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Intel Arc Battlemage Could Arrive Before Black Friday, Right in Time for Holidays
According to the latest report from ComputerBase, Intel had a strong presence at the recently concluded Embedded World 2024 conference. The company officially showcased its Arc series of GPUs for the embedded market, based on the existing Alchemist chips rebranded as the "E series." However, industry whispers hint at a more significant development—the impending launch of Intel's second-generation Arc Xe² GPUs, codenamed "Battlemage," potentially before the lucrative Black Friday shopping season. While Alchemist serves as Intel's current offering for embedded applications, many companies in attendance expressed keen interest in Battlemage, the successor to Alchemist. These firms often cover a broad spectrum, from servers and desktops to notebooks and embedded systems, necessitating a hardware platform that caters to this diverse range of applications.
Officially, Intel had previously stated that Battlemage would "hopefully" arrive before CES 2025, implying a 2024 launch. However, rumors from the trade show floor suggest a more ambitious target—a release before Black Friday, which falls on November 29th this year. This timeline aligns with Intel's historical launch patterns, as the original Arc A380 and notebook GPUs debuted in early October 2022, albeit with a staggered and limited rollout. Intel's struggles with the Alchemist launch serve as a learning experience for the company. Early promises and performance claims for the first-generation Arc GPUs failed to materialize, leading to a stuttering market introduction. This time, Intel has adopted a more reserved approach, avoiding premature and grandiose proclamations about Battlemage's capabilities.
Source:
ComputerBase.de
Officially, Intel had previously stated that Battlemage would "hopefully" arrive before CES 2025, implying a 2024 launch. However, rumors from the trade show floor suggest a more ambitious target—a release before Black Friday, which falls on November 29th this year. This timeline aligns with Intel's historical launch patterns, as the original Arc A380 and notebook GPUs debuted in early October 2022, albeit with a staggered and limited rollout. Intel's struggles with the Alchemist launch serve as a learning experience for the company. Early promises and performance claims for the first-generation Arc GPUs failed to materialize, leading to a stuttering market introduction. This time, Intel has adopted a more reserved approach, avoiding premature and grandiose proclamations about Battlemage's capabilities.
36 Comments on Intel Arc Battlemage Could Arrive Before Black Friday, Right in Time for Holidays
4090 is a more cut-down Ada than 3080 Ti is a cut-down Ampere. Much more so.
My point stands: 20 percent gen-to-gen FPS per $ improvement is bad, horrid, putrid, you name it. You can't justify it. The only reason why it is a thing is we don't have real competition. AMD do not try to compete (there was absolutely no reason to ask $1000 for a lame-ass 7900 XTX other than "oh these greens asked even more for their quote-unquote 4080." The market proved it: despite being cheaper, 7900 XTX was sold in 5+ times lesser numbers worldwide and it didn't affect NV SKU pricing whatsoever.). Not to mention AMD do still use Turing GPUs as their reference on the RDNA3 presentation slides. This alone proves they are just an ambient noise.
Intel try but they currently can't make NV sweat. Don't see how they will do it this or next year, yet fingers crossed they will. ...the Dro's point. He's talking 7900 XTX underperforms in general and by a lot. Tuned RDNA3 would've allowed for 96 CUs (7900 XTX) obliterating RTX 4080 in pure raster and maybe trailing behind in RT a tad but nothing all too crazy. And by obliteration, we mean 30+ percent difference, not these puny 3 to 15 % wins in AMD favouring games.
I also disagree on scaling being a real issue here. 7800 XT has 60 CUs, 7900 XTX has 96 CUs, and the latter is meant to be about 60 percent faster...
The problem isn't scaling. The problem is RDNA3 itself. It's underdelivering no matter how many CUs there is.
AD102 has 70% more shading power than AD103 and it's not even half as fast as you'd expect it to be, not even in RT workloads, it's obvious to me that between the two Ada is actually the one with much bigger architectural problems, it's actually comically bad if you think about it when you realize the 4090 doesn't even have a fully enabled AD102 chip. RDNA3 is doing alright.
Some might still wonder why there was no 4090ti, probably because it would most likely struggle to be even 5% faster than a 4090.
Ampere famously doubled FP32 performance as well and it obviously wasn't twice as fast, I do not recall "there is something very wrong with Ampere hur dur" comments at all, people just love clowning on AMD again for literally no reason.