john_Just pointed at, how people change there opinions based on which company did what. It is really something that I see it very often. For things that people will never give any excuses for AMD, will throw a dozen excuses when it will concern Nvidia or Intel. It is nothing strange to be fair. Once someone tried to prove to me that this is not the case. With his post proved all my points.

As for that old thread, the editorial, you did liked one post there(just do a quick search with your nickname in the first page, haven't checked the other pages, let's not be paranoid), so you did see that one, but you didn't participate. Never mind. No one can be at every post.

That is not true John. This site doesn't make excuses for Nvidia every time they screw up. Read through that post that you linked to and you will see a post from me reminding all of the people that think TPU kisses Nvidia's ass that when the GTX 970 fiasco came out the owner of this site, W1zzard, said that Nvidia lied to me and they lied to you about the specs. You can find it if you don't believe me. You will also see a post from the editor, btarunr, in that thread pointing out that TPU was all over Nvidia about the 970 and reporting it. Post #119

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/its-now-been-over-160-days-since-a-catalyst-whql-release.212724/page-5

You may be only remembering the bad that was said about AMD here at TPU and not the bad that was said about Nvidia.

If 70% of the TPU population is Nvidia biased, its because 70% of the population owns nvidia cards.

Technically i own a GTX 550 Ti, so i'm in both camps. yay!

john_Just pointed at, how people change there opinions based on which company did what. It is really something that I see it very often. For things that people will never give any excuses for AMD, will throw a dozen excuses when it will concern Nvidia or Intel. It is nothing strange to be fair. Once someone tried to prove to me that this is not the case. With his post proved all my points.

As for that old thread, the editorial, you did liked one post there(just do a quick search with your nickname in the first page, haven't checked the other pages, let's not be paranoid), so you did see that one, but you didn't participate. Never mind. No one can be at every post.

You pointed at ME, hence my response directly to you.

I don't see the point in this type of discussion... whether it was done "nice" or how you handled it... it only serves to start arguments.

I tried to search for myself in that thread, but it came up clean. I have no idea how to search for 'likes', but truth be told, I could care less. (EDIT: I lied, I looked post by post and didn't see one post that I liked. I could have missed it though...)

So tired of forums and their AMD/Intel/NVIDIA pissing matches. People need to grow up.

Anyhoo, I digress, and unsubscribe as this thread isn't going to do anything but spin its wheels...



EDIT: I received a PM showing me the post I liked. At this point some may think I would be chewing on my foot, however, the post I liked was #15 which was in response to W1zz being able to Alt+Tab out of a game with NVIDIA drivers. Go jump off a cliff John_... you are just starting trouble. :(

64KThat is not true John. This site doesn't make excuses for Nvidia every time they screw up. Read through that post that you linked to and you will see a post from me reminding all of the people that think TPU kisses Nvidia's ass that when the GTX 970 fiasco came out the owner of this site, W1zzard, said that Nvidia lied to me and they lied to you about the specs. You can find it if you don't believe me. You will also see a post from the editor, btarunr, in that thread pointing out that TPU was all over Nvidia about the 970 and reporting it. Post #119

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/its-now-been-over-160-days-since-a-catalyst-whql-release.212724/page-5

You may be only remembering the bad that was said about AMD here at TPU and not the bad that was said about Nvidia.

I didn't talked about TPU. I talked about people, and that editorial was one person's writing, not TPU's official statement. Where have I posted something about TPU as a site?
My opinion back then(if I remember correctly) was that editorials shouldn't be in the first page together with the news, because someone's opinion could end up as a fact. As news. And it did. Many sites took that editorial and the opinion that the absence of frequent WHQL drivers where a sign of AMD's decay as a fact. As for the 970 fiasco, it was so obvious that it would have been a risk to try and push Nvidia's press release as a good excuse, and many sites that did that, got very negative responses in their comment sections. Of course many insisted that 3.5+0.5GB memory is 4GB memory and that there was nothing to talk about.

EarthDogYou pointed at ME, hence my response directly to you.

I don't see the point in this type of discussion... whether it was done "nice" or how you handled it... it only serves to start arguments.

I tried to search for myself in that thread, but it came up clean. I have no idea how to search for 'likes', but truth be told, I could care less.

So tired of forums and their AMD/Intel/NVIDIA pissing matches. People need to grow up.

Anyhoo, I digress, and unsubcribe as this thread isn't going to do anything but spin its wheels...

Funny. In the other thread you quote me with an attitude "let me teach you something". Did I complained in the previous thread that YOU POINTED AT ME? But you have no problem coming here complaining about me quoting you. Maybe we have the right to quote you only when we agree with you? Maybe you should grow up and have the dignity to accept that other persons having another opinion or point of view than you, are not just immature persons.
As for searching, I guess pressing Ctrl+F is difficult.

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PS I am stopping it here. Sorry Mussels. I know that there is nothing more boring for a moderator than reading big posts(that also kill the English language)

Goddamnit - guys, be nice. Leave it be.

I don't know if this has been said before, but with regards to WHQL certification, I think they look at the driver package itself and not the installer.

Because clean installs solve it for some people, the problem is likely installer related and not a problem with the driver itself.

running v364.47 atm... still not getting a crash. Improvements over v362 is (ahem) quite close to nothing

Anyone else notice WHQL 364.51 just dropped?

MS blessed it. Installer fix is what I hear. Hopefully those this affected are fixed up if they decide to use this driver. :)

EarthDogMS blessed it. Installer fix is what I hear. Hopefully those this affected are fixed up if they decide to use this driver. :)

And as an added bonus I think we have got rid of nem as well, so all things considered... this storm in a teacup delivered.

xorbe... Madriva ...

Sorry, I meant Mandriva. RIP edit button. Hello +1 post count.

KarymidoNI am a new user of Nvidia, I have my 970 just over a year. before that always used AMD / ATI ... for about 3 years using AMD I never had problems or bugs due to drivers ... since I bought my first Nvidia already had at least three serious problems after driver updates. At least the performance and power consumption of the card is better, but in a matter of drivers nvidia is horrible.

I guess the only thing that matters is how many times particular anecdotal evidence is repeated. To make things worse, nobody can really check such claims.

Personally, I had "need to wipe the crap out" kind of problems with both manufacturers. Today I'm not that happy with how Crimson is handling HDMI, but then, it might be because of the actual spec (no TV is detected if it's switched off, and I'm using "game mode/DVI" on Samsung, whatever the fruck that does to it)

medi01and I'm using "game mode/DVI" on Samsung, whatever the fruck that does to it

It lowers latency by bypassing the internal circuits that TV has to enhance the video quality that is receiving through HDMI. This enhancing is probably good when displaying low quality video from a mediocre or bad video camera, it is catastrophic when the system sending the video is a PC, not only because of higher latency, but also because the final result is much worst picture quality. A PC is sending a perfect picture to the TV and when the TV tries to improve something that it is already perfect, it only manages to mess up the final picture.
I don't have problems with my Samsung and the HD 7850. Going from Catalyst to Crimson was mostly a UI change for me than anything else.

john_It lowers latency by bypassing the internal circuits that TV has to enhance the video quality that is receiving through HDMI.

"Game mode" is available on all ports, yet only HDMI 1 is marked as "HDMI/DVI".

And that's the only port where it is really working. If you enable game port while using that port I believe you will notice an instant change in quality(to the better). If you enable game mode in other ports you will notice no changes at all.

that kinda stuff varies between TV's, its not universal. Some of my TV's had one port better than the others, other TV's work the same on each port - my shitty 'thorn' brand 55" in the lounge can ID if any port is using DVI via a converter, or proper HDMI regardless of port.