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spas·tic (spstk)
adj.
1. Of, relating to, or characterized by spasms: a spastic colon; a spastic form of cerebral palsy.
2. Affected by spastic paralysis.
3. Offensive Slang Clumsy or inept.
n.
A person affected with spastic paralysis.



id·i·ot (d-t)
n.
1. A foolish or stupid person.
2. A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.


In the UK, the word idiot, isnt really offensive anymore, because it is no longer associated with actual retarded people, but the word spastic is offensive, when used to mock disabled people.
 
HookeyStreet said:
Jimmy meant the word idiot, not spastic.
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Duh.

What I meant was spastic isn't jaded enough yet, meaning the people saying it haven't said it enough to lessen it's offensive nature and potentially render it comical even. Soon enough it'll be as meaningless as idiot.
 
GJSNeptune said:
...because the beauty of language is that it's ever-shifting to the discretion of who's speaking it irregardless of location/culture.
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Shouldnt a word taken from Greek culture have the same treatment in the UK ?
Its like taking an word and then saying we dont like to use it.... :banghead:
 
HellasVagabond said:
Shouldnt a word taken from Greek culture have the same treatment in the UK ?
Its like taking an word and then saying we dont like to use it.... :banghead:
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I hope your teachers had/have more patience than I do with you.
 
HookeyStreet said:
In the UK, the word idiot, isnt really offensive anymore, because it is no longer associated with actual retarded people, but the word spastic is offensive, when used to mock disabled people.
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I'm willing to bet idiot was at some point in its life as offensive as spastic. Both are used to mock someone's intelligence and/or mental handicap(s).
 
Whatever Neptune......
 
I think you'll just have to accept it this way:

In Britain, Spastic is considered an offensive word to many whilst idiot is not.

That's just how it is, but it also depends on the context in which it is used.
 
HellasVagabond said:
Spastic is a word guys...The fact that people dont like the sound of it doesnt mean it should be banned...Especially when found in a game.
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This is a very naive comment. You are posting from Greece, this word probably means very little to you and this is reflected in your attitude towards it. I am sure there are many words in Greek that you would find offensive if people in the UK were to use without thinking.

Spastic in UK English was a word originally used to describe sufferers of Cerebral Palsy, which was cruelly then used as an insult, implying that someone was mentally handicapped. It is not the kind of word that should be used by a large commercial organisation such as Nintendo.

It is almost as bad as using the N-word, and defending the use of it by saying its "just a word"
 
evil bill said:
It is almost as bad as using the N-word, and defending the use of it by saying its "just a word"
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:toast:

Well put, that's probably the best way to explain it.
 
GJSNeptune said:
I'm willing to bet idiot was at some point in its life as offensive as spastic. Both are used to mock someone's intelligence and/or mental handicap(s).
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Lets agree to disagree m8.

I live in the UK, I have for 28 years (all of my life) so I think I know a little bit more about our 'slang' then you.

Like Jimmy said, the word idiot, is almost 'comical' now. ie, if you m8 did something stupid, you would call him an idiot, he/she would probably agree and laugh it off.

But if your said m8, did something stupid and you called him/her a spastic, then they could take it to offense, because the word is associated with savere mental/physical handicap.

Another example, if my son (hes only 4) was messing around and someone said "you boy was running around like an idiot and bumped into someone", I wouldnt like this person to call my child an idiot, but I would understand what they meant. But if this said person called my son a spastic, I would probably put them on their arse!
 
evil bill said:
This is a very naive comment. You are posting from Greece, this word probably means very little to you and this is reflected in your attitude towards it. I am sure there are many words in Greek that you would find offensive if people in the UK were to use without thinking.

Spastic in UK English was a word originally used to describe sufferers of Cerebral Palsy, which was cruelly then used as an insult, implying that someone was mentally handicapped. It is not the kind of word that should be used by a large commercial organisation such as Nintendo.

It is almost as bad as using the N-word, and defending the use of it by saying its "just a word"
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We are talking about a Greek word and im posting from Greece and you meaning to tell me that what English people think of this word is more correct than what we think of it ???
Well at least we dont Ban stuff for such things as words......Democracy should apply not only to people but to companies as well and i dont think that the word Spastic violates the rights of handicapped people. Then again perhaps Democracy is something that us Greeks dont know off and should consult other countries :)
 
HellasVagabond said:
We are talking about a Greek word and im posting from Greece and you meaning to tell me that what English people think of this word is more correct than what we think of it ???
Well at least we dont Ban stuff for such things as words......Democracy should apply not only to people but to companies as well and i dont think that the word Spastic violates the rights of handicapped people. Then again perhaps Democracy is something that us Greeks dont know off and should consult other countries :)
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I dunno what thread you've been reading, but this isn't about whose meaning of a word is "more correct."
 
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LoL....I was expecting Zek to post this :P
 
evil bill said:
This is a very naive comment. You are posting from Greece, this word probably means very little to you and this is reflected in your attitude towards it. I am sure there are many words in Greek that you would find offensive if people in the UK were to use without thinking.

Spastic in UK English was a word originally used to describe sufferers of Cerebral Palsy, which was cruelly then used as an insult, implying that someone was mentally handicapped. It is not the kind of word that should be used by a large commercial organisation such as Nintendo.

It is almost as bad as using the N-word, and defending the use of it by saying its "just a word"
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I agree 110% m8, at last, someone with sense like Jimmy and I ;)
 
HellsVagabond - Im not sure if you are being deliberately obtuse, but you are CLEARLY missing the point of this thread and are trying to drag it off on an irrelevant tangent.

Many words in the English language can be traced back to other languages, such as Latin and Greek. This does NOT give the original "owners" of the word carte blanche over all future uses and meaning. If you were to study language, you would realise that many offensive words have innocuous backgrounds but that does not lessen there ability to offend in a modern context.
 
Im just saying that countries that use foreign words in their vocabulary should take under consideration the meaning of the word in the country it originated from. I find it quite fair.
 
HellasVagabond said:
Im just saying that countries that use foreign words in their vocabulary should take under consideration the meaning of the word in the country it originated from. I find it quite fair.
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You might wanna stick to solely posting news and not commenting on it.
 
HellasVagabond said:
Im just saying that countries that use foreign words in their vocabulary should take under consideration the meaning of the word in the country it originated from. I find it quite fair.
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I give up :banghead:
 
When I first saw this, I was like ZOMG, Nintendo released a game with a wordy dird, but seeing the word I almost wanted to laugh....until the wikipedia entry and the uk slang of it.


I was thinking of someone with a spastic colon based on that word alone.
 
HookeyStreet said:
Lets agree to disagree m8.

I live in the UK, I have for 28 years (all of my life) so I think I know a little bit more about our 'slang' then you.

Like Jimmy said, the word idiot, is almost 'comical' now. ie, if you m8 did something stupid, you would call him an idiot, he/she would probably agree and laugh it off.

But if your said m8, did something stupid and you called him/her a spastic, then they could take it to offense, because the word is associated with savere mental/physical handicap.

Another example, if my son (hes only 4) was messing around and someone said "you boy was running around like an idiot and bumped into someone", I wouldnt like this person to call my child an idiot, but I would understand what they meant. But if this said person called my son a spastic, I would probably put them on their arse!
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Yay 'Ocre's gonna join the fun...

If the above happened in the US, EITHER 'phrase' would be acceptable. If someone called my 4yr old (he's 4 today...has a new atv the lucky bastard) a 'spaz' we in the US would laugh it off the same as 'idiot' b/c it means something different here. Read the wikipedia link.

ITS OK FOR THE SAME WORD TO MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. Some people need to learn RESPECT FOR OTHER CULTURES. Nintendo got it right. They realized in the UK culture, forms of the word 'spaz' are offensive, so they took the proper action. I bet the same word can be found in teh NTSC US versions (as the uk versions are PAL), but its not offensive here so no action is needed.

RESPECT CULTURE. You all in the UK need to respect that 'spaz' is NOT offensive in the US
You all in the US need to respect that 'spaz' is NOT an acceptable term in the UK...

Reminds me of the symantics around 'faggot' - IE its a cigarette in the UK, but is VERY offensive in the US.
 
Yikes. Glad I don't think of colons when I see spastic. :p
 
Mediocre said:
Reminds me of the symantics around 'faggot' - IE its a cigarette in the UK, but is VERY offensive in the US.
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almost - its the shortened version "fag" that we Brits call cigarettes. Oh, the trouble I got into in the States for saying I was just going out to smoke a fag..........

Faggots are also baked or fried ball of seasoned chopped liver but they aren't very popular in modern cooking.
 
Didn't the Brits change it to 'fagger' because of us?
 
GJSNeptune said:
You might wanna stick to solely posting news and not commenting on it.
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Like i say again and again when i or anyone else in here needs your opinion we will ask for it...
Meanwhile keep posting whatever comes to mind so you can get to 5.000 posts in 3 months :)
 
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