How many of you Radeon 5700 owners have ditched your cards over the drivers?

[EarthDog]

No way is this thread still going as is.

You have Carlton the 2070 owner and most vocal neg man, a couple of actual owners one of which, one is involved in arguing with said informed guy that his works, and is getting stick for it.
Another who fixed most issues and is glossed over and loads moaning about everything from Vega 56 to big Navi.

Useful not.

Well........ the reality is that anecdotes are pretty useless here. We all (should) know that this doesn't effect everyone. In fact, I would imagine this effects less than 5% of Navi users... likely half that or less. HOWEVER, that value is still, seemingly, A LOT more than typical complaints and has been going on for some time now. This started with Navi's release, should have gotten better with Adrenalin 2020 months later, but didn't (in fact it got worse). Although we see some fix notes about black screen and other issues and they are working hard on it, AMD still clearly lists it as a "Known Issue" and has been listed like that (among other black screen issues in specific titles that have/have not been resolved) for a year.

Clearly the truth lay somewhere between... 'it isn't happening to me therefore it is resolved' to 'zOMG the drivers BLOW'..... lol.

There really isn't any getting around, currently, users are more likely to run into issues with AMD drivers than Nvidia. Is that 1% to 2%? Who knows... but I feel confident stating this.

Stahp.

Report instead of adding another post is likely better.

That said, the discussion is on topic, is it not? This is all about the back and forth about drivers... who ditched it, who didn't... etc.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Well........ the reality is that anecdotes are pretty useless here. We all (should) know that this doesn't effect everyone. In fact, I would imagine this effects less than 5% of Navi users... likely half that or less. HOWEVER, that value is still, seemingly, A LOT more than typical complaints and has been going on for some time now. This started with Navi's release, should have gotten better with Adrenalin 2020 months later, but didn't (in fact it got worse). Although we see some fix notes about black screen and other issues and they are working hard on it, AMD still clearly lists it as a "Known Issue" and has been listed like that (among other black screen issues in specific titles that have/have not been resolved) for a year.

Clearly the truth lay somewhere between... 'it isn't happening to me therefore it is resolved' to 'zOMG the drivers BLOW'..... lol.

There really isn't any getting around, currently, users are more likely to run into issues with AMD drivers than Nvidia. Is that 1% to 2%? Who knows... but I feel confident stating this.
Report instead of adding another post is likely better.

That said, the discussion is on topic, is it not? This is all about the back and forth about drivers... who ditched it, who didn't... etc.

At page 17 I would expect more input from actual owners who actually either have a problem they need help resolving or to report that they indeed returned their card.
Tangential moaners need not apply.

Not much of that going on though.

 

[EarthDog]

At page 17 I would expect more input from actual owners who actually either have a problem they need help resolving or to report that they indeed returned their card.
Tangential moaners need not apply.

Not much of that going on though.

Tangential cheerleaders also need not apply then, right?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

That said, the discussion is on topic, is it not? This is all about the back and forth about drivers... who ditched it, who didn't... etc.

I think if the title was changed to how many Nvidia owners think Navi still has problems it would more fit the recent conversations in this thread.

 

[Nεøn]

I got my XFX RX 5700 XT Triple Dissipation 8GB GDDR6 last Thursday and I have to say coming from an R9 380 4G it is a blast. I got some problems with the newest Radeon Driver but just with some special setting in Warzone. I am currently on 20.2.2 which works fine but i did not test Warzone in this specific settings until now so maybe it even works with the 20.4.2.

But i have to say you cannot find much about this GPU maybe because it is new (late april). It is supposed to have 1925MHz core clock (Boost) but somehow MSI shows me 2100MHz which is a bit odd but whatever.
Also temps are really good. Under full load i never got more than 70°C even without a custom fan curve

So I am pretty happy with the card and I think i will keep it

 

[Decryptor009]

I got my XFX RX 5700 XT Triple Dissipation 8GB GDDR6 last Thursday and I have to say coming from an R9 380 4G it is a blast. I got some problems with the newest Radeon Driver but just with some special setting in Warzone. I am currently on 20.2.2 which works fine but i did not test Warzone in this specific settings until now so maybe it even works with the 20.4.2.

But i have to say you cannot find much about this GPU maybe because it is new (late april). It is supposed to have 1925MHz core clock (Boost) but somehow MSI shows me 2100MHz which is a bit odd but whatever.
Also temps are really good. Under full load i never got more than 70°C even without a custom fan curve

So I am pretty happy with the card and I think i will keep it

Yes my card is reported at 2010mhz but will hit 2050 or exceed that.

 

[ratirt]

I got my XFX RX 5700 XT Triple Dissipation 8GB GDDR6 last Thursday and I have to say coming from an R9 380 4G it is a blast. I got some problems with the newest Radeon Driver but just with some special setting in Warzone. I am currently on 20.2.2 which works fine but i did not test Warzone in this specific settings until now so maybe it even works with the 20.4.2.

But i have to say you cannot find much about this GPU maybe because it is new (late april). It is supposed to have 1925MHz core clock (Boost) but somehow MSI shows me 2100MHz which is a bit odd but whatever.
Also temps are really good. Under full load i never got more than 70°C even without a custom fan curve

So I am pretty happy with the card and I think i will keep it

There is a new driver release 20.5.1. Maybe you should consider updating.

 

[EarthDog]

I think if the title was changed to how many Nvidia owners think Navi still has problems it would more fit the recent conversations in this thread.

Good point. We can also change it to how many AMD owners that don't have Navi believe it isn't a problem.

I digress.

 

[jayseearr]

^That's not something a new customer shouldn't even have to worry about in my opinion. You mentioned you're running on 20.2 and aren't sure bout 20.4? If you JUST got your card last Thursday, ideally you should have automatically updated to the most recent recommended or optional drivers and fired it up right? The average consumer isn't worried about how their GPU is binned or memory frequencies or any of that they just want to plug the GPU into the pci/psu, download the drivers and software, set to auto update and not have to worry about it again. With that said, I'm glad your experience is going well so far and i hope it continues that way after you've had some time to collect some actual data

 

[95Viper]

Quit the arguing and off topic BS.

Thank You and Have a Good Day

 

[wiak]

1. overclocking
2. bad power supply + 1
3. set radeon software profile to anything that's not standard profile
4. PCIe 4.0 issues?

this is probably the reasons why people have issues

i have a 5700 XT Red Dragon, i have had no issues with black screen, blue screen or any crash, ive had mine since christmas

case in point, hardwareunboxed has had no issues either, soo i suspect it might be people thinking overclocking leads to no problems, given the fact that overclocking always lead to unstable system, why? i know because i have tried, some programs might work fine, but others like video encoding will crash, latest ryzen dont overclock well anway soo

5700 XT 8GB Red Dragon
Corsair AX 850W from 2011 (its 10 years next year
Ryzen 1700X with noctua cooler
Gigabyte B450 ITX
3x Dell U2412M 1080p (DP)

 

[ratirt]

1. overclocking
2. bad power supply + 1
3. set radeon software profile to anything that's not standard profile
4. PCIe 4.0 issues?

this is probably the reasons why people have issues

i have a 5700 XT Red Dragon, i have had no issues with black screen, blue screen or any crash, ive had mine since christmas

case in point, hardwareunboxed has had no issues either, soo i suspect it might be people thinking overclocking leads to no problems, given the fact that overclocking always lead to unstable system, why? i know because i have tried, some programs might work fine, but others like video encoding will crash, latest ryzen dont overclock well anway soo

5700 XT 8GB Red Dragon
Corsair AX 850W from 2011 (its 10 years next year
Ryzen 1700X with noctua cooler
Gigabyte B450 ITX
3x Dell U2412M 1080p (DP)

I had the AXi Corsair 760W and that was my problem. It's been with me around the time you have yours. I would suggest changing it as soon as possible. The PSU has damaged my vega 64 and didn't run OK with 5600XT. Even one of the 5500XT's I bought for my TR's had a problem with that old PSU.

 

[EarthDog]

i have a 5700 XT Red Dragon, i have had no issues with black screen, blue screen or any crash, ive had mine since christmas

SUrely some of it is... however the bigger issue is at stock and black screens still being a problem.

Glad yours worked!

 

[ratirt]

SUrely some of it is... however the bigger issue is at stock and black screens still being a problem.

Glad yours worked!

My blackscreen where due to the PSU. It started with Vega and had few with 5600XT, the 5500XT (one of them) didn't even boot to windows. Bought SeaSonic 750W Gold and no problems since.

 

[wiak]

My blackscreen where due to the PSU. It started with Vega and had few with 5600XT, the 5500XT (one of them) didn't even boot to windows. Bought SeaSonic 750W Gold and no problems since.

it seems radeons are more sensitive to voltage or ripple variations

 

[Nεøn]

^That's not something a new customer shouldn't even have to worry about in my opinion. You mentioned you're running on 20.2 and aren't sure bout 20.4? If you JUST got your card last Thursday, ideally you should have automatically updated to the most recent recommended or optional drivers and fired it up right? The average consumer isn't worried about how their GPU is binned or memory frequencies or any of that they just want to plug the GPU into the pci/psu, download the drivers and software, set to auto update and not have to worry about it again. With that said, I'm glad your experience is going well so far and i hope it continues that way after you've had some time to collect some actual data

Yes i put the card in and installed the newest drivers which is indeed the 20.4.2 (non beta) and I did not had any problems the card worked right away and it ran everything i tested. But then i activated SSA and Ambient Occlusion and my PC would crash when playing or starting a match but only and specifically in Warzone every other game would ran completly fine so its not that big of a deal. I will update later this day and try it again without SSA or Ambient Occlusion It even says ingame you should have 2x TSMAA ?Filmic? on when using SSA and AO because of flickering.

By the way why is the XFX Triple Dissipation not in the GPU Database? There is like nothing about this card going around like nobody knows it really exists even tho it is know nearly 2 months "old"

 

[EarthDog]

My blackscreen where due to the PSU. It started with Vega and had few with 5600XT, the 5500XT (one of them) didn't even boot to windows. Bought SeaSonic 750W Gold and no problems since.

Cool. Sounds unrelated to this, however. If the fix was that easy, we would have seen that propagate the web over the past year.

it seems radeons are more sensitive to voltage or ripple variations

If that were true, wouldn't we see users with potato PSUs having this issue?

 

[jayseearr]

So you installed the recommended driver and immediately started experiencing issues in your practical applications? The writing is on the wall already my friend. that sounds like a issue that is probably driver or software related. All the bells and whistles in that AMD software sure do look pretty but it's kind of pointless when alot of the options either don't work or are known to cause issues with many hardware configs. There are some fundamental issues with their software that are just as bad as the driver issues if not worse in terms of creating system instability. Keep the card if you want man i wish you good luck either way!

 

[EarthDog]

So you installed the recommended driver and immediately started experiencing issues in your practical applications? The writing is on the wall already my friend. that sounds like a issue that is probably driver or software related. All the bells and whistles in that AMD software sure do look pretty but it's kind of pointless when alot of the options either don't work or are known to cause issues with many hardware configs. There are some fundamental issues with their software that are just as bad as the driver issues if not worse in terms of creating system instability. Keep the card if you want man i wish you good luck either way!

You should quote who you are talking to.... a couple of times I've looked at your posts having no idea who you are responding to.

 

[R-T-B]

Report instead of adding another post is likely better.

Yes, you are right. My brain fails late at night though and I resort to memes. My apologies. Don't look in the lounge, I shit in there at night regularly and call it a post.

Still, I will admit I can/should do better.

 

[Decryptor009]

Yes, you are right. My brain fails late at night though and I resort to memes. My apologies. Don't look in the lounge, I shit in there at night regularly and call it a post.

Still, I will admit I can/should do better.

You sexy person....

See my avatar.

 

[ratirt]

it seems radeons are more sensitive to voltage or ripple variations

That was also my guess. Older PSU's lose some of their efficiency with time which causes voltage fluctuations. Considering the 5000 series cards being maxed out (almost), these fluctuations are not welcome.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Fan control is definitely something to watch out for. The software loves to randomly change my settings and stick my GPU on 0rpm mode where it's essentially stuck in idle mode.(particularly after driver upates) For me personally that's just one of the many things within radeon's software that has caused functionality/stability issues in the past.

At one point with the AMD drivers I remember having a zero rpm issue as well both with rx560 and rx5700. I kept trying to turn off 0 rpm mode but some how it didn't take or when it finally did it didn't seem to survive reboot.

SUrely some of it is... however the bigger issue is at stock and black screens still being a problem.

Glad yours worked!

The black screen problem is really what almost drove me to the point of ditching the card because it made my system completely unusable. I'm pretty sure a driver update fixed it for me but I had also been trying a few other things so I can't be sure if a driver update or combination of things resolved my issue.

 

[jayseearr]

At one point with the AMD drivers I remember having a zero rpm issue as well both with rx560 and rx5700. I kept trying to turn off 0 rpm mode but some how it didn't take or when it finally did it didn't seem to survive reboot.

This is a problem that still persists to this day and it's been well over a year that it has been a known issue.

 

[INSTG8R]

I got my XFX RX 5700 XT Triple Dissipation 8GB GDDR6 last Thursday and I have to say coming from an R9 380 4G it is a blast. I got some problems with the newest Radeon Driver but just with some special setting in Warzone. I am currently on 20.2.2 which works fine but i did not test Warzone in this specific settings until now so maybe it even works with the 20.4.2.

But i have to say you cannot find much about this GPU maybe because it is new (late april). It is supposed to have 1925MHz core clock (Boost) but somehow MSI shows me 2100MHz which is a bit odd but whatever.
Also temps are really good. Under full load i never got more than 70°C even without a custom fan curve

So I am pretty happy with the card and I think i will keep it

Yes my card is reported at 2010mhz but will hit 2050 or exceed that.

That’s because the boosts were increased awhile.ago via drivers. Just a little free extra performance everyone got.