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Ubisoft's new uncrackable, intrusive, and annoying DRM cracked in under 24 hours...

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Lost the DRM and got a shitload of bad publicity. Heck, I am one of the people who was really looking forward to SH5 and I buy my games, but I am not shelling ANY money out for something with this idiotic protection scheme.

I do not mind the milder DRMs, they are a hassle, they are annoying, but they are usable. But if my internet goes down (Which given Israel's cable company is twice a week), the only thing my computer is good for is gaming. If I cannot game without a 100% stable internet connection, then the game simply isn't for me.
 
Phxprovost said:
this is what i dont understand, why would my copy be legit one minute then pirated the next?:confused: This isnt like PB making sure your not hacking...its making sure the game that was legit 4 seconds ago is still legit.......:wtf: wtf? I see absolutely no reason for it to have to be connected 24/7 other then to royally piss off the people who buy the game. I swear companies are doing this shit on purpose just so it gets cracked and pirated to hell so they can turn around to their investors with a valid reason to leave the pc market behind........you wait and see
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The same reason your Windows copy can be legit one minute, then pirated the next. It all comes down to when the key/copy is flagged as being pirated. With re-authentication, if the servers start recieving a bunch of requests for re-authentication from different machines, they flag the key/copy as pirated, and the next time the game re-authenticates, it fails and locks the pirate out.

mdsx1950 said:
Lol too bad for Ubi. Piracy will NEVER stop. So companies might as well stop wasting time and money on copy protection etc lol.
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You, as do most, miss the point of DRM. The companies know whatever DRM they use, it will be broken rather quickly. However, copy protection in games is designed to slow casual pirates down, not stop hardcore hackers. Of course the line between the casual pirates and the hardcore hackers gets a little blurrier every day...
 
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newtekie1 said:
The companies know whatever DRM they use, it will be broken rather quickly. However, copy protection in games is designed to slow casual pirates down, not stop hardcore hackers. Of course the line between the casual pirates and the hardcore hackers gets a little blurrier every day...
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Yes, especially when you take in account the number of things you have to do to hack the game, extracting, mounting, installing, cracking, well this can really slow the rate it gets pirated cause not everyone will have the time and knowledge to to all that.
 
Pirates - 1

Legitimate owner - 0

They (Ubisoft/EA + more) will never learn. :shadedshu
 
Interesting...
 
the crack was out before we could buy it here in Au...


... and my housemate with the legit game is thinking about cracking it, so a net outage wont F his game up.
 
buy the original, play the pirate!
 
assaulter_99 said:
Yes, especially when you take in account the number of things you have to do to hack the game, extracting, mounting, installing, cracking, well this can really slow the rate it gets pirated cause not everyone will have the time and knowledge to to all that.
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It isn't really a matter of knowledge of how to do all that, but rather the knowledge to find the tools require, particularly where to find the actual downloads.

There are a great number of my friends that would not have their pirated games if it wasn't for me knowing where to find the downloads and getting the games for them. For the most part, if they can't use the same CD to install it on multiple computers, and run it, they give up.
 
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It isn't really a matter of knowledge of how to do all that, but rather the knowledge to find the tools require, particularly where to find the actual downloads.
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indeed.

Download image (or rar files, which is a one click extract)
mount image
install
copy-paste crack files


This has not changed in many years, and is... hell, my mum could do it if i gave her instructions.

The thing is, finding downloads doesnt really matter - everyone has a mate or work buddy they ask to do it for them - he does the work, hands them a DVD and everyone is happy. one downloader can then share it to tens, if not hundreds of people (more if he goes to LAN events)


LAN events are big on piracy, especially these days when you need net to play games... even the legit owners have to crack their games just to play them offline.
 
Mussels said:
LAN events are big on piracy, especially these days when you need net to play games... even the legit owners have to crack their games just to play them offline.
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Oh for sure, I know people that go to LAN events not to actually play games with everyone else, but simply to pirate as much as possible. This includes games, movies, and music...

And most of the servers in the server sections don't host a single game the entire event.:laugh:
 
when will they learn...
 
Thrackan said:
Which is exactly why I didn't get more into it.
Let's just say I've seen, and heard, too many bad, stupid, ignorant and stubborn things concerning French, or French speaking, people.

The fact that you do speak decent English makes up for a lot though :)
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French quebecer here as well...
Basing your opinion on the few French speaking people that you heard is definitely better, right?
P.S. French Canadians (Quebeque) and French from Frances are completely different.

On topic, glad they cracked that DRM so fast. Freaking UBI needs to get their shit together and concentrate on actually making decent games.
 
I liked activating the game online with D2D. I felt secure. However, the game I bought (CoJ) wasn't exactly innovative so I didn't play it again despite the second install.
 
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They should just stop using DRM. Period. The farthest thing I can legitimately see is CD keys, because in the age we live in now it's really easy to download a copy of a game, but CD keys kinda render that copy half-useless if you care to play online at all. Disc checks and all this other bullshit DRM that has surfaced in the past couple years is nothing but an annoyance to legitimate owners... it just gets cracked anyways.
 
CD keys that are single use and locked into an account for you, is all that should be needed. Steams system is a working example of this... some hate steam, but its a perfect example of how DRM can be done without totally screwing you over (excluding some games not working in offline mode)
 
Mussels said:
CD keys that are single use and locked into an account for you, is all that should be needed. Steams system is a working example of this... some hate steam, but its a perfect example of how DRM can be done without totally screwing you over (excluding some games not working in offline mode)
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Not realy working, considering every major steam game is available in pirated form...steam games are actually insanely easy to crack.

As I prefer a physical disc anyway, for the games that I do buy, I don't like steam all that much. I don't really see any reasoning against a CD check for games that have a physical CD. I also don't see a reasoning against online activation either.
 
pirated isnt the point - the point was that its DRM that doesnt fuck over legitimate users.
 
Mussels said:
pirated isnt the point - the point was that its DRM that doesnt fuck over legitimate users.
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I haven't really seen any disc checks fucking over legit users, short of requiring the CD to be in the drive.

And of course, steam has the horrible disadvantage of fucking over the legitimate user if they want to play a game they own that isn't install, but don't have an internet connection...wait isn't that one of the big complaints about the DRM Ubisoft is using...:shadedshu
 
Well, I like the idea they cracked it. PC gamers like myself don't have an internet connection to their PC. I usually buy all my games, but it is hell to find a buddy or business that will let you lug your rig in just to activate a game:shadedshu That makes for really awkward moments. They're looking at you like have you lose you phucking mind?!!
 
USB key is the better way it's been used for VBS1 and now VBS2 for years. All though that g is shit hot expensive but don't know if thats due to the USB key though.

Ya just plug it in when you want to play that game. But i'm sure that would not be all that good if every company used it.

In the end there is no way to stop piracy only to stop people from buying your game.
 
This is why PC games are released months later than console games. Maybe one day they will scrap the PC market and just focus on the console games.
 
vbx said:
This is why PC games are released months later than console games. Maybe one day they will scrap the PC market and just focus on the console games.
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Maybe, but preferably and probably not entirely. As long as there's money in it, it's going to be there.
 
vbx said:
This is why PC games are released months later than console games. Maybe one day they will scrap the PC market and just focus on the console games.
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You mean only PS3 right? Because X360 is already cracked and having tons of pirated games :laugh:
 
and if all the good games come out on the PS3, then the PS3 will end up with cracks made for it as well...


pirates go where the demand is.
 
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