5800x3D Higher Temps with Cinebench R23

[doryuu13]

Good afternoon all,

I recently purchased a 5800x3D to replace my old 2700x as Asrock released BIOS compatibility. I installed the 5800x3D with an EK basic 360 AIO and got everything up and running fine. During gaming or CPUZ stress test temps are hovering between 65 and 75c however, when running all core Cinebench R23 for 10 minute loop, my temps will hit almost 90c on the package and spike above 90 on CCD 0 (highest I saw was 91c). Frequency remains fairly high even at high temps around 4.2 gigahertz but the temps are causing concern. I have seen conflicting information about the subject where some people say 90c is higher than usual and some are saying even with 420mm AIO they will hit 90c on synthetic benchmarks. I have already reseated cpu, repasted the block and made sure contact from the block to the IHS was even but temps stay fairly consistent. I was worried I would need to RMA the chip, does anyone have experience with this chip that can weigh in?

Build:
Case: Lian Li PC 0-11 Dynamic --> 3 bottom intake 120mm fans, 3 side intake 120mm fans, radiator top mounted with 3 Vardar s fans acting as exhaust.
Mobo: Asrock x370 Killer Sli/Ac BIOS 7.40
Cooler: EKWB basic 360 AIO (full pump speed and fans at 100% at 80c)
GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio

 

[tabascosauz]

Okay great thank you so much for your help, the thermals during gaming are completely fine and as such I'll probably just run with it for now

Unfortunately you aren't the first in the past few months to experience water underperforming on 5800X3D. Whether AIO or custom loop (especially loop with older blocks). I'm not sure what it is, I trust that people know how to tighten down their blocks snug (arguably necessarily tighter than air coolers).

It's surprising because even though the 5800X3D's thermal characteristics are heat density and not raw thermal output, on other Ryzen 3000 and 5000 CPUs it's still water that responds best to density-limited scenarios. tbh I haven't seen any amazing X3D results under water

Hot Temps for 5800X3D

hello guys I recently upgraded my 5600X to a 5800X3D. My understanding is that this chip due to the v-cache design runs a bit hotter than a 5800X per say. Now I won't compare it to my 5600X as that was a Ryzen 5, this is a Ryzen 7, so more cores, etc. CPU is the only thing that changed...

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help with undervolting 5800x3d

i'm trying to do undervolting 5800x3d with pbo2 but it's not working at all i tried from -5 to -50 but nothing idle is 43 under load is 90 cb r23 i did follow the method here 5800x3d-owners but nothing it's like it's not applying the setting i enter the only thing that works is on the limits >...

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Actual gaming (ie. not map loading, not game launching, not shader loading) should never really run you past like, 80W max. Cinebench is still a relatively realistic workload for people who do rendering on CPU exclusively, but it's not a gaming load and it's certainly not a very good all-out stress test. ycruncher has a place as a stress test but it's even further from the reality that most people experience with the 5800X3D.

 

[doryuu13]

Unfortunately you aren't the first in the past few months to experience water underperforming on 5800X3D. Whether AIO or custom loop (especially loop with older blocks). I'm not sure what it is, I trust that people know how to tighten down their blocks snug (arguably necessarily tighter than air coolers).

It's surprising because even though the 5800X3D's thermal characteristics are heat density and not raw thermal output, on other Ryzen 3000 and 5000 CPUs it's still water that responds best to density-limited scenarios. tbh I haven't seen any amazing X3D results under water

Hot Temps for 5800X3D

hello guys I recently upgraded my 5600X to a 5800X3D. My understanding is that this chip due to the v-cache design runs a bit hotter than a 5800X per say. Now I won't compare it to my 5600X as that was a Ryzen 5, this is a Ryzen 7, so more cores, etc. CPU is the only thing that changed...

www.techpowerup.com

help with undervolting 5800x3d

i'm trying to do undervolting 5800x3d with pbo2 but it's not working at all i tried from -5 to -50 but nothing idle is 43 under load is 90 cb r23 i did follow the method here 5800x3d-owners but nothing it's like it's not applying the setting i enter the only thing that works is on the limits >...

www.techpowerup.com

Actual gaming (ie. not map loading, not game launching, not shader loading) should never really run you past like, 80W max. Cinebench is still a relatively realistic workload for people who do rendering on CPU exclusively, but it's not a gaming load and it's certainly not a very good all-out stress test. ycruncher has a place as a stress test but it's even further from the reality that most people experience with the 5800X3D.

thanks for the reply, I'm not sure what the issue is as I don't have as much knowledge about these things as many on here however, I can state that even with no undervolt at all, my temps for 10 min R23 run only peaked at 91c on CCD and 89c on package so I feel lucky compared so some. It also takes quite some time for me to reach anywhere close to 90c as well probably 6 to 7 minutes.

 

[freeagent]

For you.... but I also know your ambient temps are probably 20c lower than most people HAH!!! XD

Lol maybe not quite 20

I ran R23 for a half hour, the only reason it hit 65 was because the furnace came on, or else 62 would have been the number

30 mins of R23:

 

[zhoople]

Lol maybe not quite 20

I ran R23 for a half hour, the only reason it hit 65 was because the furnace came on, or else 62 would have been the number

30 mins of R23:View attachment 273613

I had only max 48° after 2 times multicore ( so like 20 mins)... What am i doing right with my airflow?!
Cooler: dark rock pro 4

I had only max 48° after 2 times multicore ( so like 20 mins)... What am i doing right with my airflow?!
Cooler: dark rock pro 4

BUTT i have idle tenps of 32° so idk.. my pc is wierd

 

[tabascosauz]

I had only max 48° after 2 times multicore ( so like 20 mins)... What am i doing right with my airflow?!
Cooler: dark rock pro 4


BUTT i have idle tenps of 32° so idk.. my pc is wierd

Are you running a pre-AGESA 1206 BIOS and therefore running your 5800X3D at 3.4GHz? Otherwise it's beyond a doubt impossible for a properly functioning 5800X3D.

 

[zhoople]

Are you running a pre-AGESA 1206 BIOS and therefore running your 5800X3D at 3.4GHz? Otherwise it's beyond a doubt impossible for a properly functioning 5800X3D.

No i have a normal 5800x that runs on 4.2 ghz

No i have a normal 5800x that runs on 4.2 ghz

And my score is on 13150

 

[tabascosauz]

No i have a normal 5800x that runs on 4.2 ghz

And my score is on 13150

Most of us with CO are running 15K+ at 4.4GHz so.........

5800X =! 5800X3D. You're in the wrong thread. Still, 48C under load is quite cool for a 5800X, assuming you are looking at the right numbers in HWInfo.

 

[zhoople]

Most of us with CO are running 15K+ at 4.4GHz so.........

5800X =! 5800X3D. You're in the wrong thread. Still, 48C under load is quite cool for a 5800X, assuming you are looking at the right numbers in HWInfo.

I had my ai suite opened too to optimize my airflow while doing some marks and i looked on the cpu temps all the time and they was never over 48 wait i can do a bench and send a photo
( I realized that i am in the 3d thread after you replied xD)

 

[freeagent]

And my score is on 13150

Sweet!

Heres mine:

 

[zhoople]

Most of us with CO are running 15K+ at 4.4GHz so.........

5800X =! 5800X3D. You're in the wrong thread. Still, 48C under load is quite cool for a 5800X, assuming you are looking at the right numbers in HWInfo.

Now when i use hwinfo with it ai says 45 and hw says 56.8.. i guess sth wrong with aisuite but 56 is still pretty good. One picture is while bench and the other after it. But im little disapointed that aisuite always told me crap about my temps! But isnt 35° idle a LITTLE bit high? Ai says 31 hw says 35 ;-;

Now when i use hwinfo with it ai says 45 and hw says 56.8.. i guess sth wrong with aisuite but 56 is still pretty good. One picture is while bench and the other after it. But im little disapointed that aisuite always told me crap about my temps! But isnt 35° idle a LITTLE bit high? Ai says 31 hw says 35 ;-;

On the photo ai says 33 but now its 31.. i dont understand it. Hw still on 35

 

[Double-Click]

Good afternoon all,

I recently purchased a 5800x3D to replace my old 2700x as Asrock released BIOS compatibility. I installed the 5800x3D with an EK basic 360 AIO and got everything up and running fine. During gaming or CPUZ stress test temps are hovering between 65 and 75c however, when running all core Cinebench R23 for 10 minute loop, my temps will hit almost 90c on the package and spike above 90 on CCD 0 (highest I saw was 91c). Frequency remains fairly high even at high temps around 4.2 gigahertz but the temps are causing concern. I have seen conflicting information about the subject where some people say 90c is higher than usual and some are saying even with 420mm AIO they will hit 90c on synthetic benchmarks. I have already reseated cpu, repasted the block and made sure contact from the block to the IHS was even but temps stay fairly consistent. I was worried I would need to RMA the chip, does anyone have experience with this chip that can weigh in?

Build:
Case: Lian Li PC 0-11 Dynamic --> 3 bottom intake 120mm fans, 3 side intake 120mm fans, radiator top mounted with 3 Vardar s fans acting as exhaust.
Mobo: Asrock x370 Killer Sli/Ac BIOS 7.40
Cooler: EKWB basic 360 AIO (full pump speed and fans at 100% at 80c)
GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio

This is pretty common for the X3D under full SYN load for a lot of users, she's a toasty one when pushed.
Mine shot right to 90c in R23 when I first set everything up; reseated it a few times to make sure, and yep that was that (Noctua NH-U12A).

The good news though is that enabling a negative core offset makes a big difference in temps and can actually produce some higher clocks too.
Mine is stable with a -30 all-core offset (YMMV), and that dropped my R23 temps down to 82c, in games usually 50-60s.

Not every board that supports the chip will also have core offset options in BIOS, in your case (at least from a quick search), the AC version of your board does have it.
If for some reason it did not though, there is software such as PBO2 Tuner which many use. Worked fine for me in BIOS so I never bothered with it personally.

This owners club has a ton of excellent information in it as well, and should help if you want to explore more on software tuning (it can go quite in depth)

I'd go into your BIOS first since you should have it.
Try -10 offset and if no issues during any stress tests or games, move to -20 and so on.

 

[zhoople]

Sweet!

Heres mine:

View attachment 295367

The cpu runs on 3.4 ghz standart?

 

[tabascosauz]

The cpu runs on 3.4 ghz standart?

The 5800X thread is here.

5800x (and other Zen 3 chips) PBO settings/Temperature fix

The 5800x is well known for having heat issues on stock settings, because it's single 8 core CCX design shares the same power limits as the 2x6 (dual 6 core CCX) 5900x - so it's got a lot less space to cool itself with. A big part of the problem is that motherboards will raise the maximum TDC...

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You don't have a 5800X3D and there was no reason to bring this thread back from the dead.

 

[zhoople]

HB

The 5800X thread is here.

5800x (and other Zen 3 chips) PBO settings/Temperature fix

The 5800x is well known for having heat issues on stock settings, because it's single 8 core CCX design shares the same power limits as the 2x6 (dual 6 core CCX) 5900x - so it's got a lot less space to cool itself with. A big part of the problem is that motherboards will raise the maximum TDC...

www.techpowerup.com

You don't have a 5800X3D and there was no reason to bring this thread back from the dead.

I know. I still posted the bench here. So i thought u find it faster

 

[tabascosauz]

HB

I know. I still posted the bench here. So i thought u find it faster

You're pretty clearly limiting your 5800X to 90W, so the low score, low clocks, low temps are all understandable. Either Eco Mode is enabled, or you changed the PBO limits.

Anyways, you're in the wrong thread - 5800X3D is a very different animal, and the 5800X thread has dozens of pages of great info on how to tune 5800X for better performance and lower temps.