Upcoming Hardware Launches 2025 (Updated May 2025)

[TumbleGeorge]

Any updates?

I think enough new data has already accumulated for this. However, it's almost Christmas and I think Wiz will just wait a little longer to include data from the CES 2024 news.

 

[Wirko]

I think enough new data has already accumulated for this. However, it's almost Christmas and I think Wiz will just wait a little longer to include data from the CES 2024 news.

Hush hush, Wiz is hard at work creating interactive animated roadmaps in blue, red, green and other colours. Every launch date will be slowly drifting towards a later date, so we can se in real time how product launches get delayed!

 

[TumbleGeorge]

It's time to updates?

 

[W1zzard]

It's time to updates?

Yes, but 489574985 GPUs here waiting for review this month

 

[bug]

Yes, but 489574985 GPUs here waiting for review this month

Are you sure? Did you count them twice?

 

[W1zzard]

Finally ..

Updated AMD Zen 4 for Socket AM4
Updated AMD Zen 5 / Ryzen 9000 Series
Added Intel Bartlett Lake-S
Updated Intel Grand Ridge
Updated Intel Arrow Lake
Updated Intel Lunar Lake
Updated Intel Panther Lake
Updated Intel Granite Rapids
Updated Intel Lunar Lake
Added Intel Nova Lake
Added AMD Radeon RX 7700 Non-XT
Added AMD Radeon RX 7800 Non-XT
Updated AMD RDNA 4 / Radeon RX 8000 Series
Updated Intel Alchemist+ Architecture
Updated Intel Battlemage Architecture
Updated Intel Celestial Architecture
Added AMD X690E Chipset
Added AMD X870E Chipset
Added AMD X870 / B850 / B450 Chipsets
Updated GDDR7 Graphics Memory
Updated HBM3e Graphics Memory
Updated HBM4 Graphics Memory
Updated TSMC 2 nanometer
Updated Samsung 3 nanometer
Updated Samsung 2 nanometer
Updated Intel 18A
Added Samsung 280-layer 3D NAND QLC Flash
Removed launched products: AMD Zen 4 APUs for Socket AM5, AMD Phoenix 2 APU, Intel Raptor Lake Refresh Mobile, Intel Meteor Lake, Intel Emerald Rapids, GeForce RTX 4070 Super, 4070 Ti Super, 4080 Super
Removed NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050, which was launched as RTX 4060 non-Ti
Removed Zhaoxin Discrete GPU, of which we haven't heard anything for years

 

[kondamin]

I think i read Intel Bartlett Lake-S being embedded raptor lake so Gen 14

 

[TumbleGeorge]

I think i read Intel Bartlett Lake-S being embedded raptor lake so Gen 14

-S, Embedded? Bad memories
Ps. Lunar Lake twice.

B450 in title for new AMD chipsets?

 

[kondamin]

-S, Embedded? Bad memories

Intel's Bartlett Lake-S is incoming, but not to desktop PCs — chips will debut for Intel's NEX group

Intel preps socketed Bartlett Lake-S for network and edge systems.

www.tomshardware.com

just the ye olde raptor cove and gracemont cores, shouldn't be anything that should induce headaches more than a regular cpu.
Don't know what would make them embedded either, maybe they are running at really really low speeds.

 

[AusWolf]

Intel's Bartlett Lake-S is incoming, but not to desktop PCs — chips will debut for Intel's NEX group

Intel preps socketed Bartlett Lake-S for network and edge systems.

www.tomshardware.com

just the ye olde raptor cove and gracemont cores, shouldn't be anything that should induce headaches more than a regular cpu.
Don't know what would make them embedded either, maybe they are running at really really low speeds.

I read somewhere that Bartlett Lake is rumoured to be a 12/0 p/e-core variant of Raptor Lake, targeted at gamers.

 

[Daven]

I don’t think Zen 4 for AMD4 was ever suppose to happen. Probably a bad rumor.
Grand Ridge has got to be cancelled by now.
It says Rialto Bridge is cancelled so it can be safely removed.
Lunar Lake is mentioned twice.
I thought Intel cancelled the XPU idea (Falcon Shores)
The 4090 Ti and Titan version are looking less and less likely.
Any additional Radeon 7000 series are also looking less and less likely.
Alchemist+ is dead if it ever was.
X690E looks replaced by 800 series chipsets.
All TSMC 4 nm nodes are released. I think the 4+ can be removed.
TSMC 3 nm is released but I’m not sure how many versions.
I think Samsung 4 thru 6 nm are all out. Their 3 nm is a bit iffy.
Intel 4 is out as it is used for Meteor Lake. Its no longer upcoming.

What about all the ARM for laptop and desktop roadmaps? I think Mediatek, Nvidia and Qualcomm all have products released or upcoming successors/first attempts.

 

[W1zzard]

I don’t think Zen 4 for AMD4 was ever suppose to happen. Probably a bad rumor.
Grand Ridge has got to be cancelled by now.
It says Rialto Bridge is cancelled so it can be safely removed.
Lunar Lake is mentioned twice.
I thought Intel cancelled the XPU idea (Falcon Shores)
The 4090 Ti and Titan version are looking less and less likely.
Any additional Radeon 7000 series are also looking less and less likely.
Alchemist+ is dead if it ever was.
X690E looks replaced by 800 series chipsets.
All TSMC 4 nm nodes are released. I think the 4+ can be removed.
TSMC 3 nm is released but I’m not sure how many versions.
I think Samsung 4 thru 6 nm are all out. Their 3 nm is a bit iffy.
Intel 4 is out as it is used for Meteor Lake. Its no longer upcoming.

What about all the ARM for laptop and desktop roadmaps? I think Mediatek, Nvidia and Qualcomm all have products released or upcoming successors/first attempts.

Thanks fixed Lunar Lake
Removed a bunch of nodes, but not all you mentioned
Not sure about ARM for Windows yet, it really has no significant market share and dealing with companies like Qualcomm that don't even officially release hardware unit counts makes little sense

 

[3valatzy]

AMD RDNA 4 / Radeon RX 8000 Series [updated]​

• Release Date: 2024
• Uses Navi 4x GPU family
• Focus on gaming performance, without going overboard with AI #
• Improvements to draw calls #
• Possibly no plans for high-end GPUs, only x700 and below #
• Product stack tops out at $400, but with performance similar to RX 7900 XTX #
• Only Navi 43 and Navi 33 planned #
• Generation codename "GFX1200" #
• also "GFX1201" #
• Sources

AMD Navi 4c​

• Release Date: Possibly canceled #
• Embraces chiplet design even more #
• Separate dies for Shader Engines (SED) and Multimedia & IO (MID) #
• Shader Engine Dies could be built on 3 nanometer TSMC #
• Uses an active interposer (AID) #

The sources point redirects to this article.

Navi 43 and Navi 33 - Navi 33 is a typo. Last we've heard they are Navi 48 (the largest) and Navi 44.
Launch - possibly this summer or later, August?
TSMC 3nm (N3) would be great.

 

[W1zzard]

Only Navi 43 and Navi 33 planned

Typo fixed

Launch - possibly this summer or later, August?

Haven't seen anything more specific than "this year"

The sources point redirects to this article.

It's an expandable spoiler link. Without the Javascript on the article page it won't expand but just add a # to the url of your currently open browser window. It's one of the reasons we've moved to the # links after each line

Last we've heard they are Navi 48 (the largest) and Navi 44.

/doubt, that would be a reversal of AMD's GPU naming strategy

 

[Wirko]

AMD Zen 5 / Ryzen 9000 Series has got all of the following accumulated over time:

• 5 nm or 3 nm TSMC process
• CCDs built on 4 nm TSMC
• Shrink to 3 nm possible later in the lifetime of the product
• Could also be built on 3 nm TSMC
• Phoenix point is built on 5 nm TSMC, with RDNA3 graphics
• Mobile CPU: Kraken Point: (...) 4 nm TSMC EUV (...)

This needs some editing. Also, Phoenix Point is not Zen 5.

Also as a general remark, I know we enthusiasts love reading about nanometerz, but using Intel 4, N4, N3E, SF4, 3LPP would be, I'm trying to find the right word here, less false. Manufacturers usually avoid mentioning nanometres, for some reason. Only in documents targeted at investors are nm more often seen ... again for some reason.

 

[bug]

AMD Zen 5 / Ryzen 9000 Series has got all of the following accumulated over time:

• 5 nm or 3 nm TSMC process
• CCDs built on 4 nm TSMC
• Shrink to 3 nm possible later in the lifetime of the product
• Could also be built on 3 nm TSMC
• Phoenix point is built on 5 nm TSMC, with RDNA3 graphics
• Mobile CPU: Kraken Point: (...) 4 nm TSMC EUV (...)

This needs some editing. Also, Phoenix Point is not Zen 5.

Also as a general remark, I know we enthusiasts love reading about nanometerz, but using Intel 4, N4, N3E, SF4, 3LPP would be, I'm trying to find the right word here, less false. Manufacturers usually avoid mentioning nanometres, for some reason. Only in documents targeted at investors are nm more often seen ... again for some reason.

The reason is pretty obvious: back when transistors were simple squares, you could characterize them by just one dimension. Today, transistors are pretty complex 3D structures. One length characterizes very little (at best).

 

[TumbleGeorge]

Time to updates?

 

[Speedyblupi]

/doubt, that would be a reversal of AMD's GPU naming strategy

My understanding is that the "naming strategy" is just that they name their dies based on the order that they're designed in, and that usually it makes the most sense to design the top die first, but that because AMD supposedly ended up cancelling previous chiplet-based RDNA4 designs (the supposed "Navi 41", "Navi 42", and "Navi 43"), they decided to go back to the drawing board and design a new midrange die rather than just releasing the monolithic low-end Navi 44 die, and because it was the last die they designed they gave it a higher number (Navi 48).
This is all just a rumour, of course, but a few different leakers have said the same thing. Though even if the story is true, I'm not sure why AMD would have skipped Navi 45, 46, and 47; maybe AMD just thought 44 and 48 sounded like numbers that go well together, maybe 45, 46, and 47 were other prototypes that also got cancelled, or maybe the rumours are completely bogus.

I guess we probably don't have long to wait, either way. Hopefully we'll get an announcement at Computex.

 

[AusWolf]

My understanding is that the "naming strategy" is just that they name their dies based on the order that they're designed in, and that usually it makes the most sense to design the top die first, but that because AMD supposedly ended up cancelling previous chiplet-based RDNA4 designs (the supposed "Navi 41", "Navi 42", and "Navi 43"), they decided to go back to the drawing board and design a new midrange die rather than just releasing the monolithic low-end Navi 44 die, and because it was the last die they designed they gave it a higher number (Navi 48).
This is all just a rumour, of course, but a few different leakers have said the same thing. Though even if the story is true, I'm not sure why AMD would have skipped Navi 45, 46, and 47; maybe AMD just thought 44 and 48 sounded like numbers that go well together, maybe 45, 46, and 47 were other prototypes that also got cancelled, or maybe the rumours are completely bogus.

I guess we probably don't have long to wait, either way. Hopefully we'll get an announcement at Computex.

Or maybe AMD simply realised that a higher number on a higher-end chip makes more sense?

 

[WonkoTheSaneUK]

Or maybe AMD simply realised that a higher number on a higher-end chip makes more sense?

IYKYK

 

[Daven]

Just a friendly reminder of a past comment.

Also I don't think there will be anymore Radeon 7000 series SKUs. All of these can be removed. Finally, does Qualcomm have roadmaps for its laptop/desktop SoC? Since Microsoft is going all in with their chips, might want a section for their stuff.

 

[W1zzard]

Just a friendly reminder of a past comment.

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Also I don't think there will be anymore Radeon 7000 series SKUs. All of these can be removed. Finally, does Qualcomm have roadmaps for its laptop/desktop SoC? Since Microsoft is going all in with their chips, might want a section for their stuff.

Removed. I thought of you when making the changes, but was thinking "maybe after Computex?" But you are right, we should have heard something new since then

 

[Daven]

Removed. I thought of you when making the changes, but was thinking "maybe after Computex?" But you are right, we should have heard something new since then

The list is looking so good. Anyone can clearly see the major launches and use the list as a quick reference for purchasing plans. I especially like the foundry section and how the node release plans of the big three line up.

 

[P4-630]

Intel Arrow Lake [updated]​

• Release Date: H2 2024 #

Intel Arrow Lake on track Q4 2024

 

[TumbleGeorge]

PCIe 7.0 version 0.5 is available. In list is mentioned only version 0.3.