Xeon Owners Club

[phill]

Hey BTW @phill how do you like that Ryzen 3900X?Are you going to leave our club ?

The Ryzen CPU is brilliant, cool running and crunches like a nutter... But there's no chance I'm leaving the Xeon club, I've too many Xeon's!! Ya can't get rid of me that easy....

 

[Mr.Scott]

When I first got this, it came with 6x2GB and I added in 4x4GB at times and still had the issue. This was running at stock.



Tempting fate a bit much. Maybe when I have some booze to calm my nerves when it does the dumb thing.

It's aggravating as hell. Been there, done that. Every once and a while my SR-2 only shows me 10 of 12 gig. No idea why. Totally random.
On a side note, EVGA E-Leet for SR-2 always shows me 12 of 12. No idea what to believe.

 

[Edwired]

I was just going to ask, have you tried upping the clocks again to see if the problem comes back?? Or is that tempting fate a little too much??.....

Must be some sort of funky issue with the evga sr-2 board depending on the revison number of the board as im only guessing due to early revision but could be wrong here if anyone can correct me on that

 

[Mr.Scott]

Example:

 

[Toothless]

So I'm pretty sure running 25x on the CPU multiplier is causing the ram issues, because 23x it keeps rebooting (pretty sure BSOD) and all 48 are consistently showing up. Fun. Also dropped to 4ghz to see if reboots stop.

 

[Edwired]

So I'm pretty sure running 25x on the CPU multiplier is causing the ram issues, because 23x it keeps rebooting (pretty sure BSOD) and all 48 are consistently showing up. Fun. Also dropped to 4ghz to see if reboots stop.

Not all boards can run 25x multi on the cpu and the rebooting is usually timing needs to set manually as i get double or triple reboot on mine as the timings are set on auto

Also check for bluescreen view app that will tell you if error codes is listed that will help you with the bsod regarding on voltages needs bumping up or decreasing

 

[lexluthermiester]

So I'm pretty sure running 25x on the CPU multiplier is causing the ram issues, because 23x it keeps rebooting (pretty sure BSOD) and all 48 are consistently showing up. Fun. Also dropped to 4ghz to see if reboots stop.

Ah, I must have missed that you're OCing. Perhaps the IMC can't handle the clocks. Are you bclk OCing as well?

 

[Toothless]

Ah, I must have missed that you're OCing. Perhaps the IMC can't handle the clocks. Are you bclk OCing as well?

I actually don't know, since I have issues getting the memory clock up. The whole thing is weird and I'll have to do a post about it later.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I actually don't know, since I have issues getting the memory clock up. The whole thing is weird and I'll have to do a post about it later.

I would drop everything back to stock and test. If you're stable and seeing all installed RAM at stock clocks, you might have that desync issue OCing dual CPU setups get.

 

[Edwired]

I might have a feeling that the imc on your cpu might be the main issue as you need to keep the imc clock to the standard speed like example 2666mhz or 3200mhz. If you going above the stardard 3200mhz this might explain the issue of uncore/qpi ratio been unstable is my main guess. Post up cpuid memory and hwinfo64 in full extended screen

 

[Caring1]

Link to Toothless's SR2 story so far:

Adventures of the SR-2

Unlike my other adventures, I plan on sticking this one out to either I'm defeated or this build is. A very kind soul has passed me his EVGA SR-2, two x5680s, and 12 gigaboops. It was loved, water-cooled, and now being a real pain in my rear. I don't have proper coolers so I'm using a couple...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Toothless]

Link to Toothless's SR2 story so far:

Adventures of the SR-2

Unlike my other adventures, I plan on sticking this one out to either I'm defeated or this build is. A very kind soul has passed me his EVGA SR-2, two x5680s, and 12 gigaboops. It was loved, water-cooled, and now being a real pain in my rear. I don't have proper coolers so I'm using a couple...

www.techpowerup.com

I wish computers made me this famous eight years ago. I'd be great with the ladies.

 

[bobbybluz]

First Passmark CPU benchmark for my E5 2683 V4.

 

[phill]

Example:View attachment 178299

I think that happens on all X58 systems @Mr.Scott ?? I remember my Classified boards acting odd and saying I had 8GB when I only had 3 x 2GB sticks installed....???

Oh, I thought I'd share this with you all too....

I hope to have another two on the way at some point... These are going in my Dell R730 servers, along with 128GB of ram in each so I can crunch like never before!! I was kinda hoping to get E5-2682 V4's as they somehow run faster at 2.50GHz compared to 2.10GHz and still have a 120w TDP... Oh well It's a bit of a struggle trying to find two of these and matched as well is even harder... (I'm not going for boxed versions!! )

I'm another few things on the way to my mate in the USA, I'll update you all as soon as he gets them and gets them up and running

 

[Zyll Goliat]

First Passmark CPU benchmark for my E5 2683 V4.
View attachment 178351

More benchmarking results pls....what's the all cores speed in heavy workload?How much you paid for it?Are you using your X99 Asus deluxe mobo?Did you try any bclk OC?

 

[bobbybluz]

I think that happens on all X58 systems @Mr.Scott ?? I remember my Classified boards acting odd and saying I had 8GB when I only had 3 x 2GB sticks installed....???

Oh, I thought I'd share this with you all too....

View attachment 178428

I hope to have another two on the way at some point... These are going in my Dell R730 servers, along with 128GB of ram in each so I can crunch like never before!! I was kinda hoping to get E5-2682 V4's as they somehow run faster at 2.50GHz compared to 2.10GHz and still have a 120w TDP... Oh well It's a bit of a struggle trying to find two of these and matched as well is even harder... (I'm not going for boxed versions!! )

I'm another few things on the way to my mate in the USA, I'll update you all as soon as he gets them and gets them up and running

Those will take DDR4 2400. I have mine in an ASRock X99 Extreme4/3.1 with the BLCK at 103.5. When the turbo kicks in they put out slightly over 3Ghz. I have 128GB of RAM in it and it's got snappy performance.

More benchmarking results pls....what's the all cores speed in heavy workload?How much you paid for it?Are you using your X99 Asus deluxe mobo?Did you try any bclk OC?

I haven't played with it much other than adding another 64GB of RAM last week. The CPU was $200 off Ebay. ASRock X99 Extreme4/3.1, BLCK at 103.5 at the moment. I'll go for more when I have the time.

 

[freeagent]

I think that happens on all X58 systems @Mr.Scott ?? I remember my Classified boards acting odd and saying I had 8GB when I only had 3 x 2GB sticks installed....???

It’s a quirk of X58 I think. After all these years I think every owner has had the issue. I look back at x58 with fondness but it also annoyed the piss out of me at times. I’m fairly certain this had happened to every x58 board ever made lol. Or it could just be a Xeon thing because I had no problems running mixed kits with a 970 and 965XE ES that I can recall. But the majority of my time was with the Xeon, and maybe just a few months with the other two. I only ditched my 970 because it was a dog, but it’s imc was awesome.

 

[Edwired]

I think that happens on all X58 systems @Mr.Scott ?? I remember my Classified boards acting odd and saying I had 8GB when I only had 3 x 2GB sticks installed....???

Oh, I thought I'd share this with you all too....

View attachment 178428

I hope to have another two on the way at some point... These are going in my Dell R730 servers, along with 128GB of ram in each so I can crunch like never before!! I was kinda hoping to get E5-2682 V4's as they somehow run faster at 2.50GHz compared to 2.10GHz and still have a 120w TDP... Oh well It's a bit of a struggle trying to find two of these and matched as well is even harder... (I'm not going for boxed versions!! )

I'm another few things on the way to my mate in the USA, I'll update you all as soon as he gets them and gets them up and running

Bet ya can crunch on this

 

[phill]

Those will take DDR4 2400. I have mine in an ASRock X99 Extreme4/3.1 with the BLCK at 103.5. When the turbo kicks in they put out slightly over 3Ghz. I have 128GB of RAM in it and it's got snappy performance.

I haven't played with it much other than adding another 64GB of RAM last week. The CPU was $200 off Ebay. ASRock X99 Extreme4/3.1, BLCK at 103.5 at the moment. I'll go for more when I have the time.

Yep that's the plan, there's currently 2133MHz RAM in the server but there's only 4 sticks, so I need 8 sticks per server (as dual CPUs) and I'm going for 2400MHz stuff as it's the fastest that the CPUs support. I did wonder if I could find something faster for cheaper than 2400 but sadly not...My mate missed out on a 128GB kit a few weeks ago, I was gutted as it was like $300 or £230... Utter bargain... Just the waiting game for me now...

Bet ya can crunch on this View attachment 178430

There's always one....

 

[Edwired]

There's always one....
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I had to post that as it fair funny to see someone trying hard to crunch LOL

 

[OrlyP]

I have a Plex server with the following relevant specs:

i5-4570
Z97-D3H
32GB
1050Ti GPU (for HW transcoding)

On top of Plex, I would also like to run a couple of light-duty VMs.

Does upgrading replacing the CPU to an E3-1285 V4 going to be something worth it?

 

[lexluthermiester]

I have a Plex server with the following relevant specs:

i5-4570
Z97-D3H
32GB
1050Ti GPU (for HW transcoding)

On top of Plex, I would also like to run a couple of light-duty VMs.

Does upgrading replacing the CPU to an E3-1285 V4 going to be something worth it?

If the 1285v4 is compatible with your motherboard(which it looks like it is according to Gigabyte's website), then yes that would be a solid drop-in upgrade, if you can get one on the cheap.

GA-Z97-D3H (rev. 1.0) Support | Motherboard - GIGABYTE U.S.A.

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ultimate platform for...

www.gigabyte.com

 

[Zyll Goliat]

I have a Plex server with the following relevant specs:

i5-4570
Z97-D3H
32GB
1050Ti GPU (for HW transcoding)

On top of Plex, I would also like to run a couple of light-duty VMs.

Does upgrading replacing the CPU to an E3-1285 V4 going to be something worth it?

It will be beneficial upgrade,Xeon 1285 V4 have a bit better single thread performance(IPC) + you will have 8 threads and I5-4570 have only 4 threads(4c/4t)which means "substantial" gains in multicore performance.......
P.S.Be absolutely sure that you Motherboard is compatible also don't forget to update your bios

 

[OrlyP]

Thanks @lexluthermiester and @Zyll Goliath.

Here's a curve ball... I am confused between getting the 1285 v4 and the 1285L v4.

It is my understanding that the one with the "L" is the low TDP version, base clock is slightly slower, and should perform a little worse than the "regular" (non- "L") 1285 v4. However, Passmark rates the "L" version at 401 points higher than the regular non-L.

Intel Xeon E3-1285 v4 vs Xeon E3-1285L v4 [cpubenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

The L-version is also cheaper, which shouldn't be the case if that benchmark is true.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Thanks @lexluthermiester and @Zyll Goliath.

Here's a curve ball... I am confused between getting the 1285 v4 and the 1285L v4.

It is my understanding that the one with the "L" is the low TDP version, base clock is slightly slower, and should perform a little worse than the "regular" (non- "L") 1285 v4. However, Passmark rates the "L" version at 401 points higher than the regular non-L.

Intel Xeon E3-1285 v4 vs Xeon E3-1285L v4 [cpubenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

The L-version is also cheaper, which shouldn't be the case if that benchmark is true.

Sometimes the passmark scores are not presented 100% accurately the thing is that both of those CPU's are very close in performance and if you have some better motherboard you can OC any of them so then it is not that important which CPU you will choose however IF you using server motherboard and you can't OC or you don't want to then I am 99,99% sure that Xeon 1285 V4 is slightly faster then Xeon 1285L V4 .....