejZoR has reported the same. Nvidia also no longer distributes drivers via WU. What do you have besides that that is out of date? I suspect you don't have anything and are being tricked into thinking it works. I wouldn't be certain of this though, as maybe they finally fixed it. Would not know, been running a driver filtering WSUS server for a bit now.

R-T-BHasn't worked for me since day one. @RejZoR has reported the same. Nvidia also no longer distributes drivers via WU. What do you have besides that that is out of date? I suspect you don't have anything and are being tricked into thinking it works. I wouldn't be certain of this though, as maybe they finally fixed it. Would not know, been running a driver filtering WSUS server for a bit now.

seems to work just dandy preventing realtek/amd's drivers from installing
the thing is you need to uninstall the current driver from the device manger and check "delete drivers for this device" if you have already allowed WU to uninstall a unwanted version

Possible. It WAS broken in a stock RTM install, but come to think of it it'd be pretty amazing if they hadn't fixed it by now... So you are probably right.

xkm1948Totally loving Windows 10 now. So much better than 8.1

there Fixed! ;)

the current driver installation preference is this
WHQL > vendor drivers
thats always been the case the only difference is that windows now checks for a WHQL driver by default
windows 7 will overwrite the currently installed driver with the WHQL one if you run the update from the device manager AND there is a newer WHQL Driver available

xkm1948Totally loving Windows 10 now. So much better than 7 and 8.1

Just to be fair and neutral, Win10 is basically Win8.1 + DirectX 12.0 + some tweaks + rebrand of IE crap with a new name + other software + Windows Updates with vague descriptions.... I've jumped from 7 to 10. For the most part, I haven't had any issues. I did run into the start button issue, but I fixed it. CClearner screwed it up during a registry fix and the powershell portion wasn't working properly.

JborgWindows 7 for me already boots completely in under 10 seconds....

My boot time is 5 seconds after post. Before that, it was around 10 seconds on Win7.

OneMoarthe current driver installation preference is this WHQL > vendor drivers thats always been the case the only difference is that windows now checks for a WHQL driver by default windows 7 will overwrite the currently installed driver with the WHQL one if you run the update from the device manager AND there is a newer WHQL Driver available

What do mean WHQL >Vendor drivers?
WHQL just means the driver has been submitted to MS and passed testing, Vendors always develop them, for example GPU drivers have to meet WDDM requirements to get WHQL.

Btw W7 checks for the most recent WHQL if the automatic option is used, when a new driver is installed the OS saves a copy to the repository.

lilhasselhofferSounds a lot like the Windows 10 hype...

It is here to say. People (with people I mean the bulk of avarage users in my vicinity) actually think it's cool.

Anyway bootup times are pretty uninteresting.

I refuse to update to Windows 10 because it crashes my SteelSeries engine 2.x, so can't properly use my Sensei pro mouse. It is Microsoft's fault, this driver is definitely not new.

AntykainStill on Windows 10 version 10586.3 atm here.. No update available yet on my end, but looking forward to seeing the improvements to an already pretty snappy Win10. I have read that the update is coming out in waves though. Hopefully that wave gets to me soon. :)

Edit: My bad.. 10586.3 is the new update version, which has been available to "Insiders" for a while now it seems. lol.

Yup, same here, been using version 10586.3 for awhile now. I haven't noticed any speed differences at all but one thing TH_2 update fixed was the annoying synaptic 2.0 driver issues with my razer keyboard and mouse. Its funny how when they have an update to fix certain problems or add/expand certain features they also bork other shitz like with this update all CPUID programs (GPU-Z, CPU-Z, HWMonitor) are automatically uninstalled b/c it says its incompatible with Windows 10, which is not true all I did was reinstall them and they all work fine.

And what's up with the random lockups!? They just happen out of the blue for no reason I can think of or debug. The mouse just turns into a "busy" icon, I can't click a single thing and the music just keeps on playing for quite a while (like it doesn't affect the stuff in buffers or something) until it just starts looping and then I have to hard reset. I've had this crap happening with Win10 on my old X58 platform and now on brand new X99 as well. It never happens in a game, just on desktop.

And I remember this happening on ALL Windows since WinXP. Vista, Win7, Win8, Win8.1 and now WIn10. But on all systems it fixed itself over time so I have zero clue what's causing it. Question is, why the hell is it happening in every single Windows release and I can't see to figure out why.

RejZoRAnd what's up with the random lockups!? They just happen out of the blue for no reason I can think of or debug. The mouse just turns into a "busy" icon, I can't click a single thing and the music just keeps on playing for quite a while (like it doesn't affect the stuff in buffers or something) until it just starts looping and then I have to hard reset. I've had this crap happening with Win10 on my old X58 platform and now on brand new X99 as well. It never happens in a game, just on desktop.

And I remember this happening on ALL Windows since WinXP. Vista, Win7, Win8, Win8.1 and now WIn10. But on all systems it fixed itself over time so I have zero clue what's causing it. Question is, why the hell is it happening in every single Windows release and I can't see to figure out why.

Had the same problem, shit was so frustrating. I stuck with it for about a week figuring it would fix itself but never did. Formatted and reinstall fresh OS fixed the problem for me.

What's with the assaults here?

If one does not like Win10, then go the hell away from this thread. Use your own preference.

In most usage patterns WIN10 is faster on lower end machine than 7 is for me and my hardware around me. And I have not found any serious software that cannot be run or misbehaves.

The seconds about those problems on certain hardware configs? Have you reported it? Using insider or on MSDN, asking your manufacturer etc? If not... blame yourself! Use raw and free Linux for a while and then blame M$ not doing something, M$ does a very fine job already. They are not magicians, they cannot guess every hardware config and see every bug especially if nobody really reports it to them.

Oh god I want to say something..... but I'll continue to bite my tongue.....

Still no ability to disable automatic updates though, the thing most asked for by the customers >.>

the only update i am getting is Defender Definitions :P
That said, if you have lots of hard drives and USB stuff your boot time isn't going down to 10 seconds... I once booted with nothing connected and then, yes, instant boot to desktop...

RejZoRIt's 2015, almost 2016 even, one would expect an OS released 3 months ago would work out of the box with UEFI board released 6 months ago...

The OS has nothing to do with it.
Fastboot requires a fully compatable UEFI GPU and mobo with UEFI boot enabled. U may have a 980 with hybrid bios or the board could be in legacy support mode, which is the default. I don't know...
So don't be snarky. :p

Got 10 on 2 machines now...don't see a reason to go back to 7. The UI and how the system handles stuff is so much more fluid than 7.

Privacy concerns are taken care of with Spybot Antibeacon. The clunky start menu done in by classicshell mod. Cortana and all the excess crap is disabled which is good.

The only major issues with 10...installing it. Neither install was problem or hassle free. In fact the worst has been my tower which was a mess of permission problems and compatibility issues. Took me hours to finally iron them out and the last issue was the Win10 installer taking ownership over my HD. So even if I was admin, it kept getting confused and either wanted all programs loading in admin mode or they'd just not open at all no matter what mode I'd put them in.

Course I read ahead before I installed to make sure I'd avoid issues but even then, this happened. So ultimately the greatest issue confronting a 7 user in the transition is just getting it to work.

Serpent of DarknessJust to be fair and neutral, Win10 is basically Win8.1 + DirectX 12.0 + some tweaks + rebrand of IE crap with a new name + +++

A little side note, but the Edge is not a rebrand, it is new browser.
It is, however, lacking some important things that other browsers have.

eddmanAre you certain it's a win 10 issue? It could be a BIOS/UEFI and/or chipset driver issue, not playing nice with windows 10.

Yes. It happens on my W10 machine too, and is THE number one issue with W10 on forums all over. You'd think they (MS) would have noticed by now.

Nice... I did get 2 seconds faster boot upon the update! :)

Thank god I just shut my sh1t off and never sleep/hibernate! No issues here!!!

EarthDogNice... I did get 2 seconds faster boot upon the update! :)

Thank god I just shut my sh1t off and never sleep/hibernate! No issues here!!!

Yeah, it was happening with regular shutdowns and startups too for most people. The best solution is to disable hiberfil, set power options to full in Windows, and then disable all the power-saving features in BIOS. With all this accomplished it has been the fix for 90% of the people. That's not a "fix" though, and obviously indicates something MS needs to work on.

I fixed it by accident I guess. I always run power options on full, and most power settings are disabled in the BIOS... makes sense I don't see it! :)

EasoA little side note, but the Edge is not a rebrand, it is new browser.
It is, however, lacking some important things that other browsers have.

I thought it was U2's lead guitarist?