AMD sales hit 80% for mindfactory.de

[Chrispy_]

People complaining about the cost of the 5800X3D need to remember that it can increase their GPU performance in games by a larger margin than the difference between a $1200 3080Ti and a $1500 3090.
If that 5% better GPU performance is worth an extra $300, then you can afford to spend an extra $150 on a CPU that gives you up to 20% more performance.

Sure, if you're limping along with a GTX 1060 or something, then you should sort your GPU bottleneck out first. The high price of the 5800X3D and 12900KS is justified at the flagship GPU end of the spectrum where using anything other than the best CPU available will reduce the effectiveness of your vastly more expensive GPU. Using even a "good" CPU instead of "the best" CPU is a false economy in a world where top-end GPUs cost 5-10x more than a decent CPU.

 

[ratirt]

5800X3D $449
11700k $199
5800X3d is only 2.5-3% faster but not overclockable where 11700k offers 8% extra performance from overclocking.
So to sum it up 5800X3D is 2.2x times MORE EXPENSIVE and it's 5% SLOWER in both gaming and productivity.
The ONLY reason to buy 5800X3D is if you are AMD fanboy or you just don't know how to use google.

You mean 12700K i think and it is still not faster in gaming in general. Even the 5800x is faster in gaming at 1080p and 1440p than a 11700k according to TPU and not only. So I have no idea where did you get these numbers.
For the record, I'd rather consider people as enthusiasts not fan boys. Your arguments are false and misleading.
11700K costs $380 in Norway.
12700K costs $422 in Norway.
What I'm saying is, your calculation of the performance and price is taken out of thin air and has no merit whatsoever.

But everywhere I look the 5800X3D is still cheaper, or a the very least extremely close.

Apparently people think they will need more cores in the future and/or they are doing a lot of productivity work at home which makes the 5950X more desirable overall.
Maybe they are moving to 4k gaming or 1440p and 5800x3d will not make a lot of difference. Not to mention, 5950X dropped in price.
There's plenty of reasons why.

People complaining about the cost of the 5800X3D need to remember that it can increase their GPU performance in games by a larger margin than the difference between a $1200 3080Ti and a $1500 3090.
If that 5% better GPU performance is worth an extra $300, then you can afford to spend an extra $150 on a CPU that gives you up to 20% more performance.

Sure, if you're limping along with a GTX 1060 or something, then you should sort your GPU bottleneck out first. The high price of the 5800X3D and 12900KS is justified at the flagship GPU end of the spectrum where using anything other than the best CPU available will reduce the effectiveness of your vastly more expensive GPU. Using even a "good" CPU instead of "the best" CPU is a false economy in a world where top-end GPUs cost 5-10x more than a decent CPU.

I mostly agree with you but 5800x3d is not a flagship processor like the 12900KS is. 5800x3d is more of a focused processor on a particular workload to boost performance in that area like gaming. Flagship is a processor that exceeds every other processor of the same producer in every workload. 5800x3d is a showcase of what the new tech can do with gaming and how it boosts performance in that area but it is hard for me to call it a flagship processor considering, 5950X is much faster in productivity.

 

[Chrispy_]

5800x3d is not a flagship processor like the 12900KS is.

Why are you going on about it being called a flagship?
Re-read my comments, I've never called it that - it's something you mis-read perhaps?

 

[ratirt]

Why are you going on about it being called a flagship?
Re-read my comments, I've never called it that - it's something you mis-read perhaps?

Right I did misread my appologies. Sorry for that I thought you are referring to the CPU but clearly you have been talking about the GPUs.
Got stuck in a conversation about flagships with someone else.

 

[Mussels]

5800X3D $449
11700k $199
5800X3d is only 2.5-3% faster but not overclockable where 11700k offers 8% extra performance from overclocking.
So to sum it up 5800X3D is 2.2x times MORE EXPENSIVE and it's 5% SLOWER in both gaming and productivity.
The ONLY reason to buy 5800X3D is if you are AMD fanboy or you just don't know how to use google.

Yeah... you're forgetting the cost of the rest of the parts.

That AMD system doesnt need a high end PSU, motherboard or RAM to reach those speeds - the intel does.
Dont call other people fanboys and tell them to use google, when you're ignoring obvious facts to state YOUR fanboy argument

B450, 5800x3d, any cheap air cooler and DDR4 3200 and you can game away on a 3090 at any res or refresh you want.

That 11700k? Z series board, higher speed memory, far beefier PSU, and either a huge air cooler or an AIO.
Why does this need to be spelled out? Did you forget this? Are you in denial? Are you so used to that being "normal" in your builds you forget its possible to build systems without it?

 

[ARF]

Overall market share globally improves for AMD:

Q1 2022: AMD Overall x86 CPU Market Share - 27.7%.
Q1 2022: AMD Mobility CPU Market Share - 22.5%.
Q1 2022: AMD Server CPU Market Share - 11.6%.
AMD Achieves Record x86 CPU Market Share In Q1 2022: Desktop & Notebook Segment Recovers, Server Share Now at 11.6% (wccftech.com)

Not that bad, but it is still a far cry from what should be.
Five years have passed since the original Zen release, market share development should be better.

 

[ratirt]

Overall market share globally improves for AMD:

Q1 2022: AMD Overall x86 CPU Market Share - 27.7%.
Q1 2022: AMD Mobility CPU Market Share - 22.5%.
Q1 2022: AMD Server CPU Market Share - 11.6%.
AMD Achieves Record x86 CPU Market Share In Q1 2022: Desktop & Notebook Segment Recovers, Server Share Now at 11.6% (wccftech.com)

Not that bad, but it is still a far cry from what should be.
Five years have passed since the original Zen release, market share development should be better.

These margin will not change overtime but how I see it, AMD is on a right trajectory to changing it in AMD's favor.

 

[ARF]

But there is a bad news, too: AMD Gains CPU Share Amid Biggest Desktop PC Quarterly Decline In History | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com)

The Mercury Research CPU market share results are in for the first quarter of 2022, and the results are somewhat dire — Dean McCarron from Mercury reports that aside from IoT/SoC, all segments of the x86 processor market declined during the quarter. Desktop PCs suffered the most as units declined by 30%, the largest quarterly drop in history. That's an incredible reversal after two years of component shortages that kept many PC builders on the sidelines.

Surprisingly, AMD managed to carve out significant wins during the tumultuous quarter and has now, once again, set a new record high x86 market share of 27.7%, an incredible increase of seven percentage points over last year.

Both Intel and AMD suffered from the disturbingly fast decline in the desktop PC market, but AMD didn't lose sales quite as quickly as Intel, resulting in a share gain for the quarter. Notably, much of the decline in desktop PC came as vendors burned through excess CPU inventory, which McCarron says impacted Intel more severely than AMD. As such, Intel still gained some unit share in the desktop PC market compared to a year ago.

30% less sales.

 

[ratirt]

But there is a bad news, too: AMD Gains CPU Share Amid Biggest Desktop PC Quarterly Decline In History | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com)



30% less sales.

Pandemic leftovers. It will pick up soon

 

[ARF]

Pandemic leftovers. It will pick up soon

I don't think so.
They have been saying that the global print of excess money which have no cover in physical production actually led to the global supply shortages - simply because the demand is much higher now.

I think users don't buy because the graphics cards are no longer affordable..

 

[ratirt]

I don't think so.
They have been saying that the global print of excess money which have no cover in physical production actually led to the global supply shortages - simply because the demand is much higher now.

I think users don't buy because the graphics cards are no longer affordable..

That is basically what the TomsHardware claim affects the sales. Global pandemic, the inflation and the general turmoil across the world that cause the decline.
It is not just users. Think about the business perspective. They don't buy as much either.

 

[r9]

Yeah... you're forgetting the cost of the rest of the parts.

That AMD system doesnt need a high end PSU, motherboard or RAM to reach those speeds - the intel does.
Dont call other people fanboys and tell them to use google, when you're ignoring obvious facts to state YOUR fanboy argument

B450, 5800x3d, any cheap air cooler and DDR4 3200 and you can game away on a 3090 at any res or refresh you want.

That 11700k? Z series board, higher speed memory, far beefier PSU, and either a huge air cooler or an AIO.
Why does this need to be spelled out? Did you forget this? Are you in denial? Are you so used to that being "normal" in your builds you forget its possible to build systems without it?

Why do you have to be so mean sometimes

 

[SL2]

Why do you have to be so mean sometimes

Well then don't suggest that, or ask if people are fanboys. Hint: it rarely ends well..

Also not sure how the 11700K is still relevant, Alder is the way to go.

 

[r9]

Well then don't suggest that, or ask if people are fanboys. Hint: it rarely ends well..

Also not sure how the 11700K is still relevant, Alder is the way to go.

Sheldon is that you ?
Some people are just not good at detecting sarcasm.

 

[SL2]

Some people are just not good at detecting sarcasm.

Sarcasm in text.. I'm great at it when I'm the one who's being sarcastic, otherwise it's hit n' miss.

(not being sarcastic (for real))

 

[r9]

Sarcasm in text.. I'm great at it when I'm the one who's being sarcastic, otherwise it's hit n' miss.

(not being sarcastic (for real))

Keep working on it you are doing great!

 

[ARF]

Zen 4:

• 15-24% IPC Increase (Over Zen 3)
• 8-14% Clock Increase (Over Zen 3)
• 28-37% ST Perf Increase (Over Zen 3)
• ST-Like or Higher MT Perf Increase (Over Zen 3)
• 1 MB L2 / 4 MB L3 Per Core (vs 512 KB / 4 MB L3 per Zen 3 Core)
• PCIe 5.0 Support (Increased Lanes)
• DDR5/LPDDR5 Memory Support (DDR5-5200+)

AMD Next-Gen Zen 4, Zen 4C, Zen 5, Zen 6 Core Architectures Rumors: Zen 4 & Zen 4C Power Raphael, Dragon Range, Phoenix, Storm Peak & Possibly Genoa-X CPUs (wccftech.com)

 

[ARF]

Mindfactory celebrates the 50000th sold Ryzen 7 5800X:

AMD Deutschland on Twitter: "Sooooo vielen Dank für den Support, ihr seid alle fabelhaft! " / Twitter
50,000 Ryzen 7 5800X sold: Mindfactory and AMD celebrate - Latest Game Stories


And AMD's server CPU sales are improving:
AMD EPYC CPUs To See 18% Market Share By 2024 As Intel's Xeon Server Hold Declines, Arm CPUs To See 3x Growth (wccftech.com)

AMD-powered servers will account for almost 18% of the overall server shipments in 2024, up from 2020's 10.1% and 2023's 16.3% thanks to AMD platforms' successful penetration into the cloud datacenter industry and HPC server market.

Servers powered by Arm-based CPUs are expected to enjoy a shipment share of close to 10% in 2024, up dramatically from 2020's 3% with Amazon and Nvidia being the main promoters of the servers.

via DigiTimes

The reason for the tremendous momentum in these segments has been the requirement for more cores and AMD is currently one of the top chipmakers that package lots of cores in their chips & their next-gen lineup is expected to offer up to 128 cores by 2023 in the form of EPYC Bergamo. DigiTimes industry sources within the upstream supply chain are also expecting Microsoft and Google to adopt AMD server CPUs for their data center solutions. The report also highlights the recent acquisition of Xilinx which will help AMD gain further adoption in the edge server market.

 

[ARF]

Domination continues:

The Ryzen Threadripper 5990X 128T scores over 100,000 in CB23.
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5990X CPU Overclocked To 4.82 GHz, Shatters 100,000 Points In Cinebench R23 & Achieves 80% Performance Uplift Versus Stock Chip (wccftech.com)

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Domination continues:

The Ryzen Threadripper 5990X 128T scores over 100,000 in CB23.
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5990X CPU Overclocked To 4.82 GHz, Shatters 100,000 Points In Cinebench R23 & Achieves 80% Performance Uplift Versus Stock Chip (wccftech.com)

Yeah well not many are gonna shell out £7k on a CPU just to get a record in R23 are they so pretty much AMD hooting at themselves.

Is this the AMD ego rubbing thread? seems so.

 

[Bomby569]

AMD has been shooting themselves in the foot, higher prices and absurd launches like the r5 5500 but people will shill for them to the end. The same with the absurd gpu's in the low end or the useless rx6*50xt cards

 

[eazen]

AMD has been shooting themselves in the foot, higher prices and absurd launches like the r5 5500 but people will shill for them to the end. The same with the absurd gpu's in the low end or the useless rx6*50xt cards

Not really, the stuff sells. “Absurd launches” is to compete with low end stuff of intel, I don’t see your point. 6500 XT is admittedly a disappointing card, but when it was released it was at least unattractive to miners and wasn’t scalped.

 

[The red spirit]

Does it hurt your ego? Aww.

But really, this thread is all about praising AMD. I used to have AMD chips and even today AMD is in far from perfect position. So meh. Also this is a thread from 2019 so it's definitely a necro.

 

[Bomby569]

Not really, the stuff sells. “Absurd launches” is to compete with low end stuff of intel, I don’t see your point. 6500 XT is admittedly a disappointing card, but when it was released it was at least unattractive to miners and wasn’t scalped.

 

[eazen]

But really, this thread is all about praising AMD. I used to have AMD chips and even today AMD is in far from perfect position. So meh. Also this is a thread from 2019 so it's definitely a necro.

I don’t see the mistake in praising a company that helped us all and still does. Why is everyone so hateful today?

Is this the new style of arguing? Posting videos? I’m not wasting 1 hour of my time for you watching old boring videos, either say whatever point you’re trying to make or gg.