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Between RWBY, High Score Girl, Kemono Friends, and now GITS... the new "Cheap 3D" look is growing on me somewhat. I understand it is a cheaper medium to deliver the stories, and I accept it for what it is. Not every studio can be UFOTable / Aniplex rolling with tons of money and an army of artists... figuring out how to make cheaper anime is a noble goal IMO.

In the case of High Score Girl, the 3d seemed cheap on a superficial level, but there was a lot of love and effort into replicating the 2d sprites from those old arcade games.

With that being said, I haven't seen GITS yet. I never was a big fan of that series, but maybe I'll check it out one day.
Do check out the OVA as that pretty much is deemed near masterpiece and in same league as Akira, the 80 and 90s OVA may feel they were cut short and lot of things unexplained but thats what makes them unique and great. The animation of that era was in its league of its own compared to other animations and the soundtrack aswell.
 
Do check out the OVA as that pretty much is deemed near masterpiece and in same league as Akira, the 80 and 90s OVA may feel they were cut short and lot of things unexplained but thats what makes them unique and great. The animation of that era was in its league of its own compared to other animations and the soundtrack aswell.

Oh, I've seen the original GITS and SAC. I just haven't seen the Netflix 3d one yet.
 
Started watching Somali and the Forest Spirit - I like it, it has nice art style and that feel good vibe that lets you relax and enjoy the show.
 
is it me, or has there been very little anime worth watching for a while
 
is it me, or has there been very little anime worth watching for a while

yeah but this little gem caught my attention. Might give 1st episode a try when it airs.
 
is it me, or has there been very little anime worth watching for a while

"My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom!" is surprisingly good IMO. It is a comedy and therefore very subjective, but a large number of people I've shown seem to enjoy it. Give it a shot and see if it matches your sense of humor.

EDIT: I think what makes the "Villainess" anime have such wide appeal, is that most video game players HAVE played a dating sim before, even if they haven't noticed it. Mass Effect, Witcher, Fire Emblem, etc. etc. There's a lot of "video game romance" out there, and Villainess manages to be the first isekai to really poke fun at the dating-sim concept. The main character thinks like a dating-sim power gamer, focusing on the "key words" to say to the various characters to make the best route for her to open up. The dichotomy between common sense and video-game logic / romance just has a lot of rich and unexplored comedy.

The show manages to poke fun at video game logic, while still celebrating it. Its all in good fun.

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A lot of top-tier anime have been delayed due to COVID19. Of the delays, "The Promised Neverland" was probably the strongest anime I've seen in the past 5 years, and season 2 has been COVID19 delayed. Evangelion 3.0+1.0, Re:Zero Season 2, Promised Neverland, Slime season 2, Higurashi (Reboot) have all been COVID19 delayed. Same with Digimon Adventure (2020 / Reboot). And those are the ones I was personally excited for... plenty of other ones that were COVID19 delayed.

There's also the Kyoto Animation Arson Attack. The studio is still recovering from the death of dozens of their directors, artists. And the fire destroyed computers and animations that Kyoto animation was working on. For long-time anime fans, the lack of Kyoto Animation this year is very pronounced, especially because of how good of a studio they were.
 
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is it me, or has there been very little anime worth watching for a while

I think you missed Kakushigoto and honzuki Gekokujou, hamefura too like mentioned...
Listener is also something interesting, it's a mech anime a little different from the usual...
There's also Gleipnir, quite unlike everything else...
 
honzuki Gekokujou, hamefura too like mentioned...

Ascendance of a Bookworm (Honzuki Gekokujou), and Villainess, All Routes Lead to Doom (Hamefura).

I haven't seen Ascendance of a Bookworm yet. Its another Isekai that has become very popular recently, mostly focusing on worldbuilding and low-key "Iyashikei"... Iyashikei directly translates into "healing", and is a genre of anime / video games associated with low-stress, low-stakes plot. Focused on character development and just day-to-day interactions.

My sister hates this genre with a passion, so its not really for everyone. I'd compare Iyashikei to Animal Crossing, Ponyo, Laid Back Camp, K-On, Encouragement of Climb.

Western examples include Winnie the Pooh, Doug, Author. Its all about low-stress and taking each episode one at a time at a leisurely pace.
 
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Ascendance of a Bookworm (Honzuki Gekokujou), and Villainess, All Routes Lead to Doom (Hamefura).

I haven't seen Ascendance of a Bookworm yet. Its another Isekai that has become very popular recently, mostly focusing on worldbuilding and low-key "Iyashikei"... Iyashikei directly translates into "healing", and is a genre of anime / video games associated with low-stress, low-stakes plot. Focused on character development and just day-to-day interactions.

My sister hates this genre with a passion, so its not really for everyone. I'd compare Iyashikei to Animal Crossing, Ponyo, Laid Back Camp, K-On, Encouragement of Climb.

Western examples include Winnie the Pooh, Doug, Author. Its all about low-stress and taking each episode one at a time at a leisurely pace.

Well, there is plot progression and character progression and the story is really good...
 
Between RWBY, High Score Girl, Kemono Friends, and now GITS... the new "Cheap 3D" look is growing on me somewhat. I understand it is a cheaper medium to deliver the stories, and I accept it for what it is. Not every studio can be UFOTable / Aniplex rolling with tons of money and an army of artists... figuring out how to make cheaper anime is a noble goal IMO.

In the case of High Score Girl, the 3d seemed cheap on a superficial level, but there was a lot of love and effort into replicating the 2d sprites from those old arcade games.

With that being said, I haven't seen GITS yet. I never was a big fan of that series, but maybe I'll check it out one day.

GitS SAC_2045 is... bad. It's bad. Not terribly bad, but bad enough that if you're a fan of the series and characters and universe, you'll want to steer clear.

The biggest problem is that they followed on from Arise (which itself wasn't particularly great) and made the Major a f**king high-school girl. NO, THAT IS NOT WHAT MOTOKO KUSANAGI IS ABOUT. Motoko Kusanagi is about being a certified bada** who can go toe-to-toe with pretty much anything - she's a powerful woman in a powerful cyborg body. She does not need to look like a high-school girl to be attractive, her intellect and determination and poise and power and mystery is what makes her attractive.

Then you have the s**tty 3D and the fact that the series is set in America, which works about as well as you'd expect. Avoid, avoid, avoid.

My sister hates this genre with a passion, so its not really for everyone.

Iyashikei isekai in general is far better than the trash "loser hero (who is always a guy) gets summoned to another world and gets godlike powers and/or millions of girls" isekai that have sadly been all the rage for the past few years.

My Next Life as a Villainess is a shallow isekai, but manages to overcome this by being different (firstly the protagonist is female, secondly she doesn't get any superpowers except those of money, thirdly the anime deconstructs the otome game genre, fourthly - and most importantly - it doesn't take itself seriously).

Ascendance of a Bookworm is just awesome. It's an extremely slow buildup, and a lot of seemingly nothing happening, but you can tell it's quietly weaving vast tendrils of plot as it goes along. Highly recommended, especially because its slow nature means it's quite a relaxing watch.

Western examples include Winnie the Pooh, Doug, Author.

Strongly disagree. I always hated Western cartoons because (a) there was no overarching plot and character progression (b) what plot there was is mostly aimed at literal children. Iyashikei isekai is aimed at adults and has actual world-building and character development, which is the hook to keep you coming back.
 
Iyashikei isekai in general is far better than the trash "loser hero (who is always a guy) gets summoned to another world and gets godlike powers and/or millions of girls" isekai that have sadly been all the rage for the past few years.

While there's plenty of trash in that category, I'll just say that I thoroughly enjoyed Overlord and Slime. Honorable mention to Konosuba.

Overlord stands out because the main character is the villain. So a despicable personality with anti-hero choices actually makes sense. The author is also clearly a well experienced dungeon-master, but never lets the dice-rolling / D&D system get in the way of the storytelling... but it is clearly present for those intimately familiar with the system. High recommend to players of D&D 3.5 and/or Pathfinder.

Slime stands out because the "loser hero" actually has a very positive personality, and the show doesn't take itself too seriously. The "loser-ness" of Rimuru Tempest is played for laughs / comedy, and otherwise Rimuru makes many good decisions leading to a strong and prosperous new life.

Konosuba looks like a Harem, but its really an anti-harem because no one seems to like each other. This, and other issues of subversion, make it a good inversion of the standard Isekai. But Konosuba leans hard on the sexual jokes / fanservice angle, which makes it difficult to watch for some audiences.

I bring this up to contrast with something like... Goblin Slayer... which I argue is the epitome of "Loser Hero with Harem" Isekai. (Despite not being an Isekai technically, Goblin Slayer is heavily implied to be a D&D system). Its a shame because the music + animation is so lovely too:
. But Goblin Slayer's decisions are toxic, the author bends the D&D rules to play favorites (making the lead character do shenanigans far outside their respective power levels). The anime almost seems to reward poor behavior and toxic personalities... and its not just Goblin Slayer, but a whole bunch of anime in this genre too.

Strongly disagree. I always hated Western cartoons because (a) there was no overarching plot and character progression (b) what plot there was is mostly aimed at literal children. Iyashikei isekai is aimed at adults and has actual world-building and character development, which is the hook to keep you coming back.

Hmm... now that I have young nieces, I've been watching a lot of kid shows with them, while also trying to get them into the more story-driven anime I've grown up with. Either way, I think I've learned to appreciate Barney, Sesame Street, Doug, Arthur... and many other kid shows.

I do have my limits. I can't stand Paw Patrol or Bubble Guppies. But I think I'm mostly surprised at how much more enjoyable Barney / Sesame Street is to my adult brain than my kid brain years ago. (I always liked Author however, still do). Especially Barney, where the sing along-songs are clearly designed for the audience to learn while Barney is singing (a lot of call / recall and rounds), and join in. Actually "participating" in Barney is a bit more fun than I was expecting.

The simple joy of singing about "frog on the log", and the low-stake problem solving (Oh no, Barney got his mouth stuck with Peanut butter! The kids need to work together to find milk and solve the problem) reminds me a LOT about Iyashikei animes as a concept and as a "healing" kind of feeling. I think there are more similarities here than a lot of people might be willing to admit. Yeah, Barney never really changes and you don't have any development beyond each episode... but there's definitely a "soothing" similarity in the genres.

With that being said: my nieces are more about asking for Dragonball Z (they're too scared to watch it on their own. They like that I'm able to tell them to get ready for character deaths and minor spoilers so they know when to hide). So they're leaving the Barney & Friends / Thomas the Tank Engine stage of their life now. I guess I'm just surprised at how much I personally was "fine" with Barney as an adult, and my anime-brain really can only describe it as a Iyashikei like feeling.
 
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Finished watching Castlevania S3. Im not sure how i feel about it. It just feels very long winded with a load of talking & not a whole lot of anything else going on. I mean the show has direction but its an extremely slow progress.
 
With Ascendance of the Bookworm S2 done (and having finished Welcome to Demon School, Iruma-Kun prior to that), I'm no longer watching any anime series. I'm still looking for something on YouTube though (Muse Asia and Ani-One has licensed series available for us here in SEA).
 
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Hmm... now that I have young nieces, I've been watching a lot of kid shows with them, while also trying to get them into the more story-driven anime I've grown up with. Either way, I think I've learned to appreciate Barney, Sesame Street, Doug, Arthur... and many other kid shows.

I do have my limits. I can't stand Paw Patrol or Bubble Guppies. But I think I'm mostly surprised at how much more enjoyable Barney / Sesame Street is to my adult brain than my kid brain years ago. (I always liked Author however, still do). Especially Barney, where the sing along-songs are clearly designed for the audience to learn while Barney is singing (a lot of call / recall and rounds), and join in. Actually "participating" in Barney is a bit more fun than I was expecting.
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Have you thought of introducing them to the Ghibli Collection? My daughters loved Kiki and Totoro, and Howl's was a wonderful rainy afternoon's delight in the 9-12 range.

As for the American cartoons, stuff like SpongeBob and TelleTubbies were verboten in our house. Barney and Arthur were encouraged, and as they grew up some, they enjoyed the shorts from The Muppet Show. For the lighter side, I adored some of the Animaniacs stuff myself, and Recess was always fun as well. Just my unasked-for input :)
 
Too vapid?
Very much so. I'm not a huge BoobToob fan, so if my kids are going to watch something, i tried to keep it at least off the bottom. Not that I'm some bastion of high-brow TV; Ren and Stimpy's Happy Happy Joy Joy still rocks my world :laugh: . But that was for me, well over the age of consent; for the kids, I didn't want them rotting their brains that early. Kiki's journey to discover her strengths and independence thru perseverance was, I thought, a wonderful message. Totoro didn't throw that many deep messages their way, but the underlying story of family and love was something I wanted running under everything I could show them.
 
Have you thought of introducing them to the Ghibli Collection? My daughters loved Kiki and Totoro, and Howl's was a wonderful rainy afternoon's delight in the 9-12 range.

As for the American cartoons, stuff like SpongeBob and TelleTubbies were verboten in our house. Barney and Arthur were encouraged, and as they grew up some, they enjoyed the shorts from The Muppet Show. For the lighter side, I adored some of the Animaniacs stuff myself, and Recess was always fun as well. Just my unasked-for input :)

Hmm, I'll consider it. There's lots of Ghibli stuff out there. I'm pretty sure they've already seen Ponyo, and they're too young for Princess Mononoke. They are probably old enough to enjoy Kiki's delivery service, Naussica, and Spirited Away though... but the oldest one is unusually scared of spirits and ghosts... so Spirited Away might be too much for her.

This got me thinking about kid-friendly anime movies. "Modest Heroes" is on Netflix now, and is a collection of 3 short stories (~1 hour total run time) that I'd watch with children. The 2nd story about the egg allergy was a very good message and was the best point of the three... but all three short stories kept my attention throughout. Studio Ponyac is a bunch of Ex-Ghibli members, so you'll get a very "Ghibli" feel from Modest Heroes. I'll probably push Modest Heroes onto my nieces in our next watch party.

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A good Sci-Fi kids movie is Patema Inverted, but my sister (the mother of the kids) was worried about getting them into anti-authoritarian / dystopian themes so early. I think my sister's kids are a bit young for it, but I'd imagine that ~10 year olds or so might get a kick out of the Sci-Fi themes explored in that movie. I'm pretty sure the kids did enjoy the Hard-SciFi setting, and is probably the kid-friendliest hard-sci fi movie.

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The underground people have their gravity inverted, so when Patema reaches the surface, she's met with an "infinite hole", and needs to hang on tightly lest she falls into the sky forever. The lead villain is cartoonishly evil and authoritarian to a fault, but most of the joy in the movie is in the change of perspectives as Patema meets the surface people, and the surface people meet Patema's people underground. There's some "reverse gravity" fight scenes which were wonderfully choreographed... the "main event" is the inverted-gravity perspective changes... while the general cruft of the story (villain, general plot, etc. etc.) is almost too shallow.

Still, the kids I've shown Patema Inverted to were intrigued by the inverse gravity scenes and mostly didn't notice the shallow villain that tied the movie together. Watching for the reverse gravity moments alone was worth it IMO.

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Both of the above are from "GKids", a new company focused on kid-friendly international animated movies (mostly Japanese anime, but also includes French / Irish animation, such as "The Secret of Kells"). They've got good tastes and I can generally the company's films (including Studio Ghibli) to any parent.
 
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So I've been watching a lot of DragonballZ recently, given the whole COVID19 lockdowns and all. Specifically, I stopped watching DBZ as a kid when it went to cable TV (roughly the end of the Frieza arc). I managed to finish the Cell Arc a few years ago, and I'm back to complete the last leg of the series: the Buu Saga.

Today, I watched the episode where Goku first reveals his Super Saiyan 3 form. But now that I think of it: Super Saiyan 2 was never called SSJ2 until this moment. The form called Super Saiyan 2 was called "Ascended a Super Saiyan" throughout the Cell Saga. Even then, there were multiple "iterations" of SSJ2 back in the Cell Saga: first a "muscular" form that Vegeta + Trunks used on semi-perfect cell. When Goku / Gohan noticed it didn't work, they tried something else.

Even then, only Gohan achieved Ascended Super Saiyan (aka: SSJ2) form back in the Cell Saga. Goku and Vegeta didn't achieve it until the middle of the Buu Saga.

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I dunno what I'm musing about exactly. I guess... there's a lot of jokes about how predictable DBZ was about powering up and "the next form", but... now that I'm watching through the series... it doesn't really feel predictable. It was actually kind of solid storytelling. Solid, but slow (jeez, this show takes too damn long!!). But aside from the length, I'm quite pleased with how the overall story is being told.

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I will say that the naming convention of DBZ is "awesomely stupid". But that's always been the case: Oolong, Gohan (aka: Rice in Japanese), Kakarrot (carrot), Vegeta (Vegetable), Bibiddi, Babiddi, and Buu. Despite the quirky / stupid naming convention of the show, the voice actors remain in focus and really sell the whole shebang.
 
So I've been watching a lot of DragonballZ recently, given the whole COVID19 lockdowns and all. Specifically, I stopped watching DBZ as a kid when it went to cable TV (roughly the end of the Frieza arc). I managed to finish the Cell Arc a few years ago, and I'm back to complete the last leg of the series: the Buu Saga.

Today, I watched the episode where Goku first reveals his Super Saiyan 3 form. But now that I think of it: Super Saiyan 2 was never called SSJ2 until this moment. The form called Super Saiyan 2 was called "Ascended a Super Saiyan" throughout the Cell Saga. Even then, there were multiple "iterations" of SSJ2 back in the Cell Saga: first a "muscular" form that Vegeta + Trunks used on semi-perfect cell. When Goku / Gohan noticed it didn't work, they tried something else.

Even then, only Gohan achieved Ascended Super Saiyan (aka: SSJ2) form back in the Cell Saga. Goku and Vegeta didn't achieve it until the middle of the Buu Saga.

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I dunno what I'm musing about exactly. I guess... there's a lot of jokes about how predictable DBZ was about powering up and "the next form", but... now that I'm watching through the series... it doesn't really feel predictable. It was actually kind of solid storytelling. Solid, but slow (jeez, this show takes too damn long!!). But aside from the length, I'm quite pleased with how the overall story is being told.

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I will say that the naming convention of DBZ is "awesomely stupid". But that's always been the case: Oolong, Gohan (aka: Rice in Japanese), Kakarrot (carrot), Vegeta (Vegetable), Bibiddi, Babiddi, and Buu. Despite the quirky / stupid naming convention of the show, the voice actors remain in focus and really sell the whole shebang.

Comedy was always great in DB, and that's part of it, i guess the naming of the characters is part of it...
 
Dbz is great once you trim the extra fat, which Kai did.
 
Dbz is great once you trim the extra fat, which Kai did.

Yes and no. I've had the opportunity to see some of Kai and some of DBZ.

I'm rewatching the early episodes with my nieces at a relatively slow pace. There's something to be said about DBZ's original pacing as being somewhat natural. Gohan's training with Piccolo is over a set of ~10 episodes, mostly filler, starting with Gohan crying about getting stuck on a mountain. Gohan gets faster, stronger, and smarter as the training progresses, and you really get a sense of progression across episodes 10 through 20.

Gohan first fights nature itself (learning to live off the fat of the land). He then befriends a dinosaur, and tries to defend it from a T-Rex (but loses and his dino-friend dies). A few episodes later, the T-Rex is slowly getting eaten by Gohan (Gohan now chases the T-Rex and slowly eats his tail for a source of meat). And finally, Piccolo returns from his training, and Gohan / Piccolo begin to spar together.

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Kai cuts out the T-Rex part of the arc since that's filler. But I feel like it was a good part of Gohan's development and does add to Gohan's story. I guess... not all the filler was bad or worthless. I think the Sabertooth tiger in the early episodes probably can be cut out, but maybe I'd have left the T-Rex parts even in Kai.

Kai is mostly better. If you do have access to it, I'd suggest watching Kai for sure. But they probably should have left in some of the better filler instead of going for a puritan manga-only stance. Some of the anime-only filler actually contributed to the story and development of characters.
 
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Gohan going SSJ2 in the original japanese on original DBZ was awesome.

On different note..any Fate fans here?? Would you recommend starting it as there is Fate stay night, unlimited and zero available on netflix right now.
 
Gohan going SSJ2 in the original japanese on original DBZ was awesome.

On different note..any Fate fans here?? Would you recommend starting it as there is Fate stay night, unlimited and zero available on netflix right now.

Well, fate zero's timeline predates fate\stay night, but any way is fine i guess, UBW is the much darker and violent version of FTN...

I say, start with zero if you want, or with FTN so you dont get spoiled by the other versions and UBW last...
 
I would do:
Zero
UBW
The HF movies.
And avoid Prism Illya like the plague.
There are no good adaptations of FSN, the best way is to read the visual novel, but even then, the Fate route is just an introduction, to give most of the concepts that will be expanded in the other two routes.

I have my hands full with Fruits Basket season 2, Oregairu season 3 and Re:Zero season 2. 3 heavy weights is too much.
 
Deca-dence is a sleeper this season, major curve ball right on ep 2, good world building.
And then you have No Guns life, I tell ya, that ending puts Tekken or street fighter to shame.
 
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