Maybe the availability is good it's just the demand is off the charts and that's why there's shortage of 3900X CPUs.
I doubt that. Internet is full of availability complains and not so full of customer reviews. Proportions are wrong: people in communities like this one usually go for the top chip.
I don't think that many people got the 3900X they wanted.
In the end a shortage is a shortage. And the MCM route should let AMD adjust very quickly to the market.
CPUs we buy today were manufactured after launch, so AMD already had some demand feedback.
So either they aren't ready to make a lot of 3900X (frequency-wise) or we overestimate the demand.
Remember, it's not just us regular consumers buying the chips but also companies for building their own desktop brands etc. and this particular processor has been welcomed very much.
Oh, I really doubt that.
AMD made a fairly brave bet that the market will accept the lack of IGP. That clients will accept bigger PCs with additional card (and fan). And that OEMs will redesign their small form factor cases to house a GPU.
2 years later we know how the market responded: mostly by giving a finger.
Dell currently offers just the Area 51 freak (TR 2950X), Lenovo has one gaming PC with 2400G...
Mobile Ryzen CPUs are getting some traction - and that's good because they are good chips.
Also, keep in mind OEM business PCs need a Ryzen PRO variant, which hasn't been announced yet.
There's demand for 3700x and 3800x as well. AMD will not ditch one tier to satisfy ones ego.
But the margin on 3900X would be much, much higher.
No one says they should dump the cheaper CPUs. But situation like we discuss here shouldn't happen.
OP is prepared to pay for 3900X, but he is forced to get a cheaper model.
AMD just lost a few dozen USD.
Besides, they know what they are doing I'm sure of that.
You may be sure, but the general opinion is mixed. So lets be gentle and say it is debatable.
AMD clearly has brilliant engineers. Surely, being the second largest x86 chip maker, they employ some of the best brains in the business - even if they're mostly leftovers from Intel and Apple.
But as a company - looking at product positioning, legal, support, marketing and even the website - they look like a big mess.
Maybe they just aren't that hot as an employer and they can't get the best people.
Also the 3900x seems to be better binned chip and maybe the 3700x and 3800x can't work as 3900X's.
Precisely what I said. But if 3900X had the same clocks 3700X has, would it make it any less unique?
I think they just didn't have balls to make a "work" CPU. They mostly sell to gamers and the simple fact is: if 3900X had lower clocks than 3700X, it would give less fps. And that wouldn't look very well in reviews.
3950X also has slightly higher boost clocks despite 16 cores. Base clock is lower to meet the TDP.