Global Warming & Climate Change Discussion

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I have often read that the majority of people live near the coasts of landmasses. A rising Ocean could displace hundreds of millions of people possibly.

 

[the54thvoid]

Yeah, it's already happening. Coastal habitation has always been a blessing and a curse. Close to the ocean, close to food sources. Flip side, close to breaking storms. With even small increases in ocean level, storm surges are more damaging.

 

[rruff]

Remind us what would it take for us to go back to an ice age?

Ice ages are status quo, starting ~3M years ago. We are now in a brief "interglacial warm period". We would expect another ice age any time now...

 

[lexluthermiester]

Ice ages are status quo, starting ~3M years ago. We are now in a brief "interglacial warm period". We would expect another ice age any time now...

This.

 

[moproblems99]

I still don't understand what the point of natural vs man-made climate change when the result is the same - a lot of people are going to be unhappy. I get that natural climate change may not be preventable, but maybe it is...we don't know that. Humans weren't around 500k years ago (at least you guys weren't, I thought it was pretty cool). Perhaps we can change that natural warming so we don't cook?

It's akin to being shot by a natural frozen meat bullet or a real, man-made lead bullet. You are still going to die.

 

[lexluthermiester]

en masse?

Did you take pictures? Because yeah that might be a problem..

It's akin to being shot by a natural frozen meat bullet or a real, man-made lead bullet. You are still going to die.

Nope! A meat bullet would heat up and fall apart before it ever hit you. I believe The Mythbusters did a take on that.. And they busted it..

 

[Caring1]

Did you take pictures? Because yeah that might be a problem..


Nope! A meat bullet would heat up and fall apart before it ever hit you. I believe The Mythbusters did a take on that.. And they busted it..

But if they used the frozen chicken cannon, then ya dead.

 

[the54thvoid]

Ice ages are status quo, starting ~3M years ago. We are now in a brief "interglacial warm period". We would expect another ice age any time now...

Here is the rest of the info:

Global Warming

Global warming is happening now, and scientists are confident that greenhouse gases are responsible. To understand what this means for humanity, it is necessary to understand what global warming is, how scientists know it's happening, and how they predict future climate.

earthobservatory.nasa.gov

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The cut off from the top graph does not show a peak in anomalous temperature. If you take into account the trend figure in blue from the same page, it shows an increasing spike in temperature. There is no mention of an impending ice age. As previouisly posted, the current climatic changes are expected to disrupt our next cooling phase, and that is not expected for tens of thousands of years:

Check out an unbiased viewpoint on the research from CSM.

Global warming delayed next ice age by 100,000 years. Why that's bad news

Researchers examined the eight global ice ages Earth has experienced over the past 800,000 years and used climate models to determine the conditions that trigger a big freeze.

www.csmonitor.com

 

[lexluthermiester]

But if they used the frozen chicken cannon, then ya dead.

True!

 

[rruff]

No, people would actually bake and die.

Some people might be that stupid, but most have a few brain cells and prefer to live. Supposing the occurrence of lethal heat indexes during the middle of the day in summer, how do you think people will adapt?

A few things that come to mind are:
1) stay in AC (or cellars if in a poor area) during the hottest part of the day
2) live somewhere else in the summer
3) move permanently

Here is the rest of the info:

Global warming delayed next ice age by 100,000 years. Why that's bad news

Researchers examined the eight global ice ages Earth has experienced over the past 800,000 years and used climate models to determine the conditions that trigger a big freeze.

www.csmonitor.com

"Were it not for high levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, Earth would be due for an ice age, a period of extreme cooling of the climate during which ice sheets cover large swatches of the land.

While it may appear to be good news that humans have successfully delayed the next ice age, it's actually not.

Ice ages play a significant role in shaping the landscape and leaving behind fertile soil for Earth's civilizations. They carve channels in Earth, leaving behind rivers and lakes. If the period between ice ages becomes too long, the planet may become relatively dry and barren"

I'd like some evidence for that last bit... "the planet may become relatively dry and barren". That doesn't square with anything I've seen regarding earth's much warmer history, when there were no ice ages at all.

 

[freeagent]

A few municipalities in my province have declared agricultural states of disaster. In my 43 years of bumbling around on this earth I don't recall ever seeing one of those here. Its been hot as balls too. Over 100f in the back yard. Heard some talk of food shortages and all kinds of crazy stuff.

 

[claes]

Man I really wish TPU had some negative reacts... Could really use an eye-roll option

 

[dorsetknob]

50 years ago the "Scientific consensus " was Predicting some degree of (mini) Ice age and that was the Target
of Scientific Fund Raising and Research. It was Teached in schools at the time ( i know i was there ....)
About 20 Years ago Scientific Fund Raising and Research started to Target Global Warming ( it became Topically fashionable).

We as a Species have over the last 200,000 years Modified the Earths Environment and this has had a causal effect on the Earths Climate .
Over the last 500 years we have wiped out or endangered many Species and with Environmental modification replaced them with vast herds of mono Species far in excess of what the land was capable of support.

You want Examples try Sheep in Australia/New Zealand and elsewhere
Herds of Bovines (Cows ) in USA /India /South America.
not forgetting 10+Billion Humans.

That's a lot of Methane exponentialy added to the Biosphere every year.

 

[freeagent]

Man I really wish TPU had some negative reacts... Could really use an eye-roll option

I use gifs because they are available for such things..

 

[moproblems99]

Did you take pictures? Because yeah that might be a problem..

What's the matter, don't believe him? We are expected to believe everything you say with no evidence.

Nope! A meat bullet would heat up and fall apart before it ever hit you. I believe The Mythbusters did a take on that.. And they busted it..

Source?

few things that come to mind are:
1) stay in AC (or cellars if in a poor area) during the hottest part of the day
2) live somewhere else in the summer
3) move permanently

Those are solutions? Have you estimated how much land mass we will lose due to sea rise to afford those that need to move the option?

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
W1z says real men use bbc code lol :meat_on_bone:
Now all you need is a list of what he allows :satellite:

 

[moproblems99]

Neither of those I guess?

 

[Easy Rhino]

If you still believe that man is causing the planet to warm to degree that will cause massive issues then you disagree with Barack Obama's assessment of his latest property purchase in Hawaii.

 

[R-T-B]

Did you take pictures? Because yeah that might be a problem..

No but it was in the local news and I did witness it. Wasn't really in the picture taking mood, considering I too was cooking every second I stepped outside.

An example report, there ae more if I dig local sources I am sure:

Mass bird death event in Seattle attributed to record heat Monday

State wildlife officials said it appears dozens of juvenile terns fled the heat by jumping from an industrial roof, injuring and killing many.

www.king5.com

 

[95Viper]

Stay on topic!
The topic is "Global Warming & Climate Change Discussion"
This not the lounge... it is the "Science & Technology " forum.

Thank You and Have a Good Day

 

[claes]

Sure rich people can escape climate change and skirt responsibility with their money; that doesn’t mean science doesn’t help explain phenomena or that humans don’t have an impact on CO2 emissions or that the effects of climate change aren’t already readily observable

 

[Easy Rhino]

and thus, I don't care what he thinks. I just want to continue to have the PNW remain at sane temps.

What temperature should the globe be? How did you come to that conclusion? Also, have you considered that you have been lied to by politicians who get institutions to push agendas to increase consolidated global power?

 

[claes]

@Easy Rhino maybe rely on scientists rather than a documentary made by a politician

 

[Easy Rhino]

@Easy Rhino maybe rely on scientists rather than a documentary made by a politician

That politician is the only reason why a thread like this one exists.

 

[lexluthermiester]

If you still believe that man is causing the planet to warm to degree that will cause massive issues then you disagree with Barack Obama's assessment of his latest property purchase in Hawaii.

Nice!

What temperature should the globe be? How did you come to that conclusion? Also, have you considered that you have been lied to by politicians who get institutions to push agendas to increase consolidated global power? Also, we were all supposed to be under water like 15 years ago according to Gore's numbers.

Also nice.

No but it was in the local news and I did witness it. Wasn't really in the picture taking mood, considering I too was cooking every second I stepped outside.

An example report, there ae more if I dig local sources I am sure:

Mass bird death event in Seattle attributed to record heat Monday

State wildlife officials said it appears dozens of juvenile terns fled the heat by jumping from an industrial roof, injuring and killing many.

www.king5.com

Ha! There it is.

Investigators with the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) believe Monday’s record temperatures, when Seattle hit 108 degrees, led dozens of juvenile terns to flee rooftop nests for cooler shelter. But since the young birds can’t fly yet, they plunged to the pavement below, risking injury or death.

The heat didn't kill them, gravity did.

That politician is the only reason why a thread like this one exists.

Rhino, hate to say this to you(mostly because I do it all the time), but you're debating with a brick wall. It's not worth your effort..