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Input lag is killing me

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mouacyk said:
Those latencies are high, because a good system is around 100us, 200us tops. Correct drivers for all motherboard components allow them to communicate most efficiently and optimally.

Based on Steam support:

There are 4 Maximus 10 boards, so go to the Support section on the motherboard website and download the correct chipset drivers and install them. It's good to make sure you don't have any unknown devices in your device manager, and installing the chipset driver generally resolves that, because then Windows 10 can proceed to install the correct drivers for them.
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Also post a screenshot of your running tasks/services from Task Manager. Sort it by CPU usage.
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I will search for the correct chipset driver, but do you want the screenshot while I'm playing or just with the PC on?
 
Lkzz said:
I will search for the correct chipset driver, but do you want the screenshot while I'm playing or just with the PC on?
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Both will be more helpful.
 
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Some parts are in Portuguese, but if you have any doubt just send me. Also do you know where I can find the chipset drivers for the "Asus Rog Maximus X"
 
did ya see this: worth a try
 
Lkzz said:
Some parts are in Portuguese, but if you have any doubt just send me. Also do you know where I can find the chipset drivers for the "Asus Rog Maximus X"
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Go to for drivers: ROG Maximus | Gaming Motherboards｜ROG - Republic of Gamers｜ROG Global (asus.com)
Again, there are multiple Maximus X boards so you have to pick the one that is yours before getting to the driver download page.

Nothing looks off based on your screenshot, but once you get chipset drivers updated, I'd try running the game without Chrome or Discord running in background (just to try to isolate the issue).
 
mouacyk said:
Go to for drivers: ROG Maximus | Gaming Motherboards｜ROG - Republic of Gamers｜ROG Global (asus.com)
Again, there are multiple Maximus X boards so you have to pick the one that is yours before getting to the driver download page.

Nothing looks off based on your screenshot, but once you get have chipset drivers updated, I'd try running the game without Chrome or Discord running background (just to try to isolate the issue).
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Okay, I will do that later and then I send the results here. How can I be sure what’s mine Maximus X?
 
Fool proof way is to look at your motherboard and see what it matches up to on the website:
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Lkzz said:
Thanks a lot man, will try that later
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It will also list the motherboard model in the BIOS too. Apologies on jumping the gun and providing the driver page for potentially a board you don't have. The principle is the same though. Once you have the board model ("Maximus X Code" for example), just go to the product page for that board on Asus's website, click the support tab, then the driver and utility tab, and it will list the different drivers.
 
milewski1015 said:
It will also list the motherboard model in the BIOS too. Apologies on jumping the gun and providing the driver page for potentially a board you don't have. The principle is the same though. Once you have the board model ("Maximus X Code" for example), just go to the product page for that board on Asus's website, click the support tab, then the driver and utility tab, and it will list the different drivers.
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Np that’s really helpful, I will check that later, thanks for the help!

mouacyk said:
Fool proof way is to look at your motherboard and see what it matches up to on the website:
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Basically I entered on the link that you sent, and after finding my motherboard model I didn’t find the link or the driver to download. https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-maximus/rog-maximus-x-hero-model/
 
Lkzz said:
Basically I entered on the link that you sent, and after finding my motherboard model I didn’t find the link or the driver to download.
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Which Maximus X board do you have? Hero? Code? Formula?
 
milewski1015 said:
Which Maximus X board do you have? Hero? Code? Formula?
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The Hero one

mouacyk said:
You have to navigate your way to the download page from there ;(

Support -> "Driver & Utility" -> Pick your OS -> Scroll down to Chipset -> Click Download
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Alright I'll see if I can find

mouacyk said:
You have to navigate your way to the download page from there ;(

Support -> "Driver & Utility" -> Pick your OS -> Scroll down to Chipset -> Click Download
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Alright, just finished doing that. Is that supposed to fix the problem or do I have to do anything else?
 
Lkzz said:
The Hero one


Alright I'll see if I can find


Alright, just finished doing that. Is that supposed to fix the problem or do I have to do anything else?
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Maybe. Afterward, make sure Windows updates are caught up.
 
Just chiming in about something missing here: The OP/title says "input lag is killing me", yet nowhere can I find an actual description of how this lag comes across/is experienced. Is it a constant, even lag? 'Cause that's what input lag is - the system is always a bit slow to respond to inputs. If it's uneven, spiky, on-and-off, jumping from nothing to suddenly very slow, then that's not input lag but something else. People tend to use "input lag" as a catch-all term for a lot of things that aren't input lag. Some clarification of how exactly this "lag" looks/feels/acts would be helpful in determining its source.
 
mouacyk said:
Maybe. Afterward, make sure Windows updates are caught up.
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Also when I downloaded it created a Zip file, which I extracted resulting on a folder, then I double clicked the “Setup” and installed. Now that is installed, can I delete this folder and the Zip file?
 
Lkzz said:
Also when I downloaded it created a Zip file, which I extracted resulting on a folder, then I double clicked the “Setup” and installed. Now that is installed, can I delete this folder and the Zip file?
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yes
 
AsRock said:
Depends how it means 5ms right ?, BTW,GTG or what they ever please to do these days.,
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5ms is generally used for older, slower (office) IPS and for VA with no frills.

Its definitely yesteryears spec number but its impossible to attribute that to general sense of latency on the system. Even slow panels are not slow enough for that effect. Vsync will still hurt you more.

Mussels said:
it absolutely makes a massive difference, we're talking upto 100ms -TV's are not made for interactive content, they'd buffer and delay content so they could process it and turn interlaced signals into progressive and so on

you 100% need to turn game mode on and all processing features off, on any TV used for any sort of gaming
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Except for this, indeed, there is literally no limit to the amount of trickery within TVs to somehow make things not ultra shit latency wise and/or produce a nice image. Killing all processing done by the TV to spice up the image is basically what Game Modes do, and with that, you also kill the latency hit, or a lot of it.
 
Vayra86 said:
5ms is generally used for older, slower (office) IPS and for VA with no frills.

Its definitely yesteryears spec number but its impossible to attribute that to general sense of latency on the system. Even slow panels are not slow enough for that effect. Vsync will still hurt you more.


Except for this, indeed, there is literally no limit to the amount of trickery within TVs to somehow make things not ultra shit latency wise and/or produce a nice image. Killing all processing done by the TV to spice up the image is basically what Game Modes do, and with that, you also kill the latency hit, or a lot of it.
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The problem is that I activated this game mode, but didn’t change a bit, do you have any more suggestions?

mouacyk said:
yes
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Alright, I tested and it doesn’t seem like it worked. What else can I do? (Beside buying a new monitor, of course)
 
Valantar said:
Just chiming in about something missing here: The OP/title says "input lag is killing me", yet nowhere can I find an actual description of how this lag comes across/is experienced. Is it a constant, even lag? 'Cause that's what input lag is - the system is always a bit slow to respond to inputs. If it's uneven, spiky, on-and-off, jumping from nothing to suddenly very slow, then that's not input lag but something else. People tend to use "input lag" as a catch-all term for a lot of things that aren't input lag. Some clarification of how exactly this "lag" looks/feels/acts would be helpful in determining its source.
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Take note of this message @Lkzz . What is your baseline? Do you compare this performance against another system you also use which is 'normal'?

Beyond that... if you have the TV sorted out, and all other 'normal' things have been checked and are in good order, its time to go back to basics and build back up from scratch. I'd start with cabling, software installed and running and basically exclude everything one by one. Test after every little step - make yourself a short test you can easily reproduce and where the behaviour is clearly noticeable.

If you have a few things installed or in the system/in terms of hardware/peripherals etc. that you think are suspect, remove those first. As in remove entirely, uninstall the accompanying software etc. If that shortcut doesn't deliver, start clean.

If you can borrow another monitor, that's obviously an easy thing to test as well.
 
Vayra86 said:
Take note of this message @Lkzz . What is your baseline? Do you compare this performance against another system you also use which is 'normal'?

Beyond that... if you have the TV sorted out, and all other 'normal' things have been checked and are in good order, its time to go back to basics and build back up from scratch. I'd start with cabling, software installed and running and basically exclude everything one by one. Test after every little step - make yourself a short test you can easily reproduce and where the behaviour is clearly noticeable.

If you have a few things installed or in the system/in terms of hardware/peripherals etc. that you think are suspect, remove those first. As in remove entirely, uninstall the accompanying software etc.
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I’m sorry, but I don’t get it, what do you want me to do? I didn’t run any tested on another PC, because this problem usually happens while I’m playing. And yes, it’s something constant. I made all the updates (Chipset drivers, windows, NVIDIA, ethernet). I was thinking that maybe the problem is related to my mouse, but I really doubt that, and others peripherals such as keyboard and other stuff doesn’t make any sense. About the cable, what do you think could be the problem? Also energy I don’t think it’s related to my problem. I can try to run some tests without Discord that if I’m not mistaken, it’s the only “software” that I use.
 
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