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Are we Alone?

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W1zzard said:
according to all the physics that we know and that are not contradicted by any experiments known to man you need more energy than is available in the universe to build a warp drive, and also negative energy which doesnt exist.
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It effectively is no Warp drive, as you dont enter a hypothetical "fifth dimension", but rather stay within this one.
You could rather compare it to a gravitation repellant, force field technology, just with the addition, that the centrepoint and amount of gravitational "pull",within the bubble, can be determined by the crafts engine, so you effectively make it "fall forward", and that,at an incredible Speed.
IDK if you can travel FTL with it...but i doubt it. i just know that these things have no problems to move in our solar system, but that they need gravitational energy to keep their engines running. So maybe more a bit, like a locally bound puddle jumper;)
 
Velvet Wafer said:
It effectively is no Warp drive, as you dont enter a hypothetical "fifth dimension", but rather stay within this one.
You could rather compare it to a gravitation repellant, force field technology, just with the addition, that the centrepoint and amount of gravitational "pull",within the bubble, can be determined by the crafts engine, so you effectively make it "fall forward", and that,at an incredible Speed.
IDK if you can travel FTL with it...but i doubt it. i just know that these things have no problems to move in our solar system, but that they need gravitational energy to keep their engines running. So maybe more a bit, like a locally bound puddle jumper;)
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Is there a chance they are cats from the future?

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I think its pretty obvious. They are already here IMO.
 
W1zzard said:
according to all the physics that we know and that are not contradicted by any experiments known to man you need more energy than is available in the universe to build a warp drive, and also negative energy which doesnt exist.
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You are definitely right about the energy requirements of the Alcubierre drive* however negative energy has been hypothesized using the Casimir effect to generate an area of negative mass.

If the predictions of m/string theory are ever confirmed then, in theory, we could steal the energy from gravity leaked into other dimensions to create Higgs particles which we then use to create anti-matter for use in our energy storage system. While we're doing that we'd also probably have a talk with god about how we really didn't need him/her anymore. :roll:

*I am not presently aware of any other theoretical "warp" drives.
 
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TheMailMan78 said:
I was being serious. If you look at a cats face and the accepted face of a "
grey" they are one in the same. Maybe even human cat hybrids from the future.

Ill do some brutal photochoppin to show you. Gimme a minute.

Edit: Here. This is what I am talking about.
http://img.techpowerup.org/110516/evo.jpg
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Greys come in a heap of forms, maybe not as versatile as humans looks are, but they can look very different, dependant on where they come from...
May it be Bellatrax, Orion,Zeta Reticuli, or others...some are not even directly Greys, but rather Hybrids of Greys and other Races... it seems they have a general lack of Operators,as due to Aeons of cloning, their bodies are mere Hulls, inable to reproduce themselves.
Their flawed cloning technique also seems to have damaged the reproduction process of new hulls, as the speed of decay is constantly rising, from generation to generation.
Oh, and then, there was the problem, that the biggest part of their population is in constant slavery.
cats as aliens?
maybe as a form of pet, in an egyptian way... but clearly nothing to waste much energy on, by thinking about it;)
 
Velvet Wafer said:
Greys come in a heap of forms, maybe not as versatile as humans looks are, but they can look very different, dependant on where they come from...
May it be Bellatrax, Orion,Zeta Reticuli, or others...some are not even directly Greys, but rather Hybrids of Greys and other Races... it seems they have a general lack of Operators,as due to Aeons of cloning, their bodies are mere Hulls, inable to reproduce themselves.
Their flawed cloning technique also seems to have damaged the reproduction process of new hulls, as the speed of decay is constantly rising, from generation to generation.
Oh, and then, there was the problem, that the biggest part of their population is in constant slavery.
cats as aliens?
maybe as a form of pet, in an egyptian way... but clearly nothing to waste much energy on, by thinking about it;)
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Ooohh how I love your awakeness:toast:;) Its like listening to myself but with more fancier words:laugh:
 
Lionheart said:
Ooohh how I love your awakeness:toast:;) Its like listening to myself but with more fancier words:laugh:
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In the End, the Message is the same...;)
Its like that, really... we are all unique,as different as we can be....but on the other side, we are all the same, we are all one, on a certain level.:)
 
Velvet Wafer said:
Greys come in a heap of forms, maybe not as versatile as humans looks are, but they can look very different, dependant on where they come from...
May it be Bellatrax, Orion,Zeta Reticuli, or others...some are not even directly Greys, but rather Hybrids of Greys and other Races... it seems they have a general lack of Operators,as due to Aeons of cloning, their bodies are mere Hulls, inable to reproduce themselves.
Their flawed cloning technique also seems to have damaged the reproduction process of new hulls, as the speed of decay is constantly rising, from generation to generation.
Oh, and then, there was the problem, that the biggest part of their population is in constant slavery.
cats as aliens?
maybe as a form of pet, in an egyptian way... but clearly nothing to waste much energy on, by thinking about it;)
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Your are dead wrong. Cats are in fact aliens or what we know as "aliens". Greys look FAR to much like todays "primitive" feline not to be. All that stuff you just said is made up babble from some sci-fi BS book. If you are not going to take this thread seriously I will have to report you.
 
TheMailMan78 said:
Your are dead wrong. Cats are in fact aliens or what we know as "aliens". Greys look FAR to much like todays "primitive" feline not to be. All that stuff you just said is made up babble from some sci-fi BS book. If you are not going to take this thread seriously I will have to report you.
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Very funny!:D
 
Velvet Wafer said:
Very funny!:D
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You are just upset I crushed all of your pre-notions of aliens. They are space cats. You have to accept this. The evidence is plain as day. As a matter of fact I challenge you to prove me wrong.
 
TheMailMan78 said:
You are just upset I crushed all of your pre-notions of aliens. They are space cats. You have to accept this. The evidence is plain as day. As a matter of fact I challenge you to prove me wrong.
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nothing in the known history of mankind,wether spoken or written has ever pointed towards the possible fact, that Cats are anything more, than what they seem to be. They are good at catching Mice, that can be said for sure.;)
 
W1zzard said:
according to all the physics that we know and that are not contradicted by any experiments known to man you need more energy than is available in the universe to build a warp drive, and also negative energy which doesnt exist.
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Does this take into account quantum physics? I am told that a quantum computer would have the power of a computer the size of the universe. Perhaps it is the same with energy.
 
Velvet Wafer said:
nothing in the known history of mankind,wether spoken or written has ever pointed towards the possible fact, that Cats are anything more, than what they seem to be. They are good at catching Mice, that can be said for sure.;)
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Except the fact the Egyptians worshiped the cats as gods and they built the pyramids which still hasn't been explained. Sorry mate but cats are aliens. The Egyptians knew it. You are blind if you cannot see it.

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Keep it civil gents.
 
TheMailMan78 said:
Except the fact the Egyptians worshiped the cats as gods and they built the pyramids which still hasn't been explained. Sorry mate but cats are aliens. The Egyptians knew it. You are blind if you cannot see it.
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In school, i was taught, that they worshipped cats, but not as gods (they had already a pantheon of them... Ra, Osiris, Isis,Seth and so on) but rather as protectors of the food stock... seemed more logically to me:D
The pyramids... well... its true they shouldnt have been able to built them. But i bet, if some species helped them doing that, they probably would have had more relation to crocodiles, which the egyptians also worship:
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Kreij said:
Keep it civil gents.
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I hope that derailment is not included in this civility...otherwise, i feel like a certain someone tries to make me get punished :D
 
Discussion is allowed. Obvious thread crapping and derailment is not.
The point of this section is for scientific and thoughtful discussion.
 
Bastet was a cat god and Ra often turned himself into a cat when in battle. You said no history in man stated anything about the cat being a alien. Well there you have it. They worshiped the cat and they also built the pyramids something that could not have been done at that time in history. Aliens 100%. The even mummified cats to appease the gods. Thats a lot more evidence then anyone else has ever provided you and yet you deny it.

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TheMailMan78 said:
Bastet was a cat god and Ra often turned himself into a cat when in battle. You said no history in man stated anything about the cat being a alien. Well there you have it. They worshiped the cat and they also built the pyramids something that could not have been done at that time in history. Aliens 100%. The even mummified cats to appease the gods. Thats a lot more evidence then anyone else has ever provided you and yet you deny it.

http://img.techpowerup.org/110516/evo.jpg
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listen to a certain mod, with sharpshooting abilities... i think he hasnt made his statement without thought and plan;)
I know you dont have problems with Infractions (in fact you collect them), but i rather want to stay uninfracted and unbanned :p
 
This section is for scientific discussion and speculation.
Try to post a link to at least some reasonable scientific theory or speculation if you want to bring something new to the table in a discussion.
We are all here to broaden our horizons and to learn, let's not turn this into a bad GN experiment or the whole section could vanish.
That would be a shame.

Actually after reading W1zz's description of this section (new news in science of discussion of tech effect us) this really is just a GN thread.
 
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