ThrottleStop Multiplier doesn't seem to work

[JauntRon2017]

Ok , i am using ThrottleStop 6.00 and the multiplier doesnt work . I created one profile for games ( 26 multiplier ) and one for surfing the internet ( 19 multiplier ) , but since my temps are going up to 100 degrees celsius , i want to put a 24 multiplier so it goes to 2,4ghz , but it doesn't work . Any multiplier from 20-25 doesnt work and instantly goes to 2.6ghz . I tried to reinstall throttlestop and my OS , but it didn't worked too . . http://imgur.com/iWd5y9a ( as you can see , multiplier at 24 and the cpu is still running at 2,6 ghz )
Specs , if needed.
CPU : I7 4510U 2,00ghz up to 3,1ghz , 2 fisical cores , 4 logical
GPU 1 : Amd radeon r7 m265 2gb ( dedicated )
GPU 2 : Intel hd graphics family ( onboard )
RAM : 16gb
HD : 1tb + 8gb of SSD
OS : Windows 8.1 64 bits .

 

[P4-630]

Did you try https://downloadcenter.intel.com/search?keyword=xtu ?

 

[zsolt_93]

First of all get throttlestop 8.00. It must be somewhere here on the forum, i remeber it being in the realtemp thread. And you must use disable turbo for it not to override your multiplier at least for the 1.9 profile

 

[JauntRon2017]

What is XTU ?

 

[n-ster]

ThrottleStop 8.00 beta 2
https://www.sendspace.com/file/b4oure
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0dpSo9k93jDTE1fcHNtbUMwdGc/view?usp=sharing

see download link above

 

[JauntRon2017]

I download TS 8.00 but it still keeps at 2,6 :/

 

[P4-630]

What is XTU ?

With intel xtu you can set the multipliers.

 

[JauntRon2017]

But how do i change the multipliers ?

 

[P4-630]

But how do i change the multipliers ?

If you move the mouse over the multiplier numbers you'll see some little arrows to move the multiplier up or down.

Intel support:
http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/processors/toolsxtu

 

[JauntRon2017]

The option is greyed-out to me :/

 

[BiggieShady]

The option is greyed-out to me :/

Probably not supported by your laptop board

Intel Extreme Tuning Utility displays various controls and provides access to features based on the systems motherboard and processor configurations. Not all processors provide real-time support for all controls. Motherboard manufacturers can restrict access to various controls which prevent the user from overclocking those settings.

 

[JauntRon2017]

So is there any other program i can use to put the voltage at 2,4 ghz ?

 

[P4-630]

So is there any other program i can use to put the voltage at 2,4 ghz ?

It seems you just can't change the multipliers on your hardware
Other software will probably not work either if there is.

 

[unclewebb]

Some Intel CPU models do not give you the kind of control over the multiplier that you are looking for. You can use ThrottleStop to disable Turbo Boost and that should leave your CPU running at a maximum of 2.0 GHz. Between 2.0 GHz and 3.1 GHz, you might not have any control at all.

You should also be able to use ThrottleStop 8.00 to control the CPU voltage. I would suggest using some negative offset voltage for the CPU core, cache and Intel GPU which will reduce power consumption and heat. Post a screenshot of this if you need some help.

 

[JauntRon2017]

So can i put the GHz as the way it was ? ( 2,00ghz-3,1ghz)

 

[tabascosauz]

So can i put the GHz as the way it was ? ( 2,00ghz-3,1ghz)

XTU is meant for unlocked desktop CPUs like 4790K or 4690K and maybe partially unlocked desktop CPUs like 3770 or 2600. It is not meant for these normal laptop CPUs.

4510U is not a conventional "mobile" part. The i5-4200M is an example of a more conventional mobile CPU with a higher TDP. It is an ULV CPU (ultra low-voltage). Intel has probably taken precautions to keep Turbo Boost low so that the CPU stays within its 15W power envelope. There are most likely severe restrictions on the multiplier, so it's no surprise that you can't change the multipliers to your liking. For overclocking on laptops, there are the extreme edition mobile parts. That's about it.

The 4510U is not a weak CPU. If you want more performance out of your notebook, you'll most likely be looking towards a SSD for booting Windows. The 4510U is not Core-M and does not have a step-up/step-down function. A gain of 400-600MHz in the sub-3GHz range is not going to make your notebook faster. In all likelihood, your laptop doesn't have a lot of cooling since the 4510U has a low TDP, so setting it to run at higher multipliers will only make it run super hot.

If you're concerned about everyday performance in web browsing or file moving for example, the i7-4510U ramps up to 3.1GHz because those tasks only use 1 CPU core. However, when you do more intensive things and both cores are in heavy use, the maximum clockspeed is 2.0GHz for both cores because if both cores were to run at 3.1GHz or any speed above 2.0GHz, the CPU would use more than 15W, and that's not allowed.

 

[JauntRon2017]

Ok , thanks for the help guys :/
EDIT : Now the CPU is running at 1,95ghz but i want it to go back as the way it used to be , where it was ~2,6 ghz while surfing the web and 2,00 ghz while playing games ( Now it's stuck at 1,95 )

 

[unclewebb]

EDIT : Now the CPU is running at 1,95ghz but i want it to go back as the way it used to be , where it was ~2,6 ghz while surfing the web and 2,00 ghz while playing games ( Now it's stuck at 1,95 )

These CPUs use Intel Turbo Boost and also rapidly enter and exit various C States. What software are you using for monitoring? The MHz reported by some software can be a little misleading. ThrottleStop 8.00 will accurately show you what C States are being used and what multiplier is being used.

If you are not interested in using XTU or ThrottleStop; uninstall XTU, delete ThrottleStop, reboot and your CPU should be back to normal. Try RealTemp for monitoring purposes. It works very well when these CPUs are lightly loaded.

RealTemp T|I Edition
https://www.sendspace.com/file/55yvry

Edit - When lightly loaded, these CPUs are designed to constantly be changing their speed. If software is not showing you this then it is not reporting your CPU correctly or you have disabled Intel Turbo Boost.

 

[JauntRon2017]

I am using MSI Afterburner . ( Thanks , my pc went back to normal now )

 

[JauntRon2017]

Still getting to 100 degrees even with 1,95 ghz :/

 

[unclewebb]

Pull it apart and replace the thermal paste. Laptop manufacturers are pretty lame these days and many models have completely inadequate heatsinks and fans. Overheating or running way too close to 100°C is common.

 

[JauntRon2017]

Do you know at which temperature my cpu will start to danify ? ( sorry for english )

 

[AsRock]

My p 430M gets toasty and all i have to do was to disable turbo in the bios which got the temps much lower

 

[JauntRon2017]

So i figured out my cpu is running at 30%-50% while my gpu is always at 100% .

 

[unclewebb]

Intel states that the "maximum safe operating temperature" for a 4510U is 100°C.

http://ark.intel.com/products/81015/Intel-Core-i7-4510U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_10-GHz

If it hits 100°C, it will start to thermal throttle (slow down) so improve your cooling to keep it under this temperature. Intel CPUs can take a lot of abuse but they need to stay under this temperature for maximum performance. Some laptop manufacturers have started using an offset to this temperature so it might start throttling at a temperature slightly lower than this. ThrottleStop 8.00 reports this information. Look for the number to the right of PROCHOT.

Edit - Many apps and games do not fully utilize the CPU.