Would you buy a 5000 series ThreadRipper if HEDT(non-pro) models were offered?

[lexluthermiester]

As stated by the topic title: Would you buy a 5000 series ThreadRipper if HEDT(non-pro) models were offered? Specifically, a 12c/24t or 16c/32t quad channel version of the newest line of the ThreadRipper lineup. Offer your vote and discuss. Tell everyone what core combination you like as well.

I'd like to be clear, the purpose of this poll is only to show interest in TR as a HEDT CPU platform. It not intended to impugn the AM$ platform or it's users.

My vote was the second option. I want a 12c/24t version. For some of the work I do, RAM bandwidth is more important than the number of cores/threads.

 

[Kapone33]

As stated by the topic title: Would you buy a 5000 series ThreadRipper if HEDT models were offered? Specifically, a 12c/24t or 16c/32t quad channel version of the newest line of the ThreadRipper lineup. Offer your vote and discuss. Tell everyone what core combination you like as well.

My vote was the second option. I want a 12c/24t version. For some of the work I do, RAM bandwidth is more important than the number of cores/threads.

Anybody who has had TR4 likes AM4 for the CPU but misses TR4 for the flexibility.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

I feel like this poll could change next year. For example, what if TR40 and WRX80 get Zen 4? Those platforms don't need the excess speed of drr5 because of the higher channels and bandwidth they already have.

 

[freeagent]

I voted no.. only because I am content with what I have right now. If they made another CPU that is faster than mine, well my oldest boy would get upgraded from a 5600X to a 5900X

My biggest peeve really is just the latency bench in Aida64. Just because with Intel and DDR3 I was able to achieve much lower latency, and like half the bandwidth

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Only the 24 core 48 thread would of been considered but it's a steep jump from 16c/ 32t from last release

2nd reason nope is I'm only in the market for a lappy so last I looked 5800x with 3060 is the ticket atm but I'm still lurking.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Anybody who has had TR4 likes AM4 for the CPU but misses TR4 for the flexibility.

That's fair.

I feel like this poll could change next year. For example, what if TR40 and WRX80 get Zen 4? Those platforms don't need the excess speed of drr5 because of the higher channels and bandwidth they already have.

Exactly.

 

[AlwaysHope]

No interest whatsoever. My primary use of the best rig I have is gaming, then benching. But gaming highest priority. Imo, wait n' see what rapid lake & AM5 bring to the table in a few months or thereabouts. All the leaks on those over the net, are just that until consumers actually see what these newer platforms bring in outright performance, its 99% hype atm.

 

[ir_cow]

I still mad at AMD for dropping support on the first Threadrippers. They pulled a Intel. Also considering that TR isn't getting the same treatment as the consumer stuff, I think AMD doesn't give a $$%R## about this prosumer market. Just trying to 1up Intel and show off.

I actual use my 1920X TR. Its showing the age because well Intel (and AMD) beats it in about everything now. Can't really upgrade to a 2990X because its expensive and worse than just buying a 5950X. THE ONLY reason I would consider AMD HEDT again if they dropped the price in half for the 64Core.

 

[caroline!]

I'd like better single-core performance over more cores because I mainly use my PC for games, compressing files, editing media and convolutional machine learning, also called "a bunch of if statements" by normies. All rely heavily on IPC rather than the amount of cores available.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Maybe. If they could match the AMx platform processors clock speed, and offer improved core counts and cache sizes, then that could be my dream build part. But really, for the RAM bandwidth and PCIe lanes, the TR PRO models are even more attractive, and you are at the point at which price is not the issue.

I still mad at AMD for dropping support on the first Threadrippers. They pulled a Intel. Also considering that TR isn't getting the same treatment as the consumer stuff, I think AMD doesn't give a $$%R## about this prosumer market. Just trying to 1up Intel and show off.

I really can't see a business case for TR non-pro. When Ryzen 9 came out (Zen 2) with 16-core parts, it really pulled the biggest reason to use these parts down to the cheaper platform.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I really can't see a business case for TR non-pro. When Ryzen 9 came out (Zen 2) with 16-core parts, it really pulled the biggest reason to use these parts down to the cheaper platform.

Except ram bandwidth, which can be very important to many use-case-scenarios. There's also ECC support which is important as well. Those are important selling points for me. Additional, the extra RAM bandwidth can make a difference in some games which are CPU-centric.

 

[eidairaman1]

I tend to build for longevity myself, would like a ddr5 TR 32 or 64 core, best part is my case is eatx anyway

 

[AlwaysHope]

I tend to build for longevity myself, would like a ddr5 TR 32 or 64 core, best part is my case is eatx anyway

No, your not allowed, the tech industry NEEDS your $

 

[eidairaman1]

No, your not allowed, the tech industry NEEDS your $

Probably at that point I will have picked up some Hawaii, Vega, RDNA1/2/3 Sapphire/Workstation Top Cards for Bios Crossflashing

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Except ram bandwidth, which can be very important to many use-case-scenarios. There's also ECC support which is important as well. Those are important selling points for me. Additional, the extra RAM bandwidth can make a difference in some games which are CPU-centric.

Maybe in your first post you should have clarified between TR and TR PRO. How many applications can saturate 2 channels but not 4? Also, I should have clarified that I was talking about a business case for AMD. I highly doubt that they had the volume to support a discrete platform for TR non-pro. Also, the price reduction to the 16/12 core parts would most likely be very small, as a lot of the time increase would be the package, I/O die, and the R&D for the lower volume platform.

 

[P4-630]

I'd like to vote:
No, I'm happy with Intel's current consumer offerings.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Maybe in your first post you should have clarified between TR and TR PRO.

I can do that. Edit button requested.

How many applications can saturate 2 channels but not 4?

That is a valid question. Never done extensive testing on that thought. I do know that jumping from triple channel to quad channel on Intel was a big boost for memory bandwidth. Don't know about Ryzen.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

That is a valid question. Never done extensive testing on that thought. I do know that jumping from triple channel to quad channel on Intel was a big boost for memory bandwidth. Don't know about Ryzen.

It just seems to me that anyone with the money to go Threadripper may as well go PRO, and double up on the benefits of the extra memory channels and (IIRC) even more PCIe lanes. I also think that AMD specifically did not produce TR/TR PRO CPU's with the same core count as AM4 Ryzen to prevent price comparisons, as they could not produce the massive and power-hungry TR chips for anything remotely approaching the cost of the Ryzens.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It just seems to me that anyone with the money to go Threadripper may as well go PRO, and double up on the benefits of the extra memory channels and (IIRC) even more PCIe lanes.

Ah but some of us want the extra memory bandwidth without the godawful price of TR Pro. Quad channel is good enough.

 

[eidairaman1]

It just seems to me that anyone with the money to go Threadripper may as well go PRO, and double up on the benefits of the extra memory channels and (IIRC) even more PCIe lanes. I also think that AMD specifically did not produce TR/TR PRO CPU's with the same core count as AM4 Ryzen to prevent price comparisons, as they could not produce the massive and power-hungry TR chips for anything remotely approaching the cost of the Ryzens.

Ah but some of us want the extra memory bandwidth without the godawful price of TR Pro. Quad channel is good enough.

Going with w/e is the ddr5 variant of wrx8. Lol

 

[eazen]

It just seems to me that anyone with the money to go Threadripper may as well go PRO, and double up on the benefits of the extra memory channels and (IIRC) even more PCIe lanes. I also think that AMD specifically did not produce TR/TR PRO CPU's with the same core count as AM4 Ryzen to prevent price comparisons, as they could not produce the massive and power-hungry TR chips for anything remotely approaching the cost of the Ryzens.

The issue with pro is, that it's for workstation users, it has mainboards optimized for workstation, not general users / gamers and thus you will lose a lot of freedom you would have with the normal platform or normal threadripper. It's not "fancy" anymore and doesn't cater to modifications or overclocking, it's for a dry WS computer.

 

[ratirt]

I have 2 TRs 3970x and i chose these since they are in the middle. I bought them for the cores not for mobo features. I would not see a reason to buy a 12c TR or 16c TR when Ryzen 9 would be fine here. That is of course my case. If I'd be willing to get another TR's 5000 series these would be as well 32c or up. 32c only if the performance against my current set up would have been reasonably higher.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Maybe in your first post you should have clarified between TR and TR PRO.

Edit complete. Hope that clarification helps.

The issue with pro is, that it's for workstation users, it has mainboards optimized for workstation, not general users / gamers and thus you will lose a lot of freedom you would have with the normal platform or normal threadripper. It's not "fancy" anymore and doesn't cater to modifications or overclocking, it's for a dry WS computer.

While all of that is true, I personally am not interested in OCing. There's got to be a bunch of people are though.

 

[dgianstefani]

5950x3d/5900x3d will be better in 95% of workloads.

 

[lexluthermiester]

5950x3d/5900x3d will be better in 95% of workloads.

Maybe, but those CPU's don't exist.