Steam Fanatics Review-bomb "Metro Exodus" on Metacritic

[xenocide]

Why buy a game off the Epic Games Store? No reason nor incentive to buy any game from such a massive lacking platform.
No wonder people rather buy STEAM Games. Just look at all the supportive features.
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The feature that isn't mentioned there, but is absolutely important and nobody seems to talk about, is Key Generation. On Steam, Developers can generate key's for their game, and then sell those key's on other sites. That's where the Humble Store gets their key's, that's where places like GOG and Green Man get their key's. The most interesting part, is that Valve gets 0% from the keys sold this way--because the sale is technically through another company. That means not only does Valve have more features for users, it even has means for Developers to sell on other platforms where they don't even take a cut. Epic Games Store has no similar feature. That means things like Humble Bundle are just not possible through Epic's store. How much do you reckon devs make on sales through those third parties? Because that revenue is about to disappear for them.

 

[rtwjunkie]

that's where places like GOG and Green Man get their key's.

Um, when did GOG become a reseller? As far as I know, all games for GOG are specific to the platform.

Developers actually have to do a little work to make games for GOG, which is why even new titles usually take a little while. I have also never seen GOG sell keys for another site.


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[Crackong]

(Copied from my own comment in another topic)

The problem isn't "Exclusive" or "Steam monopoly".
It is their extremely poor execution of pulling off the steam page without sufficient time for customers (and potential customers) to buy (or you could call it "pre-order") the game on steam.
People don't like being forced to use something they are not familiar with.

Those wanna argue "It is just another launcher, no big deal".
Remember, "On steam" is considered as a part of the product and a part of advertisement.
Imagine what would happened if Metro Exodus only available via physical DVDs.
Customers (and potential customers) received all those advertisement from day one had to put "On steam" in mind while making their buying decision.

This "Exclusive" move ripped off people's buying decisions and forces them to buy a different product (Yes, "Game + Steam" and "Game + Epic" should be considered different products).

In this case consumers receive 0 benefits.
Consumers received false advertisement for all those days.
Consumers are forced to buy a different product.
Consumers are forced to install an inferior launcher, which has multiple security issues, some of them violate EU laws.
Consumers are forced to install fortnite, wasted space and if they can auto install fortnite, they can put something else in your PC, automatically.

This is so anti-consumer.

Why would somebody defend them?

 

[rtwjunkie]

Really? I don’t know about you, but I don’t play “Steam.” I play games, wherever the game is I want to play, because I’m all about gaming.

Was it a bad move by Deep Silver? Sure it is. It doesn’t change my desire to play the GAME.

 

[GoldenX]

Fanboys will be fanboys.
Games were better when there were no stupid launchers. I don't need an internet connection, an account, and a resident program, to play a single player game.

 

[xenocide]

Um, when did GOG become a reseller? As far as I know, all games for GOG are specific to the platform.

Developers actually have to do a little work to make games for GOG, which is why even new titles usually take a little while. I have also never seen GOG sell keys for another site.

I've never used their site, but I was under the impression most games bought there were DRM-free, but they expanded to newer games a few years back including some that could be activated on Steam. If I'm wrong then so be it, but the point still stands even disregarding a single point of sale.

 

[yotano211]

This world has gotten so pity that they will bomb a perfectly good game once people don't get there way. No wonder I bought a sailboat and will be leaving the US within 6 months to circumnavigate the world.
The PC community always gets a mad rep for stunts like this. I didnt get the game because out of my price range and I dont pre-order games, I'll wait until it hits $25 and under.

 

[king of swag187]

This is total horseshit. This is nothing more than a bunch of children having a temper tantrum. I don't quite remember this level of vitriol to Rockstar about RDR2, at least the review bombing. I would like to see many, many, more games do this. Just for spite now.

Children. Grow up.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/am18zn

 

[John Naylor]

If it ain't GoG'd, I'm not playing

 

[RoutedScripter]

So yeah all the stuff we talked about in the previous threads, and now, it all comes down to this that no matter how objectively unfair the reviewbombs are (there is no other venue for them to voice opinion, putting bad review is a relief mechanism for the pissed-off steam users and works as a punishment, it's the industry's fault as well that there aren't more types of feedback venues for different purposes) the damage has been done and in exchange for SUPPOSABLY maximized profits the publisher will have to deal with substantial negativity in almost all the comments/responses of the future promotional content, a totally tarnished review scoring that is now completely invalid with so many rogue parameters, and a totally demoralized development team, even if the RAW developers weren't part of any consideration towards the decision or whatever, they see this happening and deep down it is demoralizing and negative even if they themself's don't notice it as it may work on a subconscious subtle level for some, others like the one who went public has been greately affected and probably will be affecting life for some time, remember RAW developers don't get satisfaction only from money like financial zombies do, they get it from seeing satisfied customers, they're seing a shitstorm taking place, even if all is invalid and they "ignore it", yes, we suppose to ignore the invalid bad reviews, but the point is here, psychological damage has already been done.

This has irrepairably tainted the reputation of the game in the public view for those who haven't got the full story, individually and technically you can totally disonnect from the internet and enjoy the game without zero influence from the review bombing but the side effect will still be there in the back of everyone's mind playing it who were tuned into this debacle or the ones who never wanted EPIC Launcher and were forced to use it.

This is probably one of the most stupid decisions ever for a publisher, complete and utter garbage. Don't they know what the internet is, don't they know there's more children on the internet every day than the day before?

As I said before (past threads), it's all tradeoffs, if the publisher did investigate and test all the scenarios and odds, they might have come to a conclusion that financial gain from this decision would be more worth than the pissed of hoardes as well as the development team to some extent, you just have to be a piece of crap greedy dirtbag to do actually do this in practice.

 

[Camm]

I dislike the decision (because as a consumer this isn't competition, but exclusivity bullshit) but don't get some of the childishness around it.

Just wait a year and grab it from Steam, or go sailing in a week (and buy it in a year you scallywag).

 

[Super XP]

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/am18zn

I wonder how much EPIC paid off OMNI. Hmmm

Here is why Epic Games Launcher is better than Steam by Omni equals complete nonsense.
Lets put this once again into perspective. Who's better Steam or Epic? This is an easy one.

And yes I am all for COMPETITION, so let people choose if they want to use STEAM or EPIC Game Launching Software. The very fact they are force feeding this Epic launcher and taking METRO Exodus Exclusive is anything but competition. It's anti-consumerism, anti-pc gaming, anti-choice etc., The worse part of all this nonsense drama is the fact the Developers will unnecessarily suffer the most due to poor sales. All while the Publishers will look like a bunch of Μαρόνες, Ίδιοι, ψεύτικες etc.,

 

[newtekie1]

Really? I don’t know about you, but I don’t play “Steam.” I play games, wherever the game is I want to play, because I’m all about gaming.

Was it a bad move by Deep Silver? Sure it is. It doesn’t change my desire to play the GAME.

Honestly, the benefits of Steam are part of the product and part of my buying decisions. And it isn't just the multiplayer stuff, I don't really even play multiplayer. Just the cloud save integration alone is a benefit of steam that is part of the product that I'm buying when I buy a game, I check to make sure the game uses it before I buy it.

And, like I've said before, what should happen is they should have released the game on multiple platforms and let the consumers decide which to buy it on. If they wanted Epic to be the main platform, make it appealing to the consumers. Price the game 10% cheaper on Epic, or 10% more expensive on all the other platforms. If people really want to use Steam, and enjoy the benefits that Steam provides, they can pay a little more for the game. Personally, cloud saves alone are worth ~$6 more for the game. But on top of that, the family sharing and steam workshop are also worth the few extra bucks.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I wonder how much EPIC paid off OMNI. Hmmm

Here is why Epic Games Launcher is better than Steam by Omni equals complete nonsense.
Lets put this once again into perspective. Who's better Steam or Epic? This is an easy one.

Do they both allow me to play games? Yes. Good enough for me.

 

[Super XP]

Do they both allow me to play games? Yes. Good enough for me.

What guarantee do you have that this store front will be around in a year or two? lol, none

 

[newtekie1]

Do they both allow me to play games? Yes. Good enough for me.

Well, sort of...

On Epic, if you're banned from any game, for any reason, you're entire account is banned and you lose all your games. So if you, for instance, play Fortnite with a VPN program running(not connected, just running in the system tray) you get banned from Fortnite and lose all the games connected to your Epic account.

So, Epic lets you play your games*

*Until they decide not to.

 

[Super XP]

Well, sort of...

On Epic, if you're banned from any game, for any reason, you're entire account is banned and you lose all your games. So if you, for instance, play Fortnite with a VPN program running(not connected, just running in the system tray) you get banned from Fortnite and lose all the games connected to your Epic account.

So, Epic lets you play your games*

*Until they decide not to.

People don't understand the gravity of the situation unfortunately. This is why the majority will wait for a STEAM LAUNCH Version, and there's a reason for that. You just stated one of them, among any more. Epic has no right to Ban anybody for using VPN. This is why it's important for people to speak with there wallets. Do not support such launchers. Period.

 

[rtwjunkie]

What guarantee do you have that this store front will be around in a year or two? lol, none

Lmao!! People said the same thing about Steam. Or do you not remember when they only had a few games?

And...so what? It doesn’t matter. I can get my games elsewhere if one of the largest game companies (Epic) goes under. More than likely tho, your licenses won’t disappear, just like the other game clients. Much ado about nothing.

Like I said, I’m a gamer. I don’t play “Steam”. I play games, on whatever client they are offered. Uplay, Steam, Origin, Epic. GOG is the only one that gets priority for any game that is also offered DRM free. Otherwise, the others all get my business for the games I want to play.

I don’t use a VPN, I don’t play multiplayer or co-op, I am purely single player, and all have the same feature I want: they sell games I want to play.

People like you are going into hysterics over something that really doesn’t matter in the big game of life.

 

[Super XP]

Lmao!! People said the same thing about Steam. Or do you not remember when they only had a few games?

And...so what? It doesn’t matter. I can get my games elsewhere if one of the largest game companies (Epic) goes under. More than likely tho, your licenses won’t disappear, just like the other game clients. Much ado about nothing.

Like I said, I’m a gamer. I don’t play “Steam”. I play games, on whatever client they are offered. Uplay, Steam, Origin, Epic. GOG is the only one that gets priority for any game that is also offered DRM free. Otherwise, the others all get my business for the games I want to play.

I don’t use a VPN, I don’t play multiplayer or co-op, I am purely single player, and all have the same feature I want: they sell games I want to play.

People like you are going into hysterics over something that really doesn’t matter in the big game of life.

I am far from hysterics lol, I simply would like a choice as to how to purchase the game. Enjoy your epic launcher, and I will enjoy Metro Exodus once it arrives on Steam. This may happen sooner all based on the low volume of sales they are experiencing.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Like I said, I don’t have a preference for Epic. It’s where a game I want is sold, period. And for the record, there are dozens, maybe even scores of games that can only be purchased on one of the gaming clients. They each have them.

 

[Crackong]

Like I said, I’m a gamer. I don’t play “Steam”. I play games, on whatever client they are offered.

Well said.
So, what if,
the publisher of your favorite long awaited game decided all digital platforms are too greedy on their cuts,
they dropped them all, all "pre-order" gets refunded and forces you to buy physical DVD copies and has to use good old "Disc checking" DRM.
They claimed this gives them "MOAR MONEY" to develop future games.

Oh btw all these happens 2 weeks before the game launch.

As you said, you play the game, not the platform.
It should be fine for you, right ?

 

[rtwjunkie]

Well said.
So, what if,
the publisher of your favorite long awaited game decided all digital platforms are too greedy on their cuts,
they dropped them all, all "pre-order" gets refunded and forces you to buy physical DVD copies and has to use good old "Disc checking" DRM.
They claimed this gives them "MOAR MONEY" to develop future games.

Oh btw all these happens 2 weeks before the game launch.

As you said, you play the game, not the platform.
It should be fine for you, right ?

I would buy the game in the form offered. Truth be told tho, it’s a fantastical situation, since W10 has specifically blocked most disc based drm from occurring.

Also, the cancelled pre-orders is extreme, you are trying to see how that affects my answer. No pre orders were cancelled with Exodus though.

 

[Crackong]

I would buy the game in the form offered. Truth be told tho, it’s a fantastical situation, since W10 has specifically blocked most disc based drm from occurring.

Also, the cancelled pre-orders is extreme, you are trying to see how that affects my answer. No pre orders were cancelled with Exodus though.

Just a "what if", of cause it will be a little bit extreme.
Still buying it , huh ?
What a "True Gamer".
For me, as a consumer, I cannot tolerate such a bad move.

 

[newtekie1]

Lmao!! People said the same thing about Steam. Or do you not remember when they only had a few games?

And...so what? It doesn’t matter. I can get my games elsewhere if one of the largest game companies (Epic) goes under. More than likely tho, your licenses won’t disappear, just like the other game clients. Much ado about nothing.

Like I said, I’m a gamer. I don’t play “Steam”. I play games, on whatever client they are offered. Uplay, Steam, Origin, Epic. GOG is the only one that gets priority for any game that is also offered DRM free. Otherwise, the others all get my business for the games I want to play.

I don’t use a VPN, I don’t play multiplayer or co-op, I am purely single player, and all have the same feature I want: they sell games I want to play.

People like you are going into hysterics over something that really doesn’t matter in the big game of life.

Again, there are benefits to steam that directly affect my enjoyment of the games I play, so it most definitely is part of the product that is "the game I'm buying". It doesn't have to be multiplayer benefits either, because it isn't with me, because I don't play multiplayer.

And your VPN comment shows exactly how little grasp you have on the situation at hand. The fact that Epic would literally give entire account bans(because that is the only method of bans they have) because someone has a VPN client running in the background shows there is more a major problem with their platform that you should be concerned about. Just the fact that they give entire account bans, so you can't play any of the games you paid for, is a major issue. The fact that they are doing it just because you have software installed on your system that they don't like, is another big red flag issue. What happens when they decide OSD software, like MSI Afterburner, is a bannable offense and ban your account for that? To defend such behavior, especially with such a weak defence as "it doesn't affect me so you shouldn't be mad about it and no one should be worried about it" is laughable.

 

[Super XP]

Again, there are benefits to steam that directly affect my enjoyment of the games I play, so it most definitely is part of the product that is "the game I'm buying". It doesn't have to be multiplayer benefits either, because it isn't with me, because I don't play multiplayer.

And your VPN comment shows exactly how little grasp you have on the situation at hand. The fact that Epic would literally give entire account bans(because that is the only method of bans they have) because someone has a VPN client running in the background shows there is more a major problem with their platform that you should be concerned about. Just the fact that they give entire account bans, so you can't play any of the games you paid for, is a major issue. The fact that they are doing it just because you have software installed on your system that they don't like, is another big red flag issue. What happens when they decide OSD software, like MSI Afterburner, is a bannable offense and ban your account for that? To defend such behavior, especially with such a weak defence as "it doesn't affect me so you shouldn't be mad about it and no one should be worried about it" is laughable.

Couldn't have said it any better.