Thoughts on adding downvote capability?

[OneMoar]

And maybe that works for some people. However, here's another thought. I'm an administrator in my profession and whenever someone has a suggestion, whether it might make something better or might be critical, I always welcome it as long as it is presented without whiny nonsense. I've resently sent someone home for the day because they got boarder-line insubordinate. And their attitude was very similar to the one displayed above. I don't have to take that kind of nonsense, and neither do the admins here at TPU.

accually yes they do how much of is anouther matter
you can not run a community of any size like you would run a staff of people you don't pay us we pay you with our time and dedication.

your points would stand if this was real life and not 'the internet'; and I am sorry but the two they are different and you seem to like to talk a lot about how others should behave and what they should or shouldn't tolerate, because it's 'not our website' well it's not yours either and you shouldn't be telling anybody as such, in fact it doesn't matter who has the ssh keys that is not the point here the point was is that no forum is perfect and techpowerup by far the least 'toxic' whatever the hell that means
in short MYOB and can it with the ultimentiums and arguments presented like you are some manner of authority because thats how you sound, and as you said you are none of those things

and I don't believe to be having any kind of tantrum just complete disappointment that this complete non-sense even went this far because I genuinely believe this is a case of if it aint broke don't fix it
so let's all take a counted vote here https://www.strawpoll.me/15436938

its not even like this affects me in anyway in fact I should be for having votes because the majority of users seem to no have a problem with me and for the most part I get it right at the end of the day so really there is no reason I would have to be against this other then it's just senseless reactionary bs and it is indeed being brought on by a comperiable handful of users that feel me and others have slighted them so they are raising a stink over it

so here's the flip side I think Your attitude is toxic because you are the folks that brought this entire argument to bear by bringing it to this point up until this was brought up there was No Real problem outside of the normal forum banter now its been elevated to genine discord with people picking sides To what end ? None I REPEAT None of the rule changes or new forum bells and whistles are going to address this 'toxicity' problem we don't have or even if we did have one.

if you want a example of what I consider toxicity /r/pcmasterrace
shit post after shitposts of children spamming memes and regurgitating the same old stories for weeks, people needing actual help or advice getting spammed out of their own threads because children watch a how to build a pc video and suddenly think they are technicians or just being plainly obnoxious

we have very little to NONE of that here the worst we get is a heated debate (LIKE THE ONE WE ARE HAVING RIGHT NOW) with the occasional splash of salty sailor talk and flaring tempers cry me a river

 

[sneekypeet]

Move on or enjoy a break on us! All the baiting/trolling in the last few posts is why W1zzard wanted a change. Keep in mind, this came at us (mods) out of the blue just like it did the rest of you!

 

[OneMoar]

you see how silly a vote system is ? that was what 5 points and it completely broke one point per post per user please not multiple @W1zzard if its gonna work it has to be that


also I love how the most constructive post I have written in this entire thread was flagged as low quality
just happened to be the one offering criticism as well go figure

@sneeky you either have got to have the world's poorest timing or a motive because that is EXACTLY what the the issue was No transparency and unilateral assumptions just like lex made not 15m ago
you present in a tone that is judge jury and executioner without transparency of action and that is what irritates the ever living hell out of some of us you walk in throw a 'you are trolling and i want it stopped sign up' and then walk away
that is exactly the issue this is all about here unilateral assumptions and lack of transparency

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Is there a preference option to hide the badges? If there isn't, there should be one. I'm really sick of seeing them.

 

[m&m's]

Is there a preference option to hide the badges? If there isn't, there should be one. I'm really sick of seeing them.

Don't you wanna show off your Cryptocurrency badge to the world?

@W1zzard I've noticed that there's a MS Windows tag but no Linux tag?

 

[eidairaman1]

I like the poste rating system personally, better than arguing with trolls.

 

[Vayra86]

accually yes they do how much of is anouther matter
you can not run a community of any size like you would run a staff of people you don't pay us we pay you with our time and dedication.

your points would stand if this was real life and not 'the internet'; and I am sorry but the two they are different and you seem to like to talk a lot about how others should behave and what they should or shouldn't tolerate, because it's 'not our website' well it's not yours either and you shouldn't be telling anybody as such, in fact it doesn't matter who has the ssh keys that is not the point here the point was is that no forum is perfect and techpowerup by far the least 'toxic' whatever the hell that means
in short MYOB and can it with the ultimentiums and arguments presented like you are some manner of authority because thats how you sound, and as you said you are none of those things

and I don't believe to be having any kind of tantrum just complete disappointment that this complete non-sense even went this far because I genuinely believe this is a case of if it aint broke don't fix it
so let's all take a counted vote here https://www.strawpoll.me/15436938

its not even like this affects me in anyway in fact I should be for having votes because the majority of users seem to no have a problem with me and for the most part I get it right at the end of the day so really there is no reason I would have to be against this other then it's just senseless reactionary bs and it is indeed being brought on by a comperiable handful of users that feel me and others have slighted them so they are raising a stink over it

so here's the flip side I think Your attitude is toxic because you are the folks that brought this entire argument to bear by bringing it to this point up until this was brought up there was No Real problem outside of the normal forum banter now its been elevated to genine discord with people picking sides To what end ? None I REPEAT None of the rule changes or new forum bells and whistles are going to address this 'toxicity' problem we don't have or even if we did have one.

if you want a example of what I consider toxicity /r/pcmasterrace
shit post after shitposts of children spamming memes and regurgitating the same old stories for weeks, people needing actual help or advice getting spammed out of their own threads because children watch a how to build a pc video and suddenly think they are technicians or just being plainly obnoxious

we have very little to NONE of that here the worst we get is a heated debate (LIKE THE ONE WE ARE HAVING RIGHT NOW) with the occasional splash of salty sailor talk and flaring tempers cry me a river

I'll be honest with ya. I get exactly what you're saying... and I tend to take the same kind of 'blunt' "This is what it is, take it or leave it" style in my posting when it comes to people making silly decisions.

I've also learned that this lack of sensitivity can be counterproductive. In the end, a forum is all about interaction. Interaction isn't a one way street... Sometimes its good to bend and it can help getting what you want (to convey) more effectively.

Are people 'picking sides'? I don't see it with the current rating of posts to be fair, what I do see is that the -1 posts now get 'ignored' much more often and people just don't feel any need any longer to feed the troll, because that troll was already put in its place by a rating. If you ask me, that's a pretty cool dynamic to have. And nothing stops anyone from up-rating a -1 post after the fact either if they DO agree with said post.

Honestly these ratings add a form of democracy to opinion which is quite alright. There is no real censorship in place, and people get constant feedback on how their style of posting is received - and this happens WITHOUT page upon page with discussions about 'tone of voice', the ratings do that now.

The discussion over 'was it needed'... is that a relevant discussion? How about instead objectively looking at 'does it improve the quality and content in a broader sense on the forum'? I have to say I am slowly seeing that - not everywhere and not on all posts of course - and people do seem a tad more conscious with their posting. Myself included.

Toxicity on this forum... nah. This forum isn't even remotely close to a toxic place and those who think it is... well I guess they're new to the interwebs

PS. the badge system does seem abit ... unbalanced. I look at my collection here and some of them puzzle me

 

[cucker tarlson]

Yeah. I got a badge for intel expert, then it was taken, don't know why. I don't claim to be an expert in intel cpus but I've had years of experience with sandy,ivy,devils canyon and now broadwell-c. Anyone comes to TPU with a question about broadwell-c it's usually a grey area for 99.9% percent of people who run more mainstream chips.


update: Lol, took 5 second after I posted.

 

[W1zzard]

don't know why

click the badge, click your score in the list

 

[cucker tarlson]

click the badge, click your score in the list

Wow, that's a nice system. How does it work ? Likes/ratings in topic-related threads ?

 

[DRDNA]

I dont know about down voting but would like to see the two badges on my post content removed. long service and benching master.

 

[Vayra86]

click the badge, click your score in the list

Nice, didn't know that

 

[cucker tarlson]

I didn't know champion was better than master and expert.

 

[blobster21]

I'm getting tired of those badges too, it was ok at first, but then they started pilling up one after the other and now it has become a show off contest.

Is there a way to turn them off, just like signatures, avatars, etc..?

 

[Vayra86]

I'm getting tired of those badges too, it was ok at first, but then they started pilling up one after the other and now it has become a show off contest.

Yes the main problem with badges now is that you accumulate points for EVERY post that has a like or a +1.

It would work a lot better if it only measured on +2 and/or even just +3 posts, but that also requires people being used to rating posts like that. Its a bit of a catch 22, because to kickstart this badge system the W1zz had to feed it with Likes.

 

[cucker tarlson]

It's good but I'd rather have thresholds than top 10.

Like,say, +100 for intel expert, +300 for intel master, +500 for intel champion.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It's good but I'd rather have thresholds than top 10.

Like,say, +100 for intel expert, +300 for intel master, +500 for intel champion.

That would then require that the time-frame for them be extended out for the length of the account age. That might work.

For those complaining about the badges, it's not that big a deal. I barely notice them. Of course this could be a complaint based on viewing the site from a phone in which case it would take up a lot of screen space. Of course to that I generally say get a tablet or PC. However sometimes that's all a person has for whatever reason. Maybe a good solution would be for the site to detect display PPI and hide the badges and sigs automatically if the screen is to small.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

All he has to do is add a "visibility: hidden" to "post-ratings-badges" that don't want to see it. Looks so much cleaner:

 

[ShurikN]

Low quality post, has +3. Makes sense...

 

[Jetster]

Just my opinion, we tried it and I think it's just a distraction. Badges and the down vote. It is nice to try new stuff though

 

[laszlo]

11 pages to read... lot of pro&contra arguments; i decided to not use the rate option at all

if i like a post i know what to do; if not, is going to oblivion anyway from my point of view

 

[lexluthermiester]

we tried it and I think it's just a distraction.

Gotta disagree. It has added a few things that are worthy of use. The weird inconsistencies like the one @ShurikN mentioned were comments have a +3 and yet are low quality are likely due to the comment being popular and yet no measuring up to TPU standards for the site or that thread will need to be refined. Aside form those, it seems to be working well and is doing what is intended to do, encourage users to think through their statement/thoughts and contribute positively to the community instead of just shoveling into the conversation whatever pops into their minds.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

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Low quality post, has +3. Makes sense...

I thought this too, however upvotes are by general members so it's a general consensus by members of the community that agree/disagree with said post. Just takes a mod to mark a post as low quality, no input needed from us lowly forum members, pretty sure I know where this one came from

Case in point they tolerate passive agressive trolls, but hey, call someone out with proof of multiple similar posts they have made on similar threads to get a response/bait, and you get your palms rapped.... naughty boy

you see how silly a vote system is ? that was what 5 points and it completely broke one point per post per user please not multiple @W1zzard if its gonna work it has to be that


also I love how the most constructive post I have written in this entire thread was flagged as low quality
just happened to be the one offering criticism as well go figure

@sneeky you either have got to have the world's poorest timing or a motive because that is EXACTLY what the the issue was No transparency and unilateral assumptions just like lex made not 15m ago
you present in a tone that is judge jury and executioner without transparency of action and that is what irritates the ever living hell out of some of us you walk in throw a 'you are trolling and i want it stopped sign up' and then walk away
that is exactly the issue this is all about here unilateral assumptions and lack of transparency

Oh look, another +3 that was subsequently marked as low quality, maybe we should have the ability to censor certain mods as they do freely with our posts... few names stand out unequivically

 

[sneekypeet]

To all those wondering about low quality post flags, this is not the thread to do so as this is about voting (against the guidelines). Also if you have issues with moderation, the guidelines state that doing it publicly is not the correct avenue of approach. Seems to me, the low quality post flag is working as intended.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

To all those wondering about low quality post flags, this is not the thread to do so as this is about voting (against the guidelines). Also if you have issues with moderation, the guidelines state that doing it publicly is not the correct avenue of approach. Seems to me, the low quality post flag is working as intended.

Seems to me you're feeling a little bit hot under the collar, I rated your post, hope you don't mind as this is all above board and nothing to do with being ban stick happy against certain people you've had run ins with