Overclock how to AMD 3200+ 754 MSI K8MM-V ? (2005 model)

[user33331]

Hello
How to make it ? Needing a simple step by step guide for amateur ?
Vintage 2005 computer:

1. MSI K8MM-V (micro ATX)
2. AMD 64 3200+(2,2GHz) socket 754 Venice TDP=59W
3. 2x1gb Hynix memory DDR400 PC3200
4. Basic 400W Colorsit Power supply

Air flow should be as today's high standard:
+ CPU cooler TDP=150W: Alpenföhn Ben Nevis tower ( the 120mm 3x copper heat pipes smaller version).
+ New case 2x120mm quality fans inside CFM=60.

I'd like to achieve a easy and safe tuning to a like 2,5 GHz and will be happy if it is possibly achieved for continuous running.

 

[eidairaman1]

Go find a motherboard manual, read it. Bump multiplier up only if possible (may not be). Otherwise adjust front side bus. Make sure cooling is good on cpu

 

[Deleted member 67555]

113 on the front side bus set the memory down to ddr 333 speeds.

I doubt you will get above 108 on the fsb

 

[cdawall]

That board doesn't have a bus lock. You won't get 2.5 stable from it /thread

 

[Athlonite]

yup by increasing the FSB you increase the PCIe bus speed with no getting around it so if your GPU doesn't like more than 100MHz on it's bus it'll not work right/crash constantly
your best bet is to increase the multiplier and HT bus I managed to get my HT on my 3400+ upto 1600 but that was it any higher and strange things happened to data

 

[DR4G00N]

This board is a bit of pain to overclock on due to the aforementioned lack of an AGP/PCI lock (I believe it doesn't anyway) and that there is no VCore or HTT/FSB option in the bios.

What you need to do is download a program called Clockgen and select the ICS950403 PLL. This will allow you to adjust the HTT/FSB in Windows, for 2.5GHz you will need to set it to 227MHz. Note this will also overclock the AGP/PCI bus' to 76MHz and 38MHz respectively. You will have to redo this every time you reboot the system.

What options do you have in the bios related to the DRAM? I know it has a VDIMM option but I don't know if it has the ability to adjust memory frequency or timings.
Because your increasing the HTT/FSB the memory frequency will also increase so it's important to know what options you have available.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

I completely forgot AMD being set at 200 and not 100 like Intel....

 

[Readlight]

just increase bus, I haw 240 its 3.11Ghz on 5000+. Memory overclocks itself. You get maybe 2 fps more. This CPU is slow in games whit lots of 3d stuff inside, its bottlenecks video card.
Good staff is its only costs now 5$ Games like Team Fortress 2 almostly works.

 

[user33331]

I found "a tuned" BIOS unlocked just for this motherboard:
https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thr...1a-With-Unlocked-Overclocking-Features?page=3

1. "Downloaded MSI K8MM-V v1A With OC.bin
2. Renamed to W7142VMS.1A0
3. Installed live update 3 from msi driver & utilty cd.
4. Double clicked WinFlash.exe located at C:\Program Files\MSI\Live Update 3\FlashUty\Award
5. Clicked File & open location of the modded W7142VMS.1A0
6. Clicked File & Update Bios.
7. Wait for it to erase & install & finish.
8. Reboot computer into bios, reset defaults & time to play."

So all I need is: (Sounds easy ?)

1. The modded bios-file
2. MSI Live update 3 software does the job automatically by itself.

 

[cdawall]

Still isn't going to lock the unlocked bus speeds.

 

[DR4G00N]

Still isn't going to lock the unlocked bus speeds.

That's true but at the same time it's probably not going to pose a huge problem below 230 HTT.

 

[cdawall]

That's true but at the same time it's probably not going to pose a huge problem below 230 HTT.

Considering I have a K8M800 series motherboard, on PATA no 240HTT is fine, SATA is a different story. Depending on drive 220HTT can be too much. The AGP bus is an entirely different story. Good luck.

 

[eidairaman1]

Id sell the board off to get one worth it.

 

[Readlight]

I also want to now what i can oc.
problably better not .
in 7 years no bios update for ahci from amd and problem to conect int. gpu whit pci expres videocard, becouse one chip wants to conect to hd 4000 series cards.

 

[user33331]

How to know what mainboards support the easier CPU multiplier X changing ? So I can get just more GHz from processor ?

• Does the mainboard package say like: OC, overclock, unlocked, gaming and such ?

 

[eidairaman1]

How to know what mainboards support the easier CPU multiplier X changing ? So I can get just more GHz from processor ?

• Does the mainboard package say like: OC, overclock, unlocked, gaming and such ?

Now that i think about it, i dont believe the non fx cpu supports multiplier overclocking, go to cpu world and verify that for your cpu

 

[DR4G00N]

How to know what mainboards support the easier CPU multiplier X changing ? So I can get just more GHz from processor ?

• Does the mainboard package say like: OC, overclock, unlocked, gaming and such ?

IIRC all 754 cpu's have a locked cpu multiplier, you can only go down and not up. The only ones with an unlocked multiplier are the A64 FX for Socket 939, AM2 & F.

 

[eidairaman1]

IIRC all 754 cpu's have a locked cpu multiplier, you can only go down and not up. The only ones with an unlocked multiplier are the A64 FX for Socket 939, AM2 & F.

940 too, yeah for skt 754-939-AM2, non FX A64 parts were multiplier locked.

You will need a good board to oc properly

 

[Mr.Scott]

754 mobiles are unlocked. Board must support them though.

 

[cdawall]

754 mobiles are unlocked. Board must support them though.

No they aren't. I have just about every single cpu for socket 754.

 

[eidairaman1]

No they aren't. I have just about every single cpu for socket 754.

Yup only fx have multipliers unlocked, one of the best cpus to oc with fsb only was the Opteron 165, but you have to have a dedicated oc board

 

[Mr.Scott]

No they aren't. I have just about every single cpu for socket 754.

You are correct. My bad. Thought the Newark's were unlocked but went and checked some of my subs and they are not.

 

[cdawall]

Yup only fx have multipliers unlocked, one of the best cpus to oc with fsb only was the Opteron 165, but you have to have a dedicated oc board

They all overclocked well. Opty 165 was s939 and is not pertinent to this. The best overclocking chip on s754 was the newark 4000+ and was only supported by a handful of motherboards.

You are correct. My bad. Thought the Newark's were unlocked but went and checked some of my subs and they are not.

Yep that died with AXP chips.

 

[user33331]

I used the Clockgen with AMD 64 3200+ 754 Venice (2.2GHz) TDP=59W (+ MSI K8MM-V )
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon 64 3200+ - ADA3200AIO4BX (ADA3200BXBOX).html
ClockGen 1.0.5.3 :
Started from stock 2200MHz and I went to 2600-2700Mhz (Vcore 1.4V -> 1.52V)... ( Forums said 2800MHz is max. and I went no further because scared )
FSB=240 or so if I remember ?
CPU temperature was still only 30*C ? Does this mean I could go even higher ?

• What does the sound card think of the higher PCI voltage that is caused by raising FSB ?

 

[Readlight]

I no eXpert, from my machine it Works great, even had 100C until it shuts down automatically one time whit no fan connected. If memory frequency is compatible then there is no blue screens it sometimes goes even more than 5GHz in hwinfo, one core. I haw 5000+ 3.1Ghz all time.Windsor-512 Only FSB changed.