TPU's Core i7 Overclocking and Feedback

[Binge]

That sort of thinking without even looking at the engineering is all we can do, and all we HAVE on these forums is these 70+ pages of i7 craziness, so that's why I suggest all newcomers to read what's been happening here. They might feel uncomfortable looking at some of the voltages we use. It's all TPU has. Start the thread about who killed what chip and at what voltage if you think it will help more.

No word back yet from DFI etc... and to Kid, I am not going to even consider asking Gigabyte because I know their voltage system can handle crazy overclocks, but they need to be hardware modded to account for vdroop. That is their board's only shortcoming.

 

[SystemViper]

bloodrage has been discontinued. haha... and you fuckers thought it was SOOOOOOOOO great.

dont take me wrong... its a good board but damn... nothing to jizz your pants over. it was short lived.


i have to RMA to DFI direct cause my board didnt come from a BIG company.

Just got the word from my Foxconn Guy and this is his Email to me when i asked him about that you said above...

hey steve,

yeah of course they arent discontinued, thats the same asus and giga bs
like foxconn stopping to build retail boards a couple of months back...
they try to keep customers from working with us by seeding rumors like that
: /

There was a big batch leaving the fab this week, no idea how long it takes
until some arrive in the us, but from the past shippments id say 2 weeks
roughly.
that batch is BR and BR GTi, so for a media center the GTi might be perfect
for you.

Oh and there is FlamingBlade coming soon, instead of adding even more
overkill features and making the boards even more expensive we figured we
try to pull x58 down into the mainstream.
The color design is the same as BR, pwms are more mainstream and still more
than enough, no sata, onboard sound, no force reset button, only 1 bios
chip, but the rest is the same and the bios will be almost identical to BR,
even the same voltage set etc
Flaming Blade will be around 200$, so it should be perfect for a media
center build... and it really looks nice man... thinking of this in a media
center is kinda a shame, unless it has a window or the whole case is out of
plexi hahah

Regards,

 

[Fitseries3]

ah.... you have good connections at foxconn then.

i wish evga would stop dicking me around.

 

[SystemViper]

yea, i can't wait to get a classified, those look so sweet and the PWM looks like it kills, plus those true pcie x16 lanes, woot!

 

[Wile E]

I have a different opinion about running 1.4v on the Yorkies, I have some that have been running for a long time with no degradation, i'm not saying it won't happen, but 1.4v isn't even extreem

Mine started to degrade at 1.42V after just 2 weeks on H20. My cpu loop has an MCP-350 w/a Bitspower minitank res top, Dtek Fuzion, GTX360 rad with medium Yate loons, and all Bitspower Fatboy fittings. Temps were not an issue. Many, MANY others have reported similar findings. The smaller the process, the more sensitive it all becomes to EM. Tweaks to the process can help matters to a degree, but 45nm will never be as durable as 65nm as far as voltage is concerned.

Short bench runs at higher voltages aren't likely to hurt it, but the possibility exists. It's still at your own risk.

And just so you know, those guys using LN2 for the extreme runs have to swap out their benching chips every so often due to degradation.

 

[Chicken Patty]

Mine started to degrade at 1.42V after just 2 weeks on H20. My cpu loop has an MCP-350 w/a Bitspower minitank res top, Dtek Fuzion, GTX360 rad with medium Yate loons, and all Bitspower Fatboy fittings. Temps were not an issue. Many, MANY others have reported similar findings. The smaller the process, the more sensitive it all becomes to EM. Tweaks to the process can help matters to a degree, but 45nm will never be as durable as 65nm as far as voltage is concerned.

Short bench runs at higher voltages aren't likely to hurt it, but the possibility exists. It's still at your own risk.

And just so you know, those guys using LN2 for the extreme runs have to swap out their benching chips every so often due to degradation.

after reading these last few pages, I don't wanna overclock my i7 anymore


Thats why I keep my daily settings of 4.0 GHz @ 1.317v. I can do 4.2 GHz stable for daily use, but it takes me 1.42v. Not worth the amount of voltage it takes to go from 4.0 to 4.2 GHz

 

[Fitseries3]

there is a reason things have warranties.

whether or not you use it is up to your.

 

[Chicken Patty]

there is a reason things have warranties.

whether or not you use it is up to your.

I have indeed ran my CPU at 1.57v under load for a couple of benches, no degration as it is. I guess some just get unlucky, run a bit of voltage once or twice and have a chip degrade considerably. Some of our CPU's might have degraded already to a minimal extent, and we don't see it.

 

[Fitseries3]

why you think i'm on my 4th chip?

some are better than others and SOME of them do have quirks.

i havent noticed any degration with i7 but i did on 775s

 

[Chicken Patty]

why you think i'm on my 4th chip?

some are better than others and SOME of them do have quirks.

i havent noticed any degration with i7 but i did on 775s

wow, i thought you were on your 2nd? Which batch of the ones you have used have you found to be the best?

so far this CPU seems to be running as strong as it has since I bought it. I imagine with the RAM that you are sending me how it should perform. RAM is better than my current one, and also I will use Tri channel for the first time on this X58 setup.

 

[PaulieG]

there is a reason things have warranties.

whether or not you use it is up to your.

No disrespect fit, but then it's an issues of ethics. Should we feel ok about RMA'ing a product that we technically abused? What this does is give Intel just one more justification to charge more for their chips, just like insurance companies.

Just out of curiosity Fit, does Intel require a receipt from the place of purchase when you RMA directly to them?

 

[Chicken Patty]

No disrespect fit, but then it's an issues of ethics. Should we feel ok about RMA'ing a product that we technically abused? What this does is give Intel just one more justification to charge more for their chips, just like insurance companies.

You know what, I haven't had to RMA anything before, thank god. Not saying I wouldn't have even if it's something I abused. Before this post I wouldn't have looked at it that way. But you are 100% correct.

that is a really good way to compare

 

[Fitseries3]

No disrespect fit, but then it's an issues of ethics. Should we feel ok about RMA'ing a product that we technically abused? What this does is give Intel just one more justification to charge more for their chips, just like insurance companies.

Just out of curiosity Fit, does Intel require a receipt from the place of purchase when you RMA directly to them?

but think about it...

you continue to pay your car insurance every month despite the fact that you get in an accident.

shouldn't you get SOMETHING out of it?

i mean come on...

some of us really fork over the cash for insurance.

i HIGHLY expect something in return.... and not just IN CASE i EVER get in an accident.

maybe im just a dick.

i have absolutely NO morals.... so yeah.

and NO... i have NEVER gotten asked for a receipt.... the ONE time i have EVER RMAed a cpu.

 

[SystemViper]

not if your driving recklessly and a get a ticket for it, so it's al;l about getting caught or your own personal morality

I asked that question on XS about 6 months ago, man it was a crazy thread...

 

[PaulieG]

but think about it...

you continue to pay your car insurance every month despite the fact that you get in an accident.

shouldn't you get SOMETHING out of it?

i mean come on...

some of us really fork over the cash for insurance.

i HIGHLY expect something in return.... and not just IN CASE i EVER get in an accident.

maybe im just a dick.

i have absolutely NO morals.... so yeah.

and NO... i have NEVER gotten asked for a receipt.... the ONE time i have EVER RMAed a cpu.

I see your point. I suppose at one point I shared your opinion. I think a bit differently now as a parent. I also see all kinds of abuse in my line of work. So many people abuse the Social Security/disability system, and everyone else pays for it. However, I know TPU is really not the place for an ethics debate. The reason I asked about the RMA is purely curiosity. What did you have to do for the RMA to Intel?

 

[SystemViper]

i dont drive wrecklessly... just aggressively.... but not stupidly.

like i said.... no morals at all. dont need them. they just hold you back from doing things.

im not saying im perfect, and i have done some stuff that ppl would think was wrong but i honestly dont have a problem with anything i've done.

life is what you make of it... not what people tell you it should be.

:shadedshu

 

[Fitseries3]

I see your point. I suppose at one point I shared your opinion. I think a bit differently now as a parent. However, I know TPU is really not the place for an ethics debate. The reason I asked about the RMA is purely curiosity. What did you have to do for the RMA to Intel?

um.... im a parent too.

intel RMA:

intel: how can i help you today?

Fit: i need to RMA my i7 920 cpu. it has stopped working.

intel: what have you done to verify this?

Fit: i have tested it in 2 known working motherboards and it wont power up in either.

intel: ok. i will create a RMA for you. can i get your address, all the info off the top of the cpu and a phone number to reach you at?

Fit: sure. _________________________________

intel: you have 2 options for RMA. 1. advanced RMA. you'll have to provide a credit card number which we will hold $300 on until the receipt of you cpu in return. we will then refund all but a $25 charge for the advanced RMA. option 2. is a standard RMA which you will send the cpu only to the address we provide and when they receive your shipment a replacement will be shipped to you via UPS and a tracking number will be provided to you. which method do you prefer?

Fit: standard RMA is fine with me.

intel: ok. i will be sending you an email shortly with all the info you will need to complete this RMA. is there anything else i can help you with today?

Fit: no. thanks.

intel: ok sir. thank you for choosing intel. have a nice day.

 

[PaulieG]

um.... im a parent too.

intel RMA:

intel: how can i help you today?

Fit: i need to RMA my i7 920 cpu. it has stopped working.

intel: what have you done to verify this?

Fit: i have tested it in 2 known working motherboards and it wont power up in either.

intel: ok. i will create a RMA for you. can i get your address, all the info off the top of the cpu and a phone number to reach you at?

Fit: sure. _________________________________

intel: you have 2 options for RMA. 1. advanced RMA. you'll have to provide a credit card number which we will hold $300 on until the receipt of you cpu in return. we will then refund all but a $25 charge for the advanced RMA. option 2. is a standard RMA which you will send the cpu only to the address we provide and when they receive your shipment a replacement will be shipped to you via UPS and a tracking number will be provided to you. which method do you prefer?

Fit: standard RMA is fine with me.

intel: ok. i will be sending you an email shortly with all the info you will need to complete this RMA. is there anything else i can help you with today?

Fit: no. thanks.

intel: ok sir. thank you for choosing intel. have a nice day.

Wow, you should get extra credit for the details here. I just always wondered if Intel wanted proof of purchase. As far as the ethics thing goes, I'm not one to judge or tell people how to behave. I just need to ask the question.

 

[SystemViper]

Got to love that Intel watentee

 

[Wile E]

If I blow up a normal chip from volt abusing it, I won't rma it. But you can bet your ass I'm RMAing my QX if it blows. It's marketed as an enthusiast's chip w/ OCing features, it's supposed to be OCed, IMO.

 

[Wile E]

Why in the hell would I stop if you offer to tell disturbing stories? lol.

Sounds more like fun to me.

 

[PaulieG]

this ends here.

if it doesnt stop im going to start telling disturbing stories until you guys stop.

talk about i7/x58 overclocking and benching.

LOL. Fair enough.

Why in the hell would I stop if you offer to tell disturbing stories? lol.

Sounds more like fun to me.

Wait, he has a point here. However, I'd be setting a bad example to promote this. LOL. So Fit, have you seen a major difference b/t the different batches of chips you've owned?

 

[SystemViper]

wow

 

[Fitseries3]

Why in the hell would I stop if you offer to tell disturbing stories? lol.

Sounds more like fun to me.

some ppl wont like them... or me after hearing them.

 

[freaksavior]

lol @ the RMA issues.

I broke a pin of a 478 once and told them i did it and they still gave me a new proc.

if i pushed insane volts through the chip and fried it i would try an RMA, if they said no, i would buy a new chip.