Is there a difference between 144Hz and 144Hz Gsync/Freesync ?

[blabla21]

I want to know if anyone here has first used 144Hz monitor at 144FPS and then used 144Hz monitor with Gsync or Freesync at 144FPS and if they saw any difference.



I feel some of the people flipping out about it stepped up from 60hz panels. Moving from a normal 60hz to a normal 144hz panel is a huge change alone. I wonder if some are giving more credit to these technologies then they deserve.I am not trying to discredit the technologies I am just curious if some of the hype is just peoples first experience with 144hz.

 

[Shou Miko]

G-Sync is only avaliable on Nvidia Graphics, while FreeSync is used by AMD.

As far as ik Nvidia don't have any plans on supporting FreeSync.

 

[blabla21]

What ? That was not what I was asking at all.

 

[AsRock]

Then you should of been more clearer about your question.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gsync+and+freesync+differences

 

[R00kie]

I want to know if anyone here has first used 144Hz monitor at 144FPS and then used 144Hz monitor with Gsync or Freesync at 144FPS and if they saw any difference.



I feel some of the people flipping out about it stepped up from 60hz panels. Moving from a normal 60hz to a normal 144hz panel is a huge change alone. I wonder if some are giving more credit to these technologies then they deserve.I am not trying to discredit the technologies I am just curious if some of the hype is just peoples first experience with 144hz.

Differences? OF course there are. G-Sync/Freesync helps with frame skipping that V-Sync had and removes screen tearing. Simples. It doesn't matter what refresh rate its at, it still does the same thing.

 

[blabla21]

Then you should of been more clearer about your question.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gsync+and+freesync+differences

I asked people who USED 144HZ screen first and then MOVED to 144HZ Gsync/Freesync monitor, is there any difference at 144Hz between normal and Gsync version of monitors @ 144FPS, im pretty sure i made it clear with the first sentence:

I want to know if anyone here has first used 144Hz monitor at 144FPS and then used 144Hz monitor with Gsync or Freesync at 144FPS and if they saw any difference.

 

[AsRock]

In that case check that link, Linus trys to show you just that so, just ignore his childishness and you should be good.

But in my opinion both techs are in teething and need much work on before either are any good. But feel free to buy in to it as that will lower the price for the rest of us .

 

[blabla21]

In that case check that link, Linus trys to show you just that so, just ignore his childishness and you should be good.

But in my opinion both techs are in teething and need much work on before either are any good. But feel free to buy in to it as that will lower the price for the rest of us .

I think you misunderstood me, I was not looking at buying any of these 2 since I already own a monitor with Freesync, I was just looking are there any people who have seen monitors at 144 FPS at 144Hz , and have they tested 144hz monitors with GSync/Freesync at the same 144FPS and is there any difference, I know very well the difference between those 2.

 

[GhostRyder]

I asked people who USED 144HZ screen first and then MOVED to 144HZ Gsync/Freesync monitor, is there any difference at 144Hz between normal and Gsync version of monitors @ 144FPS, im pretty sure i made it clear with the first sentence:

Yes there is a difference as I have experienced a 144hz 1440p monitor that had neither of these techs (A little bit ago now) and recently a Acer Freesync 1440p 144hz monitor and the Rog Swift. There is a nice difference between them (Just the non Sync version and the Sync Versions as both techs perform the same for the most part). From what I see it is smoother overall especially when the FPS changes not to mention you can use V-Sync to limit the FPS from going to high (Which reduces stress) without getting a stutter from it. Its really a nice set of techs to have if you game above 60hz mostly because games are just not optimized for the higher range of FPS and even with insane levels of power your going to have the fps fluctuating which is what causes screen tearing.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

The main thing you need to know about Freesync and the biggest differnce from G-Sync that affects the consumer is that is does not work well when frames dip below the display's bottom end refresh capability.

Thus Freesync in it's current design state really needs displays that are lower refresh than most currently made ones are capable of. A lot of people look at the two and only see the strobing and price differences, but there's a LOT more to it than that.

If you buy into Freesync now, you'd better hope you have enough graphics power to keep frames from dipping below your display's bottom refresh threshold, or you'll pay for it with some pretty bad tradeoffs onscreen.

 

[xorbe]

I want to know if anyone here has first used 144Hz monitor at 144FPS and then used 144Hz monitor with Gsync or Freesync at 144FPS and if they saw any difference. I feel some of the people flipping out about it stepped up from 60hz panels. Moving from a normal 60hz to a normal 144hz panel is a huge change alone. I wonder if some are giving more credit to these technologies then they deserve.I am not trying to discredit the technologies I am just curious if some of the hype is just peoples first experience with 144hz.

You generally don't use 144Hz gsync "at 144Hz" ... the true frame rate wanders around under 144. No tearing is very nice, and there are no abrupt fps changes like vsync on (like 120, 60, 40, 24, etc.) You can use a 144Hz gsync monitor at 144 with gsync disabled. With vsync on it would most likely act like a 72Hz screen unless the game is not intensive.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

^Same with Freesync. The ASUS Freesync display on Newegg for instance, which has the most reviews of any Freesync display they sell, forces Freesync to work within a 35-90 Hz range.

With Freesync though, the trouble begins if you dip below that range, and since a lot of power hungry games can easily dip to 30 FPS or even less, it's something to think about.

So while Freesync is a lot cheaper up front, it could end up being more expensive if you feel you have to have a more powerful GPU just to keep the frames from dipping too low.

 

[AsRock]

In the end both techs suck, they both have terrible flaws to them.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

In the end both techs suck, they both have terrible flaws to them.

I agree, which is why my plan is to just keep buying inexpensive 32" TVs until they get this sorted.

For just $250, this may very well be my next display.
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/32-inch/best#best_2

 

[BiggieShady]

I want to know if anyone here has first used 144Hz monitor at 144FPS and then used 144Hz monitor with Gsync or Freesync at 144FPS and if they saw any difference.

144Hz monitor will run at 144Hz fixed and GPU can't often provide 144 FPS so you may see some screen tearing ... g-sync or free-sync 144 Hz means 144 Hz is maximum and refresh rate is dynamic and matches frame rate if it's in supported range

 

[AsRock]

I agree, which is why my plan is to just keep buying inexpensive 32" TVs until they get this sorted.

For just $250, this may very well be my next display.
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/32-inch/best#best_2

Yeah i like the new Vizio's too, just got to make sure it does what ya want it too.

i like 40" panels funny though Newegg have that 32" at $450 but the 40" at $360 .
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...262401&cm_re=Vizio_E40-_-89-262-401-_-Product

Although i would go Walmart as if there is a issue it's dam simple to take back and you get ya money right away not a week later lol.

 

[xorbe]

In the end both techs suck, they both have terrible flaws to them.

No problems with gsync here. What's the rub people are running into, aside from price?

 

[AsRock]

No problems with gsync here. What's the rub people are running into, aside from price?

Check youtube you soon see the problems they both have, you must be pretty unique or play a small range of games but then again you are using a Titan so i truly hope it runs as well as you say. But by the reviews of the card and games getting more demanding that frame rates going get lower and lower and those issue's will appear more and more often but then again you probably blow another 1k on a new card by time that happens.

And i bet there is plenty of people having a issue with gsync and even a titan. I know i would have as being a Arma gamer.

Not trying to judge just stating a fact

 

[xorbe]

Check youtube you soon see the problems they both have, you must be pretty unique or play a small range of games but then again you are using a Titan so i truly hope it runs as well as you say. But by the reviews of the card and games getting more demanding that frame rates going get lower and lower and those issue's will appear more and more often but then again you probably blow another 1k on a new card by time that happens.

And i bet there is plenty of people having a issue with gsync and even a titan. I know i would have as being a Arma gamer.

Not trying to judge just stating a fact

Oh I know that NV isn't a bed of roses, especially recently, and $deity help you if you snag a cornercase issue within Linux. Okay I see SLI+gsync (it's always SLI plus $other_feature haha), flickering, and games that "fullscreen" by windowed fullscreen.

 

[qubit]

I want to know if anyone here has first used 144Hz monitor at 144FPS and then used 144Hz monitor with Gsync or Freesync at 144FPS and if they saw any difference.



I feel some of the people flipping out about it stepped up from 60hz panels. Moving from a normal 60hz to a normal 144hz panel is a huge change alone. I wonder if some are giving more credit to these technologies then they deserve.I am not trying to discredit the technologies I am just curious if some of the hype is just peoples first experience with 144hz.

I asked people who USED 144HZ screen first and then MOVED to 144HZ Gsync/Freesync monitor, is there any difference at 144Hz between normal and Gsync version of monitors @ 144FPS, im pretty sure i made it clear with the first sentence:

Yes, I agree and think your question is clear and quite a straightforward one to answer.

The whole point of G-Sync and FreeSync is to prevent judder when frames are dropped by making the monitor sync its refresh rate to the graphics card rather than the other way round. Note I'm talking about vsync on here. If it's not then the frame rates will never quite match and you get screen tearing, hitching etc.

Therefore, running both types of monitor at 144Hz with no dropped frames there won't be any visual difference. Only when the framerate from the graphics card drops below 144Hz will you see a difference. And to clarify, this also applies to a monitor running at any refresh rate. 60, 80, 99, 110, 122Hz, 200Hz, whatever. As long as the card is outputting vsynced frames at the same rate as the monitor refresh you won't see a difference.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

^Judder is SO not the word for that.

Screen tear, hitching stutter, etc, but judder is something completely different caused by entirely different things.

 

[BiggieShady]

For 144 Hz screen, frame capping to 72 fps (1/2) or 48 fps (1/3) would also be screen tear free provided that GPU can push more. For example adaptive v-sync with half refresh rate on 144 Hz screen would be almost constantly locked at 72 FPS with 980 Ti on new games.

 

[qubit]

^Judder is SO not the word for that.

Screen tear, hitching stutter, etc, but judder is something completely different caused by entirely different things.

Yes, it SO is the right word.

I've clarified that a bit now in my post, but you can see that's what I was driving at if you read it carefully. I had actually mentioned vsyncing in the last sentence anyway.

Drop frames with vsync on and you get judder and possibly hitching too. Actually, you get judder with vsync off too, but it will include screen tearing and those other artifacts too.

 

[arbiter]

In theory both panels should look and operate the same, That is in theory not practice. Both can do 144hz but freesync has bit of a ghosting issue which depends on how sensitive you are to you might annoy the hell outta you or you won't notice.

 

[qubit]

For 144 Hz screen, frame capping to 72 fps (1/2) or 48 fps (1/3) would also be screen tear free provided that GPU can push more. For example adaptive v-sync with half refresh rate on 144 Hz screen would be almost constantly locked at 72 FPS with 980 Ti on new games.

My monitor can do 144Hz (not adaptive sync capable) and that's exactly what happens, plus the judder is very obvious too. Obviously running an older game helps to keep a solid 72fps rather than dropping frames.