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[TheMailMan78]

Isn't the cost of doing business for a company like Activision cost more in the UK than say the US due to these regulations and such?

I would guess so. However I don't know if its to the extent that they are charging for.

 

[erocker]

I would guess so. However I don't know if its to the extent that they are charging for.

That's what I'm trying to find out. Why is it more expensive in the UK?

 

[DrPepper]

Thus you have super high prices on some goods. I would guess. I'm not stating fact but assumption.

Isn't the cost of doing business for a company like Activision cost more in the UK than say the US due to these regulations and such?

It is also we have a higher VAT I believe as well. What alot of people here don't factor in is that our healthcare is free as is alot of other things which kinda balances it out. Public healthcare is quite good and private isn't much better. I love the military health care though its fantastic compared to the NHS.

Anyway in the UK prices are alot higher than in the US and house prices are also much higher here than in the states.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Prices will rise again for people in the UK if David Cameron comes into power - the conservative party havent ruled out charging 20% VAT - we already pay 17.5% on everything here & thats 1 of the reasons why everything is so expensive in the UK. so when people say 'inflation' Europeans/British people are 1 of the first people to moan because they will be affected by it directly.

you can sit there at your desk & say to me if i dont like it here then why dont I move? but moving doesnt change the country - it will stay this way whether i stay here or not.

 

[erocker]

It is also we have a higher VAT I believe as well. What alot of people here don't factor in is that our healthcare is free as is alot of other things which kinda balances it out. Public healthcare is quite good and private isn't much better. I love the military health care though its fantastic compared to the NHS.

Anyway in the UK prices are alot higher than in the US and house prices are also much higher here than in the states.

Ok, so free healthcare is one reason things are more expensive. So what's with the complaints about things being more expensive? Is it the fault of a business selling goods or is it the fault of the government. Or, is it just the fact that people want all these things and not have to pay for them?

Prices will rise again for people in the UK if David Cameron comes into power - the conservative party havent ruled out charging 20% VAT - we already pay 17.5% on everything here & thats 1 of the reasons why everything is so expensive in the UK. so when people say 'inflation' Europeans/British people are 1 of the first people to moan because they will be affected by it directly.

you can sit there at your desk & say to me if i dont like it here then why dont I move? but moving doesnt change the country - it will stay this way whether i stay here or not.

So are there any plans to change your government? Is it universal that everyone in the UK is pissed that they have to pay so much to the government and or extra money to companies for thier goods due to government regulation?

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Ok, so free healthcare is one reason things are more expensive. So what's with the complaints about things being more expensive? Is it the fault of a business selling goods or is it the fault of the government. Or, is it just the fact that people want all these things and not have to pay for them?

Its because the goverment keeps upping the rate of taxes but our salaries never change to make ends meet. thats why we complain. the NHS care might be free but their not perfect. they have been slammed by the press so many times its laughable. yet part of our salary goes to fund their organisations/trusts.

 

[DrPepper]

Ok, so free healthcare is one reason things are more expensive. So what's with the complaints about things being more expensive? Is it the fault of a business selling goods or is it the fault of the government. Or, is it just the fact that people want all these things and not have to pay for them?

I'm not complaining about the price of a game. I'd complain if it was an essential but its not. Personally I like the way the country is atm although we aren't doing too well economically even before the recession :shadedshu

 

[erocker]

I'm not complaining about the price of a game. I'd complain if it was an essential but its not. Personally I like the way the country is atm although we aren't doing too well economically even before the recession :shadedshu

Ok, but are you not doing well economically due to what? I'm again guessing by regulation. Too many rules dictating whether you can actually make good money.

 

[DrPepper]

Ok, but are you not doing well economically due to what? I'm again guessing by regulation. Too many rules dictating whether you can actually make good money.

Yeah thats it. I was agreeing with you but don't think I actually but that into words.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

So are there any plans to change your government? Is it universal that everyone in the UK is pissed that they have to pay so much to the government and or extra money to companies for thier goods due to government regulation?

there are currently no plans to change the goverment. & in any case bringing in a new goverment will just sink us to a new low with increased tax's & VAT. so thats not a good idea at the moment

 

[erocker]

there are currently no plans to change the goverment. & in any case bringing in a new goverment will just sink us to a new low with increased tax's & VAT. so thats not a good idea at the moment

Planning for some good ol' fashined reform would be a good idea. Streamline the government, cut waste, cut useless beurocratic positions, cut unecessary projects that take in more money than it puts out, etc. Easier said than done, this is the case for the US as well.

 

[DrPepper]

Planning for some good ol' fashined reform would be a good idea. Streamline the government, cut waste, cut useless beurocratic positions, cut unecessary projects that take in more money than it puts out, etc. Easier said than done, this is the case for the US as well.

Don't forget bigger boats for the me

 

[erocker]

Don't forget bigger boats for the me

Aye aye Cap'n! Nothing wrong with our taxes going to those who protect us.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Planning for some good ol' fashined reform would be a good idea. Streamline the government, cut waste, cut useless beurocratic positions, cut unecessary projects that take in more money than it puts out, etc. Easier said than done, this is the case for the US as well.

we do - we need to wipe the slate clean & start again, but the fact is both parties/candidates that are running for election are too deeply embedded in sleaze & underhanded sneakmeister tactics to be honest about what their doing & over the years thats been one of the major things that has brought this great country to ruins - because positions of power are being abused at the tax payers expense

 

[mikek75]

Its Labour that has put us into the financial mess we are in today with over ambitious public spending and extra tiers of government. The Conservatives have always aimed for lower taxes, but its quite concievable that some taxes will have to increase in order to try and dig us out of the huge debt that Labour have got us into (along with the fact that Gordon Brown sold a large chunk of the countries gold reserves).

 

[erocker]

we do - we need to wipe the slate clean & start again, but the fact is both parties/candidates that are running for election are too deeply embedded in sleaze & underhanded sneakmeister tactics to be honest about what their doing & over the years thats been one of the major things that has brought this great country to ruins - because positions of power are being abused at the tax payers expense

Here too bud, we are just a little behind you guys. In about a years time we'll be throwing money at our government just as much with every signature of Obama's pen. What are you going to do when the majority of people vote for these people.

 

[DrPepper]

Aye aye Cap'n! Nothing wrong with our taxes going to those who protect us.

Speaking of new ships im dying to go out on our new type 45's.

we do - we need to wipe the slate clean & start again, but the fact is both parties/candidates that are running for election are too deeply embedded in sleaze & underhanded sneakmeister tactics to be honest about what their doing & over the years thats been one of the major things that has brought this great country to ruins - because positions of power are being abused at the tax payers expense

Yeah we need a massive reshuffle of the seats of power. Currently the PM doesn't have enough power to respond quickly to incidents. Just through age the system has become corrupt and abused. I get the feeling that our politicians are in it for personal gain and not to improve our country.

 

[MilkyWay]

The guy said it was going to not just be a European price increase it would be all over the world so however long it takes it will happen maybe not with the next few games in every region but later on i bet next year it will start to become apparent.

They mock us with jokes about increasing prices further totally inconsiderate in an economic climate like this.

We are stupid okay we silently moan about things but never do anythign about it thats the British way! In America its a social thing prices have to be low and quantity has to be high aka all you can eat cheap fuel (gas/petrol diesel) ect

Its not just us wanting shit for free because if it was prices wouldn't be so high that is obvious.

You know what im 18 i go to college and i cant afford games at £55! Im not buying them at that price, compared to other products that is a high price i mean what else could i get for £55 or for a little more i could get such and such that is better value overall. Whatever you say wont change the fact its to expensive for what it is and people like me wont accept that.

If it wasnt a game and it was gas people would be all in a huff, kinda stupid isnt it? does it matter really if its a game or not because its the same situation.

Your just assuming its due to regulation, all the Americans do.

I love living in Scotland i think its a fair and nice place to live, SAFE and friendly for the most part. You cant change our government, anyway reform what type of reform, labour invented the welfare state in Britain we are a nation that based ourself on that you cant change that to match the US ideals.

They are trying to charge to much and its unacceptable. IF they suddenly started charging £5 for Chewing Gum i could afford it sure but it would be expensive for what it is and i wouldnt buy it.

Aye aye Cap'n! Nothing wrong with our taxes going to those who protect us.

You havnt even been invaded ONCE. Attacked yes by a terrorist cell, but not invaded by a nation

EH and stop spamming the thread it was originally about Activison increasing games prices.

 

[mikek75]

The native Americans were invaded big time don't forget,LOL

 

[DrPepper]

You havnt even been invaded ONCE. Attacked yes by a terrorist cell, but not invaded by a nation

Have you seen there defence budget I'm not surprised they haven't been invaded.

 

[Easy Rhino]

Do you know how long it took for lets say a Sony PS2/PS3 to drop in price in the UK/Europe-in-general???

because unless you lived in Europe for at least a year or more - you wont know or understand how it feels to the people who have no choice but to accept that thats how things are.

just because you can have 30% pricecuts on a ton of stuff in the USA doesnt mean that the same thing will instantly happen or happen at all in the UK. cost of living here alone is already expensive & since the economy went up shit creak everything else like food, groceries & general consumables also went up in price in a lot of places. & they stayed up till famlies/people started cutting back & trying to save money, followed by house reposessions that were up 70% because the banks were sinking & they were trying to recover their money...did they care that Mr blogs had 3 kids & a wife living in the house? no they didnt care at all - & it wasnt until all that happend then major retailers/grocery stores/supermarkets decided to help out by lowering the cost of everyday consumerbles like milk & eggs etc etc.


so dont think you know everything just because you live in the US because it dont work that way


Prices WONT officially go down for a lot of people & if they did then that would be up to the store owners disgression.

well you do not have a right to a ps3 or any video game. you cannot demand that they charge a lower price simply because you cannot pay for it. you can only pay what you wish to pay. software companies and all companies are not your slaves in which they create a product and price it at your discretion.

 

[erocker]

The guy said it was going to not just be a European price increase it would be all over the world so however long it takes it will happen maybe not with the next few games in every region but later on i bet next year it will start to become apparent.

They mock us with jokes about increasing prices further totally inconsiderate in an economic climate like this.

We are stupid okay we silently moan about things but never do anythign about it thats the British way! In America its a social thing prices have to be low and quantity has to be high aka all you can eat cheap fuel (gas/petrol diesel) ect

Its not just us wanting shit for free because if it was prices wouldn't be so high that is obvious.

You know what im 18 i go to college and i cant afford games at £55! Im not buying them at that price, compared to other products that is a high price i mean what else could i get for £55 or for a little more i could get such and such that is better value overall. Whatever you say wont change the fact its to expensive for what it is and people like me wont accept that.

If it wasnt a game and it was gas people would be all in a huff, kinda stupid isnt it? does it matter really if its a game or not because its the same situation.

Your just assuming its due to regulation, all the Americans do.

I love living in Scotland i think its a fair and nice place to live, SAFE and friendly for the most part. You cant change our government, anyway reform what type of reform, labour invented the welfare state in Britain we are a nation that based ourself on that you cant change that to match the US ideals.

They are trying to charge to much and its unacceptable. IF they suddenly started charging £5 for Chewing Gum i could afford it sure but it would be expensive for what it is and i wouldnt buy it.



You havnt even been invaded ONCE.

EH and stop spamming the thread it was originally about Activison increasing games prices.

I suggest you not bother posting in your own thread anymore. Nobody is saying you are stupid. No one is mocking you. You are taking things way too personally and the rest of us here are partaking in a civil and polite discussion. Nobody is spamming your thread. We are trying to get to the root of why prices are going up. Yeah, we could all just come in here and post "this is bullshit, that is bullshit" but what good is that? Yeah, stuff is getting expensive and it sucks. Let's figure out why. What does getting "invaded" have to do with anything? It doesn't, you are losing your focus. Please don't turn this into a x country vs. x country ordeal.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

Well fuck that!!! $85-$90 bullshit I boycott that price
I preordered for $60 Yeah

 

[KainXS]

The guy said it was going to not just be a European price increase it would be all over the world so however long it takes it will happen maybe not with the next few games in every region but later on i bet next year it will start to become apparent.

They mock us with jokes about increasing prices further totally inconsiderate in an economic climate like this.

We are stupid okay we silently moan about things but never do anythign about it thats the British way! In America its a social thing prices have to be low and quantity has to be high aka all you can eat cheap fuel (gas/petrol diesel) ect

Its not just us wanting shit for free because if it was prices wouldn't be so high that is obvious.

You know what im 18 i go to college and i cant afford games at £55! Im not buying them at that price, compared to other products that is a high price i mean what else could i get for £55 or for a little more i could get such and such that is better value overall. Whatever you say wont change the fact its to expensive for what it is and people like me wont accept that.

If it wasnt a game and it was gas people would be all in a huff, kinda stupid isnt it? does it matter really if its a game or not because its the same situation.

Your just assuming its due to regulation, all the Americans do.

I love living in Scotland i think its a fair and nice place to live, SAFE and friendly for the most part. You cant change our government, anyway reform what type of reform, labour invented the welfare state in Britain we are a nation that based ourself on that you cant change that to match the US ideals.

They are trying to charge to much and its unacceptable. IF they suddenly started charging £5 for Chewing Gum i could afford it sure but it would be expensive for what it is and i wouldnt buy it.

does it matter, at the end of the day, everyone gets screwed one way or another, I mean, I live knowing that my government reaches in my pockets and bitchslaps me everyday in taxes, hell, your better off, your governement isn't retarded like ours.

this isn't a battle of the countries you know.

 

[MilkyWay]

well you do not have a right to a ps3 or any video game. you cannot demand that they charge a lower price simply because you cannot pay for it. you can only pay what you wish to pay. software companies and all companies are not your slaves in which they create a product and price it at your discretion.

slaves? i can afford games i think its highway robbery charging £55 for a game its far to expensive and its not really for any reason that they are increasing prices

i cant afford a nice expensive car right but those are justified prices for what they are i dont expect to be able to buy one

if volksvagen decided to charge £100,000 for a golf i would be like WTF? that is the same price as a sports car or whatever, when every other hatchback was around £10,000 i would be like why charge so much?

its not a fucking right never said it was i keep saying its blind robbery, taking advantage of consumers


im not buying there games simple no shit you can say will make me buy em end of discussion

 

[KainXS]

cool down man just cool down,

we all know its wrong so theres no point in arguing,

 

[erocker]

its not a fucking right never said it was i keep saying its blind robbery, taking advantage of consumers


im not buying there games simple no shit you can say will make me buy em end of discussion

Consumers are free to make their own decisions. Nobody is making you buy anything and you are doing the right thing by not buying an overpriced product. If more people do the same as you, the company charging too much will get the point.

 

[MilkyWay]

I suggest you not bother posting in your own thread anymore. Nobody is saying you are stupid. No one is mocking you. You are taking things way too personally and the rest of us here are partaking in a civil and polite discussion. Nobody is spamming your thread. We are trying to get to the root of why prices are going up. Yeah, we could all just come in here and post "this is bullshit, that is bullshit" but what good is that? Yeah, stuff is getting expensive and it sucks. Let's figure out why. What does getting "invaded" have to do with anything? It doesn't, you are losing your focus. Please don't turn this into a x country vs. x country ordeal.

Your the guy who started to derail the thread, it was never about governments it was Activisons idea.

If it was some quasi government or economic reasons it would effect more than one game company.

People where mocking me i asked them to stop? Whats so wrong with that. People cant treat me with respect so i ask them too.
Dont bother telling me how to react or feel i dont tell you to make a sad face at a funeral

 

[MilkyWay]

Consumers are free to make their own decisions. Nobody is making you buy anything and you are doing the right thing by not buying an overpriced product. If more people do the same as you, the company charging too much will get the point.

So whats the point in the big argument?