System Name | Graphics Card Free... |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600G |
Motherboard | MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX Wifi |
Cooling | Cryorig M9a w/ BeQuiet! PureWings 2 ~ 92mm |
Memory | Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 3200 ~ 16GB(2x8GB) |
Storage | Samsung EVO 870 SSD - 1TB |
Display(s) | AOC 24G2 |
Case | Cardboard... |
Power Supply | eVGA SuperNova 550w G3 |
Mouse | Logitech t400 Zone Touch Mouse |
Keyboard | IBM Model "M" Keyboard |
Software | Manjaro ~ KDE Plasma |
Benchmark Scores | She's a Runner! |
Thanks for the spreadsheet msthenholm.
I appreciate this thread...I'm also in the market for a B450 motherboard. I've got an extra Ryzen 3 2200g that I want to put to good use. Currently trying to find a board for it...or use my current board and get a new board for my Ryzen 5 2600(Can't decide).
I've had good luck with my current Asrock motherboard. Dare I say...it's perfect. Gigabyte? I didn't have good luck with Gigabyte. I tried one of their mini-itx boards and returned it. Loud chipset whine. As far as MSI goes, I'm not familiar with the current MSI boards. Although...that is precisely what I've been looking at.
This board in particular.
MSI B450 Gaming PRO Carbon AC
It's a little more than I'd like to spend though...especially with a chip that costs 1/2 the price of the board.
At that premum of a price...I think ShrimpBrime is correct. Better start looking at Asus. At least that's what I'm going to be doing tonight.
Best,
Liquid Cool
System Name | Dreamstation2 |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 3700X |
Motherboard | MSI X470 Gaming Plus |
Cooling | Hyper 212 Black Edition |
Memory | Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4 3200 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Aorus 2080 Ti Turbo (sounds like a vaccum cleaner at full load) |
Storage | 2 x 1TB M.2 NVME + 1TB 2.5" SSD |
Display(s) | Samsung Odyssey G7 32" 4k |
Case | NZXT H500i |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar U3 / Audio-Technica ATH-M50x / Edifier R1855DB |
Power Supply | Corsair TX650M |
Mouse | Corsair Scimitar Pro RGB |
Keyboard | Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L |
I had similar experience with my MSI X470 Gaming Plus (non-Max):The only good B450 line up is from MSI. This doesn't apply to other chipsets. They have the best CPU VRMs on the market and the rest falls way behind.
In the lower end, you have the Gaming Plus. The Tomahawk takes the crown for best mid-range boards. Going up a step you have the Gaming Pro Carbon. I have the Gaming Plus non-Max, with the updated BIOS. Beware that it's a bit buggy. Though, every B450 boards are buggy with Ryzen 3000 CPUs anyway.
Asrock and Gigabyte are not crap. Gigabyte makes the best high-end X570 boards. FYI, the Asrock B450 Pro 4 is the only comparable board to MSI's B450 line up on the same price.
System Name | Gaming System / HTPC-Server |
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Processor | i7 8700K (@4.8 Ghz All-Core) / R7 5900X |
Motherboard | Z370 Aorus Ultra Gaming / MSI B450 Mortar Max |
Cooling | CM ML360 / CM ML240L |
Memory | 16Gb Hynix @3200 MHz / 16Gb Hynix @3000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 3080 / Colorful 1060 |
Storage | 750G MX300 + 2x500G NVMe / 40Tb Reds + 1Tb WD Blue NVMe |
Display(s) | LG 27GN800-B 27'' 2K 144Hz / Sony TV |
Case | Xigmatek Aquarius Plus / Corsair Air 240 |
Audio Device(s) | On Board Realtek |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex III Gold 750W / Andyson TX-700 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero / K400+ |
Keyboard | Wooting Two / K400+ |
Software | Windows 10 x64 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R15 = 1542 3D Mark Timespy = 9758 |
I'm currently deciding between an AsRock B450M - Pro4-F Vs. B450M Steel Legend as my current Gigabyte X370 has big problems running the 3600 (Boost does not work at all)
Both seem like solid boards, and I'm erring towards the Pro4-F as it seems to be able to handle more powerful chips despite it being only 3x2 Phase vs. the 4-true phases of the steel legend.
System Name | Gaming System / HTPC-Server |
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Processor | i7 8700K (@4.8 Ghz All-Core) / R7 5900X |
Motherboard | Z370 Aorus Ultra Gaming / MSI B450 Mortar Max |
Cooling | CM ML360 / CM ML240L |
Memory | 16Gb Hynix @3200 MHz / 16Gb Hynix @3000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 3080 / Colorful 1060 |
Storage | 750G MX300 + 2x500G NVMe / 40Tb Reds + 1Tb WD Blue NVMe |
Display(s) | LG 27GN800-B 27'' 2K 144Hz / Sony TV |
Case | Xigmatek Aquarius Plus / Corsair Air 240 |
Audio Device(s) | On Board Realtek |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex III Gold 750W / Andyson TX-700 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero / K400+ |
Keyboard | Wooting Two / K400+ |
Software | Windows 10 x64 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R15 = 1542 3D Mark Timespy = 9758 |
These number-of-phase arguments are getting a bit pretentious nowadays. A more efficient VRM design + good heatsinks trample number of true phases any time of the day. With Steel Legend's heatsinks Asrock went for bling bling instead of functionality as they did with the Pro 4.
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
System Name | Gaming System / HTPC-Server |
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Processor | i7 8700K (@4.8 Ghz All-Core) / R7 5900X |
Motherboard | Z370 Aorus Ultra Gaming / MSI B450 Mortar Max |
Cooling | CM ML360 / CM ML240L |
Memory | 16Gb Hynix @3200 MHz / 16Gb Hynix @3000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 3080 / Colorful 1060 |
Storage | 750G MX300 + 2x500G NVMe / 40Tb Reds + 1Tb WD Blue NVMe |
Display(s) | LG 27GN800-B 27'' 2K 144Hz / Sony TV |
Case | Xigmatek Aquarius Plus / Corsair Air 240 |
Audio Device(s) | On Board Realtek |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex III Gold 750W / Andyson TX-700 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero / K400+ |
Keyboard | Wooting Two / K400+ |
Software | Windows 10 x64 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R15 = 1542 3D Mark Timespy = 9758 |
System Name | Ciel |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen R5 5600X |
Motherboard | Asus Tuf Gaming B550 Plus |
Cooling | ID-Cooling 224-XT Basic |
Memory | 2x 16GB Kingston Fury 3600MHz@3933MHz |
Video Card(s) | Gainward Ghost 3060 Ti 8GB + Sapphire Pulse RX 6600 8GB |
Storage | NVMe Kingston KC3000 2TB + NVMe Toshiba KBG40ZNT256G + HDD WD 4TB |
Display(s) | AOC Q27G3XMN + Samsung S22F350 |
Case | Cougar MX410 Mesh-G |
Audio Device(s) | Kingston HyperX Cloud Stinger Core 7.1 Wireless PC |
Power Supply | Aerocool KCAS-500W |
Mouse | EVGA X15 |
Keyboard | VSG Alnilam |
Software | Windows 11 |
System Name | Gaming System / HTPC-Server |
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Processor | i7 8700K (@4.8 Ghz All-Core) / R7 5900X |
Motherboard | Z370 Aorus Ultra Gaming / MSI B450 Mortar Max |
Cooling | CM ML360 / CM ML240L |
Memory | 16Gb Hynix @3200 MHz / 16Gb Hynix @3000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 3080 / Colorful 1060 |
Storage | 750G MX300 + 2x500G NVMe / 40Tb Reds + 1Tb WD Blue NVMe |
Display(s) | LG 27GN800-B 27'' 2K 144Hz / Sony TV |
Case | Xigmatek Aquarius Plus / Corsair Air 240 |
Audio Device(s) | On Board Realtek |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex III Gold 750W / Andyson TX-700 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero / K400+ |
Keyboard | Wooting Two / K400+ |
Software | Windows 10 x64 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R15 = 1542 3D Mark Timespy = 9758 |
Integrated 3000 series support, and maybe some AMD recommendations to run the 3950X without problems?
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
PCIe 3.0 over PCIe 2.0 between the CPU and the chipset at the very least.Does the B550 actually bring much over the B450?
What MOBO would be compatible with this memory?
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4-28800) C18 1.35V Desktop Memory - Black at Amazon.com
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MSI Tomahawk
MSI PRO-VDH
ASRock Steel Legend
MSI B450 Gaming Plus ATX
Why? I saw a lot of recommendations on reddit on the pro vdhAll of the above, but I don't recommend the PRO-VDH nor the Steel Legend.
System Name | Aliens Ryzen Rig | 2nd Hand Omen |
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Processor | Ryzen R5 5600 | Ryzen R5 3600 |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite (F61 BIOS) | B450 matx |
Cooling | DeepCool Castle EX V2 240mm AIO| stock for now |
Memory | 8GB X 2 DDR4 3000mhz Team Group Vulcan | 16GB DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse RX 5700 8GB | GTX 1650 4GB |
Storage | Adata XPG 8200 PRO 512GB SSD OS / 240 SSD + 2TB M.2 SSD Games / 1000 GB Data | SSD + HDD |
Display(s) | Acer ED273 27" VA 144hz Freesync |TCL 32" 1080P w/ HDR |
Case | NZXT H500 Black | HP Omen Obelisk |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard Realtek | Onboard Realtek |
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650w 80+ Gold | 500w |
Mouse | Steelseries Rival 500 15 button mouse w/ Razor Goliathus Chroma XL mousemat | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 Orion Spark RGB w/ Romer G tactile keys | Logitech G513 Carbon w/ Romer G tactile keys |
Software | Windows 10 Pro | Windows 10 Pro |
Would be more helpful / informative if you stated why rather than just say what I quotedAll of the above, but I don't recommend the PRO-VDH nor the Steel Legend.
Why? I saw a lot of recommendations on reddit on the pro vdh
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 3700x |
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Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix X470-F Gaming |
Cooling | Scythe Ninja 5 |
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2 x 8GB) (F4-3600C16D-16GVKC) @ 3733 MHz 16-19-19-19-36-56 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2060 Super Armor OC 8GB |
Storage | 1x Samsung 970 EVO 500GB / 3x Crucial MX500 / 4 HDDs |
Display(s) | Dell 23" LCD S2316M |
Case | Rosewill Rise Glow |
Power Supply | CORSAIR RM650 |
Mouse | Cooler Master MS120 |
Keyboard | Cooler Master MS120 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro x64 |
System Name | Aliens Ryzen Rig | 2nd Hand Omen |
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Processor | Ryzen R5 5600 | Ryzen R5 3600 |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite (F61 BIOS) | B450 matx |
Cooling | DeepCool Castle EX V2 240mm AIO| stock for now |
Memory | 8GB X 2 DDR4 3000mhz Team Group Vulcan | 16GB DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse RX 5700 8GB | GTX 1650 4GB |
Storage | Adata XPG 8200 PRO 512GB SSD OS / 240 SSD + 2TB M.2 SSD Games / 1000 GB Data | SSD + HDD |
Display(s) | Acer ED273 27" VA 144hz Freesync |TCL 32" 1080P w/ HDR |
Case | NZXT H500 Black | HP Omen Obelisk |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard Realtek | Onboard Realtek |
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650w 80+ Gold | 500w |
Mouse | Steelseries Rival 500 15 button mouse w/ Razor Goliathus Chroma XL mousemat | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 Orion Spark RGB w/ Romer G tactile keys | Logitech G513 Carbon w/ Romer G tactile keys |
Software | Windows 10 Pro | Windows 10 Pro |
B450 AORUS ELITE (rev. 1.0) | Motherboard - GIGABYTE U.K.
AMD B450 AORUS Motherboard with Hybrid Digital PWM, Dual M.2 with One Thermal Guard, RGB FUSION 2.0, GIGABYTE Gaming LAN with Bandwidth Management, CEC 2019...www.gigabyte.com
Thats mine under $100 and works like a dream has everything I need.
System Name | Gaming System / HTPC-Server |
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Processor | i7 8700K (@4.8 Ghz All-Core) / R7 5900X |
Motherboard | Z370 Aorus Ultra Gaming / MSI B450 Mortar Max |
Cooling | CM ML360 / CM ML240L |
Memory | 16Gb Hynix @3200 MHz / 16Gb Hynix @3000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 3080 / Colorful 1060 |
Storage | 750G MX300 + 2x500G NVMe / 40Tb Reds + 1Tb WD Blue NVMe |
Display(s) | LG 27GN800-B 27'' 2K 144Hz / Sony TV |
Case | Xigmatek Aquarius Plus / Corsair Air 240 |
Audio Device(s) | On Board Realtek |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex III Gold 750W / Andyson TX-700 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero / K400+ |
Keyboard | Wooting Two / K400+ |
Software | Windows 10 x64 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R15 = 1542 3D Mark Timespy = 9758 |
Thanks for the explanation! I think if I'll find it in a good price I'll takw the Pro4. Although I'll wait for the B550 release and see what's upHmm, Sorry. I must had been doing something else in parallel. The Pro VDH is actually a decent motherboard, but it's the worst out of all good MSI's B450 (the pro-m2 is too low to be considered) except boards and doesn't have new features. For the same price, the B450M Pro 4 offers you with RGB, USB type-C, double M.2 slot, and doesn't look too bare bones aesthetically (personal opinion). Going either way would be fine if you don't care about any of these (it was my personal opinion anyway) and when it comes to CPU VRM, the MSI is slightly better but not by much. For the Steel Legend though, I don't recommend it just because you have flat out better MSI options out there.
Thanks for the tip! I saw a lot of shops sell this MOBO and wasn't sure its worth anythingI have an Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming MB with a 3700x (I upgraded from a 2600) and I am very happy with it.
From what I have heard this MB is now shipping with a BIOS that will allow you to use a 3000 Series CPU out of the box.
So as long as the MB Box has the Ryzen 3000 Desktop Ready Sticker, it will work with a 3600 out of the box.
Shane.. It seema quite popular here so it was also an optionI got an MSI Mortar Max to replace my Gigabyte AX370M-DS3H in anticipation of getting better boost clocks.
Unfortunately, it boosts exactly the same, an all core boost of 3.925 on a R5 3600, hopefully though, I won't see the crashes that I was seeing on my gigabyte board.
If I do, then I think it need to replace the CPU
System Name | Gaming System / HTPC-Server |
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Processor | i7 8700K (@4.8 Ghz All-Core) / R7 5900X |
Motherboard | Z370 Aorus Ultra Gaming / MSI B450 Mortar Max |
Cooling | CM ML360 / CM ML240L |
Memory | 16Gb Hynix @3200 MHz / 16Gb Hynix @3000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 3080 / Colorful 1060 |
Storage | 750G MX300 + 2x500G NVMe / 40Tb Reds + 1Tb WD Blue NVMe |
Display(s) | LG 27GN800-B 27'' 2K 144Hz / Sony TV |
Case | Xigmatek Aquarius Plus / Corsair Air 240 |
Audio Device(s) | On Board Realtek |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex III Gold 750W / Andyson TX-700 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero / K400+ |
Keyboard | Wooting Two / K400+ |
Software | Windows 10 x64 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R15 = 1542 3D Mark Timespy = 9758 |
Thanks for the explanation! I think if I'll find it in a good price I'll takw the Pro4. Although I'll wait for the B550 release and see what's up
Thanks for the tip! I saw a lot of shops sell this MOBO and wasn't sure its worth anything
Shane.. It seema quite popular here so it was also an option