dx 11

[Easy Rhino]

so im looking at some dx 11 screenshots and thinking, "wow, these look amazing!" and then i realize i said the same thing about dx 10... well we havnt seen much dx 10 stuff that out there measured up to the promo screenshots. will this happen again?

 

[Reventon]

I don't understand the whole point in DX11 yet considering most games don't even utilize DX10.

 

[sneekypeet]

Meh we might get a half dozen to a full dozen or so DX11 titles. Thats my guess. Seems like DX12 would be out in another two years, so the game writers dont have a whole lot of time once the code is released.

 

[Easy Rhino]

i'm guessing we have another Crysis game that only a $3000 rig can play and by the time everyone can play it dx 12 will be out

 

[erocker]

Developers didn't like DX10, no one is going to utilize it. DX11 will hopefully be a different story. Just be thankful your DX10 cards ran DX9 games well.

 

[HellasVagabond]

DX 11 sample cards from NVIDIA and ATI are already out so i would expect DX11 games in early 2010 although i dont think we will see many.

 

[MKmods]

It would be funny to see what of the worlds comps are using, DX7, 8, 9 and 10 comps.....
(I bet the % of DX10 comps are less than .0001)

The marketeers are laughing so hard at us....

 

[sneekypeet]

DX 11 sample cards from NVIDIA and ATI are already out so i would expect DX11 games in early 2010 although i dont think we will see many.

Sort of the same idea as what went down with DX10 isnt it. Werent cards on the scene before the games then too?

Just seems like a huge loop of hype to me

 

[Reventon]

It would be funny to see what of the worlds comps are using, DX7, 8, 9 and 10 comps.....
(I bet the % of DX10 comps are less than .0001)

Actually you'd be surprised. I wouldn't find it odd to see maybe 1%-1.5% of US computers using DX10 cards. Maybe less like .8%, but not .0001%

 

[MKmods]

Thats why I mentioned the "worlds".. we sometimes forget we are just a small part of it..

(personally of the hundreds of comps I sold to friends only 3 have DX10)

 

[HellasVagabond]

Sort of the same idea as what went down with DX10 isnt it. Werent cards on the scene before the games then too?

Just seems like a huge loop of hype to me

Well its not just games, Windows 7 should have certain 3D optimisations due to DX11 and that should make a system run them a bit faster.

 

[sneekypeet]

Well its not just games, Windows 7 should have certain 3D optimisations due to DX11 and that should make a system run them a bit faster.

Agreed, but is it worth the swap for more basic OS pretties? Dont get me wrong I will most likely own one soon, but I dont know how much its going to be worth it for me to spend anything yet.

 

[erocker]

Stream processing through Windows 7 is going to be a big plus of DX11. If DX11 is even repsonsible for that.

 

[KainXS]

when I think of Direct X 10 I think it deserved to fail, it was just microsofts way of trying to get people to buy an incomplete OS that they kinda completed with SP1 but still saw it was not gonna get much farther and changed to windows 7, which is nothing but a revamp, but will be worth the money, where as vista at launch before the service packs definitely wasn't.

Direct X 10 did not bring many new features to the table either it was a spit shine, Direct X 11 adds many many more features, it will be worth it.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I just got a game called Necrovision,which has a dx10 "mode".It does look pretty in the dx10 dode.

 

[Reventon]

Thats why I mentioned the "worlds".. we sometimes forget we are just a small part of it..

(personally of the hundreds of comps I sold to friends only 3 have DX10)

Even then it's probably about .01%. Granted that's very few indeed.

 

[HellasVagabond]

DirectX is responsible to accelerate most things hardware based and not just the GPU....So yes we should see performance increases across the board with Windows 7. That aside, is it worth the extra cash ? Considering we are all hardware freaks i would say yes

And DX10 brought many things on the table, just look Crysis with DX9 and with DX10, the differences are plenty, not HUGE but plenty.

 

[Kursah]

I'm hoping DX11 ends up being a solid API that is a better value for Devs to use, I also hope there's not a premium for DX11 cards (yeah right lol!). But even today DX9 is still much more widely used and supported, DX10 has grown a lot, and has brought some good to the table, not all they promised, but hey...noone brings everything they hype to the table, at least initially. But as anything, it's a new, up and coming technology that is intended to improve our gaming/multimedia experiences and take things to the next level so I am somewhat interested by it. But by no means do I believe it will make DX9 or DX10 hardware obselete or useless, and is there a point to waiting for DX11 hardware? My thoughts are no...get something that performs good now if you need it, or wait for something that falls in your budget from the next gen, DX11 or not.

I hope it's good, I also recently posted my thoughts on DX11 here, but I figured I'd add my 2 cents here because I think that there are many (at least how I read it) expecting DX11 to be the end-all of API's, and imo there's no way that's gonna happen, at least for a good couple years or more. Again I'm interested in actually seeing it in action, I could care less about screenies or hype at this point, make it something useful and more widely used and supported, it'll do well, make it too proprietary and too needy on hardware without as much benefits as expected, it'll fail..no matter how many want to believe in it.

My other thoughts: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=1421144#post1421144

 

[KainXS]

so im guessing nobody knows windows 7 supports dx11, cause it does fully support it

 

[Kursah]

so im guessing nobody knows windows 7 supports dx11, cause it does fully support it

DX11 won't make anything obselete imo, hell it might be out on the 7 OS, and eventually Vista, ...

Nope, not a clue. (quoted from link provided above).

It might fully support it, but what is out game-wise that fully supports 11? How long did it take to even get a slightly decent game library to support DX10? Even DX9 wasn't instant. That and if DX10 hardware has shown us anything, we might be better off making any kind of a deal out of it at the 2nd or 3rd generation of DX11 GPU's instead of the first. Sure the R600 and G80 were good chips, anything below that sucked at DX10 back then, doesn't mean that's the way it'll go now, but history has been known to repeat itself.

Good that 7 has 11, hell I DXDiag reads my DX as 10.1 even though I have 10 compliant hardware, as long as my games play great and look good I don't necessarily care atm. I go more for performance whether or not it's the next greatest thing, if that next greatest thing is actually out and supported and plays well with what I have, sweet, if not...DX9 is still #1 and DX10 plays nice n' smooth.

 

[PP Mguire]

DirectX 11 brings what DX10 failed to bring. Single .exe for both 10 and 11. So no, it wont fail like 10 because developers dont have to code for 2 different api's.

 

[ste2425]

will dx10 cards be able to run dx11 games? im guessing not in dx11 mode so to speak though

 

[PP Mguire]

Itll be the same as now

 

[scope54]

from my understanding, if a developer codes for dx11, doing everything to spec, and you get the game that the developer made then the dx11 code will look at what your card can do and will turn on those features for that version of DX. example: I start playing UBER CARNAGE which is coded specifically for DX11, but i still only have my outdated HD3870, so now the game will run at DX10.1 spec.

 

[CrackerJack]

Yeah i can't wait to see some game with 11

AMAZING!!!