Speaking of bashing Intel, how about an auction only space heater
Intel Core i9-9990XE : Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only
Intel Core i9-9990XE : Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only
System Name | Sham Pc |
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Processor | i5-2500k @ 4.33 |
Motherboard | INTEL DZ77SL 50K |
Cooling | 2 bay res. "2L of fluid in loop" 1x480 2x360 |
Memory | 16gb 4x4 kingstone 1600 hyper x fury black |
Video Card(s) | hfa2 gtx 780 @ 1306/1768 (xspc bloc) |
Storage | 1tb wd red 120gb kingston on the way os, 1.5Tb wd black, 3tb random WD rebrand |
Display(s) | cibox something or other 23" 1080p " 23 inch downstairs. 52 inch plasma downstairs 15" tft kitchen |
Case | 900D |
Audio Device(s) | on board |
Power Supply | xion gaming seriese 1000W (non modular) 80+ bronze |
Software | windows 10 pro x64 |
System Name | Starlifter :: Dragonfly |
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Processor | i7 2600k 4.4GHz :: i5 10400 |
Motherboard | ASUS P8P67 Pro :: ASUS Prime H570-Plus |
Cooling | Cryorig M9 :: Stock |
Memory | 4x4GB DDR3 2133 :: 2x8GB DDR4 2400 |
Video Card(s) | PNY GTX1070 :: Integrated UHD 630 |
Storage | Crucial MX500 1TB, 2x1TB Seagate RAID 0 :: Mushkin Enhanced 60GB SSD, 3x4TB Seagate HDD RAID5 |
Display(s) | Onn 165hz 1080p :: Acer 1080p |
Case | Antec SOHO 1030B :: Old White Full Tower |
Audio Device(s) | Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro - Bose Companion 2 Series III :: None |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro GE 550w :: EVGA Supernova 550 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro - Plex Server on Dragonfly |
Benchmark Scores | >9000 |
LOL, where's the i9-9999EE "Emergency Edition"?Speaking of bashing Intel, how about an auction only space heater
Intel Core i9-9990XE : Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only
System Name | Brightworks Systems BWS-6 E-IV |
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Processor | Intel Core i5-6600 @ 3.9GHz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 Rev 1.0 |
Cooling | Quality case, 2 x Fractal Design 140mm fans, stock CPU HSF |
Memory | 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 3000 Corsair Vengeance |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GEForce GTX 1050Ti 4Gb GDDR5 |
Storage | Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD, Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD |
Display(s) | Samsung S24E650BW LED x 2 |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 550W G2 Gold |
Mouse | Logitech M190 |
Keyboard | Microsoft Wireless Comfort 5050 |
Software | W10 Pro 64-bit |
Gee whiz! Where did I say anything was okay? Why are you now making things up? This is what I meant by it would be nice to have an intelligent debate. Please read what I have said again. No where did I say any price was okay, good, or otherwise acceptable. The only thing I claimed was good is that none of the prices for CPUs shown in that PDF list went up. And that is good. It is also NOT an indication of "greed" as was also suggested.Do you still think that's okay?
That's true only if you're OCing with the IGP active, but that's very rare for any desktop user with these chips. Not to mention the IGP is power & clock gated, the difference will be minimal even if one's using the IGP for say quick sync or multi monitor.But on the technical side, with the integrated graphics deactivated, that also means all the power dedicated for the processor can be utilized for just the CPU side and without the graphics side generating a bunch of heat. That's also a good thing. And finally without any integrated graphics sapping power or generating heat, it would allow more headroom for overclocking.
System Name | Firelance. |
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Processor | Threadripper 3960X |
Motherboard | ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming |
Cooling | IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12 |
Memory | 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data) |
Display(s) | 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz) |
Case | Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans |
Power Supply | Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Logitech G613 |
Software | Windows 10 Professional x64 |
People have every legitimate reason to. This is how healthy consumerism work.I don't understand why people are complaining about the prices
System Name | Overlord Mk MLI |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets |
Memory | 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68 |
Video Card(s) | Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS |
Storage | 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000 |
Display(s) | Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz |
Case | Fractal Design Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Virtuoso SE |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Max |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w |
System Name | Firelance. |
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Processor | Threadripper 3960X |
Motherboard | ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming |
Cooling | IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12 |
Memory | 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data) |
Display(s) | 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz) |
Case | Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans |
Power Supply | Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Logitech G613 |
Software | Windows 10 Professional x64 |
People have every legitimate reason to. This is how healthy consumerism work.
Someone who could buy an i5 8400 for 170$ now have to cough up 210$ for very similar computer performance, and he wouldn't even get an iGPU as soon as iGPU-included models are out of stock.
"I was angry that the CPU i wanted got pricier and lack features, but then i learned about supply and demand and i'm all calm now"Orrr... they can stop whining, learn about supply and demand
System Name | Brightworks Systems BWS-6 E-IV |
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Processor | Intel Core i5-6600 @ 3.9GHz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 Rev 1.0 |
Cooling | Quality case, 2 x Fractal Design 140mm fans, stock CPU HSF |
Memory | 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 3000 Corsair Vengeance |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GEForce GTX 1050Ti 4Gb GDDR5 |
Storage | Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD, Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD |
Display(s) | Samsung S24E650BW LED x 2 |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 550W G2 Gold |
Mouse | Logitech M190 |
Keyboard | Microsoft Wireless Comfort 5050 |
Software | W10 Pro 64-bit |
Gee whiz. Did you actually read that article? There's no indication of greed there. It's about an auction - with no fixed price indicated. And they must auction because there just are not enough (extremely expensive) factories around the world to ensure Intel can make enough of those processors while at the same time, keep up supply to match the demand for their other processors. These new processors will be in very limited supply. It costs a lot of money to release a product world wide as that adds many middle-men, all wanting their cut.Because there's no greed at all over at Intel...
https://s21.q4cdn.com/600692695/fil...an_07_19_Recommended_Customer_Price_List_.pdf
It looks like Intel decided not to give any discount on these parts...
Greed rules once again.
They even decided to charge $5 more for the i3-9350KF over the older i3-8350K.
Also note that the F SKUs lack TSX-NI and Intel Trusted Execution Technology, so you get even less for your money, for no apparent reason.
System Name | Brightworks Systems BWS-6 E-IV |
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Processor | Intel Core i5-6600 @ 3.9GHz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 Rev 1.0 |
Cooling | Quality case, 2 x Fractal Design 140mm fans, stock CPU HSF |
Memory | 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 3000 Corsair Vengeance |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GEForce GTX 1050Ti 4Gb GDDR5 |
Storage | Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD, Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD |
Display(s) | Samsung S24E650BW LED x 2 |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 550W G2 Gold |
Mouse | Logitech M190 |
Keyboard | Microsoft Wireless Comfort 5050 |
Software | W10 Pro 64-bit |
System Name | Overlord Mk MLI |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets |
Memory | 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68 |
Video Card(s) | Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS |
Storage | 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000 |
Display(s) | Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz |
Case | Fractal Design Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Virtuoso SE |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Max |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w |
System Name | Brightworks Systems BWS-6 E-IV |
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Processor | Intel Core i5-6600 @ 3.9GHz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 Rev 1.0 |
Cooling | Quality case, 2 x Fractal Design 140mm fans, stock CPU HSF |
Memory | 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 3000 Corsair Vengeance |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GEForce GTX 1050Ti 4Gb GDDR5 |
Storage | Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD, Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD |
Display(s) | Samsung S24E650BW LED x 2 |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 550W G2 Gold |
Mouse | Logitech M190 |
Keyboard | Microsoft Wireless Comfort 5050 |
Software | W10 Pro 64-bit |
No. Of course it is not greedy. This is a new, very expensive to make processor where, at this point of time, the demand for it is unknown. It makes no sense whatsoever to cease production of current processors to retool other foundries and ramp up production on what amounts to a niche market product when demand, at this point in time, is unknown.So what you're saying is that adding an "off roadmap" part the delivers better performance (presumably), than the equivalent on roadmap part, then limiting the quantity and only offering it to a limited set of system integrators via auction, is not greedy
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
I have old GPUs collecting dust somewhere, I wouldn't mind not wasting 33-50% die space on an unused IGP.I had two gpus die,both took a month for rma replacement to get back, and was in between gpus several times. I can't imagine not having an igpu.
System Name | Desktop |
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Processor | i5 13600KF |
Motherboard | AsRock B760M Steel Legend Wifi |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U9S |
Memory | 4x 16 Gb Gskill S5 DDR5 @6000 |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte Gaming OC 6750 XT 12GB |
Storage | WD_BLACK 4TB SN850x |
Display(s) | Gigabye M32U |
Case | Corsair Carbide 400C |
Audio Device(s) | On Board |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 650 P2 |
Mouse | MX Master 3s |
Keyboard | Logitech G915 Wireless Clicky |
Software | The Matrix |
System Name | Firelance. |
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Processor | Threadripper 3960X |
Motherboard | ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming |
Cooling | IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12 |
Memory | 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data) |
Display(s) | 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz) |
Case | Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans |
Power Supply | Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Logitech G613 |
Software | Windows 10 Professional x64 |
"I was angry that the CPU i wanted got pricier and lack features, but then i learned about supply and demand and i'm all calm now"
Holy cow.
System Name | Overlord Mk MLI |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets |
Memory | 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68 |
Video Card(s) | Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS |
Storage | 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000 |
Display(s) | Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz |
Case | Fractal Design Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Virtuoso SE |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Max |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w |
System Name | Brightworks Systems BWS-6 E-IV |
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Processor | Intel Core i5-6600 @ 3.9GHz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 Rev 1.0 |
Cooling | Quality case, 2 x Fractal Design 140mm fans, stock CPU HSF |
Memory | 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 3000 Corsair Vengeance |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GEForce GTX 1050Ti 4Gb GDDR5 |
Storage | Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD, Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD |
Display(s) | Samsung S24E650BW LED x 2 |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 550W G2 Gold |
Mouse | Logitech M190 |
Keyboard | Microsoft Wireless Comfort 5050 |
Software | W10 Pro 64-bit |
Given how tray price is often not connected to the retail price, it will depend on how many processors actually make it to market or to retail (if any end up in retail packaging) to see if they will actually be sold at a lower price than the parts with integrated graphics.