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i3 10100F reaches 85-86 degree in game

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Hi. I'm using 10100F with stock cooler. I don't know if i can undervolt but i tried to undervolt -100W with Throttlestop. It's still reaches 85-86 degree.

When i undervolt both cpu and cpu clock to -125W or higher, CPU reaches max 75-78 degree but computer shuts down itself. What should i do? Is 85-86 degree dangerous in game?

I changed maximum cpu usage from "power settings" %100 to %95. It helped little bit but FPS drop comes too. Sorry for my English, it's not my main language.
 
Anything under 100c is fine.

If you’re bothered by seeing temperatures 80c+, buy the simplest of tower coolers and you’ll be in the 50’s and maybe low 60’s.
 
Super Firm Tofu said:
Anything under 100c is fine.

If you’re bothered by seeing temperatures 80c+, buy the simplest of tower coolers and you’ll be in the 50’s and maybe low 60’s.
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I know 10100F's max temp is 100 degree but, i can't even touch my tempered glass. Isn't it dangerous?

I don't think my PC's air flow is bad, because my GPU is around 65-70 degree max in games.

This is -100W undervolted temps.

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look at the watt power consumption. If it takes reasonable watt to this cpu and it runs hot problem is with the cooling
 
M440 said:
look at the watt power consumption. If it takes reasonable watt to this cpu and it runs hot problem is with the cooling
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10100F's TDP is 65W. In Throttlestop, it looks 30-46W. (not sure, i don't know much). I Alt+Tabbed while taking this SS.

Cooler is stock. IDK what is the problem with that.
 
What case do you have? Having the tempered glass side panel be hot to the touch is something I am not familiar with.
 
kapone32 said:
What case do you have? Having the tempered glass side panel be hot to the touch is something I am not familiar with.
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It's some Turkish brand that not much quality. However, as I said, I don't think it's because of the case. If it was due to the case, I think the GPU temperature would not be 65-70 degrees. GPU running cold but CPU running.

By the way, only between GPU and CPU side are hot to touch.


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emirduman1 said:
10100F's TDP is 65W. In Throttlestop, it looks 30-46W. (not sure, i don't know much). I Alt+Tabbed while taking this SS.

Cooler is stock. IDK what is the problem with that.
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The stock cooler would retail for less than $10 in performance. Even a budget Air cooler in the $20-40 range would solve your problem.





emirduman1 said:
It's some Turkish brand that not much quality. However, as I said, I don't think it's because of the case. If it was due to the case, I think the GPU temperature would not be 65-70 degrees. GPU running cold but CPU running hot.


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The case is fine in terms of space. See my other post about coolers.
 
emirduman1 said:
It's some Turkish brand that not much quality. However, as I said, I don't think it's because of the case. If it was due to the case, I think the GPU temperature would not be 65-70 degrees. GPU running cold but CPU running.

By the way, only between GPU and CPU side are hot to touch.


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As you stated, you're using the stock Intel cooler that's the bare minimum to keep the CPU under 100c.

As I mentioned before, there's nothing wrong with that. It's completely safe and unless you're constantly at 100c, it doesn't affect performance either.

If you want to see lower numbers (it won't change the amount of heat being put into the case) buy a simple tower style air cooler (something in the 30 dollar/euro/pound range will be fine).

In other words, there's nothing wrong. Forget about it and enjoy your PC. :)
 
emirduman1 said:
It's some Turkish brand that not much quality. However, as I said, I don't think it's because of the case. If it was due to the case, I think the GPU temperature would not be 65-70 degrees. GPU running cold but CPU running.

By the way, only between GPU and CPU side are hot to touch.


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Do you have an exhaust fan? if so and as stated then it is fine and normal behaviour of the stock cooler and the only thing you could do to improve the situation is to buy an aftermarket cooler, a cheap tower cooler would be a step up from the jank that Intel ships with CPU's
 
emirduman1 said:
10100F's TDP is 65W. In Throttlestop, it looks 30-46W. (not sure, i don't know much). I Alt+Tabbed while taking this SS.

Cooler is stock. IDK what is the problem with that.
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the possibilities are many, bad thermal compound, bad contact, bad fan speed, bad case airflow.. etc.

if it's your pc and you don't know how people on the messageboard could know?
 
M440 said:
the possibilities are many, bad thermal compound, bad contact, bad fan speed, bad case airflow.. etc.

if it's your pc and you don't know how people on the messageboard could know?
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Nope it's the cooler. Look at the pic and you will see why his Glass side panel is hot to the touch in that area. The fan is obviously the cause as it is a downdraft cooler and obviously is making the rest of the case hotter than a tower cooler directing air through the back of the case would solve it easily.
 
kapone32 said:
Nope it's the cooler. Look at the pic and you will see why his Glass side panel is hot to the touch in that area. The fan is obviously the cause as it is a downdraft cooler and obviously is making the rest of the case hotter than a tower cooler directing air through the back of the case would solve it easily.
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yes, the fact the cooler transfers the heat to the glass suggests its the case airflow
 
I think the temperature is not normal. Even i3 gen 12th is not that hot...You just build it or is it already build a long ago but its only now that the cpu getting hot? If you just build it, maybe the cooler is not properly seated.

And when this temperature reach 85C? When load 20% or, load 50%, or 100% load?
 
emirduman1 said:
I'm using 10100F with stock cooler.
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If you want better temperatures, throw the Intel cooler in the garbage. The Intel cooler will allow the CPU to go up to 100°C during normal use. Almost any aftermarket cooler will do a lot better job than this.

emirduman1 said:
Isn't it dangerous?
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No.

Any temperature less than 100°C is a safe operating temperature for an Intel CPU. That is why intel sets the thermal throttling temperature to 100°C. This forces the CPU to slow down if it ever reaches 100°C. This keeps the CPU cores at a safe temperature.
 
Makes me wonder if the protective film under the stock cooler has been removed, it seems a bit high.
I would take the cooler out and repaste it, and check if film is removed whilst your under the hood anyway.
 
Lokiwoodplan said:
I think the temperature is not normal. Even i3 gen 12th is not that hot...You just build it or is it already build a long ago but its only now that the cpu getting hot? If you just build it, maybe the cooler is not properly seated.

And when this temperature reach 85C? When load 20% or, load 50%, or 100% load?
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Generally %40-50. I did Prime95 stress test, it still reaches 86-87 degrees on %100 load.

I undervolted the CPU like -130mV. It runs cooler, i didn't see any FPS drops yet. Degrees are between 75-82 now.
 
emirduman1 said:
i didn't see any FPS drops yet
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Reducing the voltage reduces power consumption and heat. Reducing the voltage does not reduce performance.

emirduman1 said:
Degrees are between 75-82 now.
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Those temperatures are fine. Save up for a better cooler if you want better temperatures.

Eskimonster said:
if the protective film under the stock cooler has been removed
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The Intel OEM cooler allows the CPU to run at up to 100°C. It is performing exactly as expected.
 
LittleWarlock said:
Doing undervolt does not cause fps drops. Even though I give -170, on the contrary, performance increases.

@emirduman1 %100 olarak kalsın %95'e çektiğin zaman turbo kapanır, önermem.
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unclewebb said:
Reducing the voltage reduces power consumption and heat. Reducing the voltage does not reduce performance.


Those temperatures are fine. Save up for a better cooler if you want better temperatures.


The Intel OEM cooler allows the CPU to run at up to 100°C. It is performing exactly as expected.
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So do I understand correctly? No matter how much I lower the voltage, I will not lose FPS? Settings in below.

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correct, lower the voltage as much as you can before it start crashing.

what case fans you have? what is the gpu?
 
M440 said:
correct, lower the voltage as much as you can before it start crashing.

what case fans you have? what is the gpu?
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ASUS RX 5500XT 8 GB is the GPU. I don't know about case fans but it's probably this:

Performax Aurora RGB 120MM​


This looks like exact fans like in my case. It's not quality, local Turkish brand.
 
emirduman1 said:
So do I understand correctly? No matter how much I lower the voltage, I will not lose FPS?
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You understand correctly.

I do not know who started the myth that lowering voltage will lower performance. This is not true and has never been true. The problem with the internet is if someone says something dumb enough times, it becomes true. Some people will believe almost anything if they read it somewhere on the internet.
 
emirduman1 said:
Generally %40-50. I did Prime95 stress test, it still reaches 86-87 degrees on %100 load.

I undervolted the CPU like -130mV. It runs cooler, i didn't see any FPS drops yet. Degrees are between 75-82 now.
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If it stays 86-87 at 100% load stres test its still safe even though i think for 50% load its a bit hot for more than 85C. I can say that because i use i3 12th and when playing games its only 75C maximum with stock cooler. Also i use only 1 fan case on the back for exhaust.

I think it either not properly seated or you live in a hot country.
 
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