Windows 11 General Discussion

[lexluthermiester]

this update actually fixed the slow NVME / C: Drive speeds.
unzipping my 17GB backup folder with around 2900 files in it was always at around 350MB/s now it is ~ 690-750MB/S (and it actually takes half the time compared to before)

Correct. This update fixes a number of problems that have been irritations.

 

[Deleted member 202104]

Moved to Alder Lake so 11 goes along with it.

Installing Start11 got rid of my biggest complaints, and the rest I'll get used to (like I did with 8.1 and Start8).

Desktop screen shot that may or may not show up with the post:

 

[Mussels]

this update actually fixed the slow NVME / C: Drive speeds.
unzipping my 17GB backup folder with around 2900 files in it was always at around 350MB/s now it is ~ 690-750MB/S (and it actually takes half the time compared to before)

Oh good, that's what we wanna see

 

[Deleted member 6693]

BIOS update for MSI X570 Unify - and second "Support Windows 11" update - wonder how many Windows 11 there is

 

[Mussels]

What's new in 1.2.0.5?

 

[Deleted member 6693]

According to MSI, the major changes that the new AMD AGESA 1.2.0.5 BIOS firmware
adds is first of all the update to the new firmware which also updates the SMU firmware for AMD's Ryzen CPUs including
Vermeer (Ryzen 5000),
Cezanne (Ryzen 5000G)
Picasso (Ryzen 3000G)
Raven Ridge (Ryzen 2000G).
Following is the latest screenshot of the AGESA 1.2.0.5 BIOS firmware within Ryzen SMU checker

 

[Space Lynx]

I haven't kept up with the win 11 updates stuff, can someone please confirm me if the amd graphics cards low fps issue has been fixed in full yet? considering upgrading my laptop as I got a christmas bonus check I was not expecting... and the rx6800m laptop is currently on a good sale... hmm

 

[lexluthermiester]

can someone please confirm me if the amd graphics cards low fps issue has been fixed in full yet?

I want to say yes. IIRC the glitch was very minor and really only perceptible with a frame-counting utility. In game a player just wouldn't notice.

 

[Mussels]

I haven't kept up with the win 11 updates stuff, can someone please confirm me if the amd graphics cards low fps issue has been fixed in full yet? considering upgrading my laptop as I got a christmas bonus check I was not expecting... and the rx6800m laptop is currently on a good sale... hmm

I dont think any major bugs are left. They're squashing them at a pretty solid pace.

 

[freeagent]

L3 still isn't fixed for Ryzen

I guess its not a big deal

 

[lexluthermiester]

L3 still isn't fixed for Ryzen

I guess its not a big deal

What? That was fixed in 22000.318. We're currently(last time I checked) 22000.348. Maybe you need to update?

EDIT:
I just checked, we're up to 22000.376 as of KB5008215.

The Ryzen problems have been fixed for a while.

 

[theFOoL]

Funny as I saw a video. He states 11 is like Vista in a way well at least through the comments he reads. Some say windows 7 is best though he states he would not allow users to go that route bc it's not protected. Well I once used avast but now I don't bc they have changed so much. I use Defender and that's it. I'm don't go wondering through sites clicking Ads. I use 10/11 but mostly 10 as when 11 matures

 

[freeagent]

What? That was fixed in 22000.318. We're currently(last time I checked) 22000.348. Maybe you need to update?

EDIT:
I just checked, we're up to 22000.376 as of KB5008215.

The Ryzen problems have been fixed for a while.

I have the most current version, while performance is better, it’s nothing like 10..

 

[lexluthermiester]

I have the most current version, while performance is better, it’s nothing like 10..

Do you have TPM/Secureboot enabled?

 

[freeagent]

Do you have TPM/Secureboot enabled?

Yes, could that be it?

 

[theFOoL]

Yes, could that be it?

So lame that M$ wants this secure crap inplaced only to slow down the system

 

[freeagent]

I am dual booting so I don’t have to use it. Hoping they fix it though because it is nice..

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yes, could that be it?

Very likely. TPM & Secureboot eat a fair amount of system resources. I highly recommend you grab a spare drive, do an install bypassing TPM and testing compared to your Win 10 install. I'd bet real money you'll see an improvement.

 

[R-T-B]

Yes, could that be it?

TPM and secure boot wouldn't effect performance. Virtualization might. But honestly I doubt even that from my experience.

TPM & Secureboot eat a fair amount of system resources.

lol no. They are simple hash/key checks. They use like nothing. The thing you are thinking of is virtualization based security, and turing off virtualization might do something with that.

 

[freeagent]

On my board virtualization is off by default, that’s why I say 11 is broken.. and after this amount of time has gone by I highly doubt it will be properly fixed.

 

[lexluthermiester]

TPM and secure boot wouldn't effect performance.

Can't agree with this. I have seen the performance difference first hand. If the TPM services are started, they put a load on the system whether they are active or not.

lol no. They are simple hash/key checks. They use like nothing. The thing you are thinking of is virtualization based security, and turing off virtualization might do something with that.

And those are services. Not the only ones associated with TPM, but yes. If TPM is disabled in hardware, those services are not started and thus do nothing to add load to the system in question.

 

[Mr Bill]

TPM and secure boot wouldn't effect performance. Virtualization might. But honestly I doubt even that from my experience.

You had a difference experience that I have. I just recovered my windows 10 Pro from a recent image backup, to the same drive I had 11 on, and there is a noticeable difference on my machine. See my system specs.

 

[Mussels]

I can reboot and do a test for you guys, but i'm pretty sure it's been fixed for some time
11 (dirty OS, some background processes always on)

End result: yeah some 11 results are lower. I'll have to retest and see if its variable, but at least its way above where it was.

10 (clean OS)

 

[R-T-B]

You had a difference experience that I have.

I just know what the technologies actually do. Maybe it won't enable Virtualization Based Security if they are off (that could explain it) but these technologies on their own should have no weight whatsoever. Saying so is like saying "SSE is heavy" and makes about as much sense. No it's not it's just an ISA extension.

And those are services.

There are no services that I am aware of that would slow anything down tied to those. The only explanation I can think of is maybe virtualization based security won't activate if they aren't there. But that doesn't technically use them at all. It would be some odd artificial limitation. Not saying that's not possible, because things like that have been done before.

 

[lexluthermiester]

There are no services that I am aware of that would slow anything down tied to those.

Whatever the difference is, there is one. With TPM/secureboot enabled Windows runs slower. I've tested this. Test it for yourself.

The only explanation I can think of is maybe virtualization based security won't activate if they aren't there.

Could be VBS? IIRC, with TPM disabled, VBS doesn't run.

It would be some odd artificial limitation. Not saying that's not possible, because things like that have been done before.

Whether artificial or real, something is slowing down Windows when TPM is enabled.