TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[Arjai]

Hmmm, little badge-y things down there. Can I be "Sarcastic / Master?" or, "Resident / Fool?"

Perhaps, "Tech / Perma Newb?"




Edit: Speaking of badge-y things... How many millions of BOINC points do I need for another star on my cruncher badge?

 

[HammerON]

Finally finished the AMD EPYC build and got her crunching. Sadly I cannot measure temps as the motherboard does not seem to support doing so.

I found out that I somehow killed the ASrock X99 motherboard so the Xeon build is going to have to wait for an RMA (hopefully). Instead of selling the 6900k build, I installed it in the Thermaltake case and got her up and crunching as well.

 

[blindfitter]

The Fractal Design S doesn't have a whole lot of space when you want to go full watercooling I went ahead and mounted my old EK 360 rad and GT fans in the front already, but it'll be a little while before this rig goes under water.

Cant quite agree with you Nice build looking forward to your crunching figures.

Did you get this config thing sorted? @blindfitter

Changed it to Default, Max Output an hour ago. Its crunching away. Will check back on it 24hours

thanks for help

 

[jboydgolfer]

You are definitely right about that stock hsf, they're garbage. I used that in the very beginning on the 4790 and I'm pretty sure it got right up into the 90*s while crunching. Wasn't long til it had to be replaced.

ikr? what i dont get, is that if it cant cool the 4790....then WTF were they thinking including it with a 4690k?!?!

Edit
I just attached a brand new scythe grand flex to the top of the stock intel hsf to see if it would help it cool.....no amount of wind will make up for what the intel hsf cannot do.

 

[manofthem]

Cant quite agree with you Nice build looking forward to your crunching figures.

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Changed it to Default, Max Output an hour ago. Its crunching away. Will check back on it 24hours

thanks for help

Gotta keep in mind, I'm coming from a 900d case which is ridiculous when it comes to space. my rig should look similar to the pic you posted in terms of equipment placement, but it may not look so pretty. I like those fan grills on the back side of the rad though, cleans it up a bit.

ikr? what i dont get, is that if it cant cool the 4790....then WTF were they thinking including it with a 4690k?!?!

Edit
I just attached a brand new scythe grand flex to the top of the stock intel hsf to see if it would help it cool.....no amount of wind will make up for what the intel hsf cannot do.

I've wondered the same thing, makes no sense.

Makes me wonder if any Cruncher is running an Intel cpu with the stock fan...

 

[Norton]

sadly i only have aStock intel HSF to cool that 4790 it means i need to keep BOINC set to 40-50% usage ....sucks for a PC that is ONLY crunching. ill have to see what i can scrounge up on payday ;

Cryorig M9i ... best $20 you will ever spend for a cooler
https://www.amazon.com/CRYORIG-Mini...=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1521918066&sr=1-3

 

[jboydgolfer]

i have been able to run boinc with no issues as of yet (atleast issues with the program like i was facing), but today i noticed the heat was getting pretty serious. I had the fan profile set to silent, and i happened to lean back in my chair, and i could see the water block/pump on my H110iGTX was red, which is a warnign sign that temps have reach a critical level (80+C) I switched to a more aggressive profile, but it was still heating up more than i would like. I ended up figuribng out the problem. I have 2 larger and beefy 140mm intake fans , which draw cool air in, (over a 280mm RAD) mounted on the inside of the front bezel. Apparently, they were drawing cool air in (and making it hot with the RAD) faster than the single rear exhaust 120mm could remove it, so the warm/hot air was building up in the case, and causing the heat problem. I mounted a additional exhaust fan on the top of the case, towards the rear, and it has solved the issue nicely. Of course i could have set a aggressive fan profile, and kept the fans i had, but i rather ad a extra 1 fan, than run the current fans at higher (more noisy) speeds. Worked out really well, and soon i should have some idea of what this new Chip can do in regards to ppd. (assuming i dont run into more of the issues i was dealing with before)

 

[manofthem]

i have been able to run boinc with no issues as of yet (atleast issues with the program like i was facing), but today i noticed the heat was getting pretty serious. I had the fan profile set to silent, and i happened to lean back in my chair, and i could see the water block/pump on my H110iGTX was red, which is a warnign sign that temps have reach a critical level (80+C) I switched to a more aggressive profile, but it was still heating up more than i would like. I ended up figuribng out the problem. I have 2 larger and beefy 140mm intake fans , which draw cool air in, (over a 280mm RAD) mounted on the inside of the front bezel. Apparently, they were drawing cool air in (and making it hot with the RAD) faster than the single rear exhaust 120mm could remove it, so the warm/hot air was building up in the case, and causing the heat problem. I mounted a additional exhaust fan on the top of the case, towards the rear, and it has solved the issue nicely. Of course i could have set a aggressive fan profile, and kept the fans i had, but i rather ad a extra 1 fan, than run the current fans at higher (more noisy) speeds. Worked out really well, and soon i should have some idea of what this new Chip can do in regards to ppd. (assuming i dont run into more of the issues i was dealing with before)

Wow, that's a good example of how airflow can really affects temperatures. Good call with the extra exhaust fan.

Still going to get back with you tomorrow about that heatsink. Worked really late tonight helping someone out and just got home, no time to tinker with anything.

Cryorig M9i ... best $20 you will ever spend for a cooler
https://www.amazon.com/CRYORIG-Mini...=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1521918066&sr=1-3

That's a nice looking heatsink for the cash.

Finally finished the AMD EPYC build and got her crunching. Sadly I cannot measure temps as the motherboard does not seem to support doing so.
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I found out that I somehow killed the ASrock X99 motherboard so the Xeon build is going to have to wait for an RMA (hopefully). Instead of selling the 6900k build, I installed it in the Thermaltake case and got her up and crunching as well.

Sweet looking build. Just looked up that processor and wow! Just wondering here, are those rad fans pulling in and down?

 

[manofthem]

Just swapped out the coolers on the 4790. It was running a Raijintek Aidos 92mm, and it kept it usually in the mid to high 60s. I expected that when i swapped in the Reeven Justice 1204 cooler that temps would drop down significantly. But alas, I was mistaken as to the temp drop...


Before with Raijintek Aidos

Spoiler

After with the Reeven Justice RC1204

Spoiler

So @jboydgolfer if you want this cooler, you may. I can ship it out shortly this week if you're interested. The cooler is pretty small coming in at 92mm (the fan) but apparently it did a decent job.

 

[HammerON]

Sweet looking build. Just looked up that processor and wow! Just wondering here, are those rad fans pulling in and down?

Yes they are. I do not have any intake fans in the front, so I decided to just have them pull in air and the rear be an exhaust.
On the 6900k build, I do have them set to exhaust air out, but I also have two 120 fans in the front of the Thermaltake case pulling cool air in:

 

[jboydgolfer]

I can ship it out shortly this week if you're interested. The cooler is pretty small coming in at 92mm but apparently it did a decent job.

92mm coolers can do a Very decent job. i have a TR3 that does very well in my daughters PC. If you cool with sending it to me, ill happily take it.....im assuming it has all the required HW, and if im right, than ill certainly put it to use

I Really appreciate it .
ill PM You my info if Your ready for it.

 

[manofthem]

92mm coolers can do a Very decent job. i have a TR3 that does very well in my daughters PC. If you cool with sending it to me, ill happily take it.....im assuming it has all the required HW, and if im right, than ill certainly put it to use

I Really appreciate it .
ill PM You my info if Your ready for it.

We'll take it to PM, I'm ready but yeah, it's good to go at least with Intel as it came off the 4790, but I don't think I still have any AMD hardware but can check.

 

[jboydgolfer]

I decided to just have them pull in air and the rear be an exhaust.

thats how i set all my PC's with H2O just need to be certain there is sufficient exhaust...i pushed it too far ,with my most recent build, and the PC kept getting Really hot, so i had to add a 2nd exhaust fan.

sweet Rig BTW...imagine that in a 2p setup

 

[manofthem]

Edit: Speaking of badge-y things... How many millions of BOINC points do I need for another star on my cruncher badge?

Those stars correspond to current output, based on recent average credit iirc. Last time I had 2 stars was a while back and RAC was about ~15k according to FreeDC. I don't remember how it goes from there for 3, 4, and 5 stars but it's out of my league anyway.

 

[jboydgolfer]

I think ive gotten my i5 to a good spot in regards to Overclocking While crunching . Although 5+Ghz is possible , im not comfortable running those clocks while crunching for sustained periods. So (for now) 4.4ghz with sub 60c temps on 100% load , seems sustainable. If i go higher than 4.6ghz, i have to adjust voltages etc, and with those current increases,comes temp increases, so 4.4 ghz seems like a nice sweet spot. And it tears through work too (but the OC isnt FOR WCG, its for other stuff likes games etc, so i dont need to power down every time i wanan play something, etc). I know it's nothing compared what many of you run for your crunching set ups ,but it's pretty good for me .



Ignore the VNC window in the top left of the pic , thats just BOINC running on another PC.

 

[manofthem]

I think ive gotten my i5 to a good spot in regards to Overclocking While crunching . Although 5+Ghz is possible , im not comfortable running those clocks while crunching for sustained periods. So (for now) 4.4ghz with sub 60c temps on 100% load , seems sustainable. If i go higher than 4.6ghz, i have to adjust voltages etc, and with those current increases,comes temp increases, so 4.4 ghz seems like a nice sweet spot. And it tears through work too (but the OC isnt FOR WCG, its for other stuff likes games etc, so i dont need to power down every time i wanan play something, etc). I know it's nothing compared what many of you run for your crunching set ups ,but it's pretty good for me .



Ignore the VNC window in the top left of the pic , thats just BOINC running on another PC.
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Nice cpu and nice OC. Seems to be that it's more worthwhile to get a mild and stable overclock when it comes to crunching, rather than an insane overclock. That should net some nice ppd

 

[jboydgolfer]

Nice cpu and nice OC. Seems to be that it's more worthwhile to get a mild and stable overclock when it comes to crunching, rather than an insane overclock. That should net some nice ppd

i agree, i dont think massive overclocks will help much in the long run, even if they do garner more ppd, the heat and power draw generated is pretty hefty , atleast with this CPU it is. I just wanted to OC the chip, while not having to restart and change settings every time i stopped or started this or that program, and this setting seems to play nice with everything i have run so far. I THINK realneil is sending me a delidding tool today, and im really excited to get this IHS off, and get the temp as low as i can....plus its been a long time since i have peeled off a IHS.

 

[HammerON]

So I have been having issues with the EPYC rig putting up poor numbers (about as much as my old i7 920).
Norton has been helping me but I thought I would share this here as well for ideas.
Per Norton's request, I have set the device profile for the rig to only run SCC, OZ and OET. I did disable all power saving features in Ubuntu that I could find. I also made sure that the BOINC computer preferences are correct.
One thing I did notice is that the most RAM is appears to utilize is around 4GB total... Now that is the same amount that my i7 6900k rig is utilizing as well.

 

[manofthem]

So I have been having issues with the EPYC rig putting up poor numbers (about as much as my old i7 920).
Norton has been helping me but I thought I would share this here as well for ideas.
Per Norton's request, I have set the device profile for the rig to only run SCC, OZ and OET. I did disable all power saving features in Ubuntu that I could find. I also made sure that the BOINC computer preferences are correct.
One thing I did notice is that the most RAM is appears to utilize is around 4GB total... Now that is the same amount that my i7 6900k rig is utilizing as well.
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That's crazy... All those threads running and low output? something really wrong must be going on to have the output of a older i7.

You've checked your WCG results page for any errors, invalid, aborted?

Edit: just checked in my pcs: 8 threads running Windows 10 using about 2.5gb ram (running pretty much except boinc; 12 threads Windows 10 using about 3.9gb (running some programs like Chrome and whatnot). Not sure if that helps.

 

[jboydgolfer]

Have you tried cutting the number of cores ,or CPU load ,down to around 50% ,to see if the trend of low output continues ,no matter what quantity of core's are being utilized?

also, try setting the options for memory usage to 100%. it never uses much IME, let it run wild (if it will) and see what comes of it?

 

[HammerON]

That's crazy... All those threads running and low output? something really wrong must be going on to have the output of a older i7.

You've checked your WCG results page for any errors, invalid, aborted?

Edit: just checked in my pcs: 8 threads running Windows 10 using about 2.5gb ram (running pretty much except boinc; 12 threads Windows 10 using about 3.9gb (running some programs like Chrome and whatnot). Not sure if that helps.

I have checked WCG and there are no errors, invalid. Some aborted because I changed which projects it should run based on Norton's assessment of which projects Zen architecture runs efficiently.

 

[jboydgolfer]

I wonder if running on a Windows OS would make a difference?

I'm aware it's not optimal but just out of curiosity, since the issue itself is puzzling one ,maybe the answer to it is as well

 

[HammerON]

I am curious about that as well and may try Windows 10 (even though is isn't a listed supported OS for the motherboard).
I am also curious if it is because I did not install the server version of Ubuntu...
The current OS lags incredibly bad when I am just trying to navigate around.

 

[Norton]

I am curious about that as well and may try Windows 10 (even though is isn't a listed supported OS for the motherboard).
I am also curious if it is because I did not install the server version of Ubuntu...
The current OS lags incredibly bad when I am just trying to navigate around.

Wondering if your cpu is downclocking? Seems like long runtimes on some of those wu's. What's the stock frequency for that chip?

 

[HammerON]

Base is 2.0 GHz (3.0 GHz turbo). I will have to look at what app I can use (or via the Terminal) to view CPU frequency. I cannot view temps, which sucks, but I do know the pump is working.