"Zen 3" is On Track and Launching Later This Year: AMD CEO

[Super XP]

Especially given that the vast majority of the OEMs and other companies continue to buy Intel's systems, thus continuing to execute some contracts, maybe ?

The only reason why Intel continues to have a leg up over AMD is because Intel gives deep discounts on top of the Intel Fanboy IT professionals giving wrong advice to there place of work, and wrongfully recommend Inferior Intel products, despite AMD Ryzen being FAR MORE Supervisor in absolutely Everything.....

We got IT Fanboys running the joints lmao

 

[dragontamer5788]

Intel has superior tools still. Intel VTune is exceptionally good at its job, and is far superior to AMD's uProf.

With that being said, I use AMD for my home computer, because I ain't gonna buy VTune for my personal use. But I can imagine many professional shops deciding to stick with Intel if only for the superior tooling (especially if your custom tools in your dev-shop rely upon features from VTune). At the core: AMD uProf reads AMD-specific hardware performance counters (ie: cache hits, branch mispredicts, the like). Intel does the same, but its presented in a different fashion. Intel's performance counters are superior at a fundamental level, and VTune is also a superior program for accessing and analyzing those counters.

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Intel Skylake-X also has superior core-to-core latency with their mesh-network compared to AMD (which traverses the infinity fabric off-die in some cases). I'd imagine that some scenarios would be superior on Intel chips if the data-alignment + L3 cache were aligned in just the right way.

I'd imagine that for most users, AMD chips are now superior over Intel. But I'm not going to discount the niche-use cases (performance counters, weird L3 cache issues, "blades" for high density compute, and other situations)

 

[Super XP]

Great Points.
ZEN3 with a next generation Infinite Fabric and a cache system overhaul should be enough to surely give Intel a good run.

 

[ARF]

The only reason why Intel continues to have a leg up over AMD is because Intel gives deep discounts on top of the Intel Fanboy IT professionals giving wrong advice to there place of work, and wrongfully recommend Inferior Intel products, despite AMD Ryzen being FAR MORE Supervisor in absolutely Everything.....

We got IT Fanboys running the joints lmao

Well, I think there is a change in the positive direction, so that Intel no longer uses so aggressive stimulations for the OEMs, like the previous Mother of All Programmes.
You know they paid quite beefy fines not so long time ago.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

Guess waiting for this is for the better...

 

[ARF]

Guess waiting for this is for the better...

AMD is like a bulldozer these couple of years. Moves forward smashing everything in its way

Look:
PassMark Score in points:

Ryzen 7 2700U - 6563 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+2700U&id=3140 Q4 2017
Ryzen 7 3700U - +13% 7442 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+3700U&id=3426 Q2 2019
Ryzen 7 4700U - +88% 14003 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+4700U&id=3699 Q2 2020
Ryzen 7 4800U - +25% 17480 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+4800U&id=3721 Q2 2020