Which SSD enclosure to buy?

[veku]

I'm looking for an SSD enclosure for Samsung 990 PRO
I have a TB4 laptop but I also need the enclosure to be compatible USB 3.1 and 3.2 since from time to time I need to connect it to my android phone and an old PC.
I saw ACASIS TBU405 PRO M1 on amazon but I don't know if it's a reliable brand. Is it good? Can it keep the SSD cool enough?
Can you suggest better enclosures (cooler/faster/durable...)?

 

[Contra]

I can only comment on the drive itself, I have one with a built-in heat spreader. It's a very hot drive. avg 60°C in my system at idle (under the video card). You definitely don't want to put it in a limited volume.
For your purposes, PCIE 3.0 drives are better suited, especially energy-efficient ones, something like hynix P31.
Overall, you can try it, the temperature will actually depend on your workload. Otherwise, the drive will just reduce performance to a safe level temp.

 

[_roman_]

For your purposes, PCIE 3.0 drives are better suited, especially energy-efficient ones, something like hynix P31.

No and No and No.

Even with a 10gbps enclosure my backup times are reduced from 6 to 5 minutes just by changing from pcie 3 to pcie 4 nvme drive.

I do not have any issues with my nvme in an usb nvme bridge case.

#1 the topic poster should look into usb 4 / tb4 usb nvme bridge cases. You may use a proper title please. "Looking for a tb4 usb nvme case."

I can only comment on the drive itself, I have one with a built-in heat spreader. It's a very hot drive. avg 60°C in my system at idle (under the video card). You definitely don't want to put it in a limited volume.

It seems you never used an usb nvme bridge case. I make my backups on that drive and I use it as external rescue media / installation source.

 

[Contra]

Even with a 10gbps enclosure my backup times are reduced from 6 to 5 minutes just by changing from pcie 3 to pcie 4 nvme drive

The bus version doesn't matter. Mainly IOPs. Did you do this measurement on the same disk or were they different disks?)

It seems you never used an usb nvme bridge case. I make my backups on that drive and I use it as external rescue media / installation source

I use a simple usb 10Gb/s enclosure for the nvme drives and I must say that under significant load it gets quite hot. You definitely don't want to touch it.

 

[SPDIF]

There are USB4.0 enclosures available already with big cooling solution, some have a build in small ventilator. They are very expensive at moment, around 100 dollar.
They also have an Thunderbolt 3/4 connection, speeds up to 40 Gbps! The brand UGreen has them available.

 

[_roman_]

The bus version doesn't matter. Mainly IOPs. Did you do this measurement on the same disk or were they different disks?)

Honestly. It seeems you never used such a enclosure.

Even with a 10gbps enclosure my backup times are reduced from 6 to 5 minutes just by changing from pcie 3 to pcie 4 nvme drive.

changing from pcie 3 to pcie 4 nvme drive.

My system nvme drive is KC3000 2tb is for sure not the limiting factor.

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I did my backups before on SATA USB bridge with 5gbps with differenst SATA SSDs. Backup times were around 26 minutes.

I'm talking about real life data - no hoax benchmark software. Check my other posts. I talked about my enclosure several times when you are interested in it. My user is not that old. The hole backup process

I use a simple usb 10Gb/s enclosure for the nvme drives and I must say that under significant load it gets quite hot. You definitely don't want to touch it.

Please do your job before making a purchase and read the specs. There are good usb nvme bridge cases and rubbish ones.

I checked over ~100 usb bridges before I made my purchase. I paid extra premium.

This one is trash - worse of the worst usb bridges I ever saw. For educational purposes I share the model number and picture
I needed such a case because I wanted to see if the dead drive with m2 format and sata protocol was really dead. I returned it the two weeks time period. If it had been a decent case I would have kept it because it was sata and nvme capable usb bridge.

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Anyway to the topic poster. You may adapt the title as suggested to somethign better.

Have you checked any webpages who may have suggestion for TB4 / USB 4 usb bridges? Have you scrolled trhough the offers from your shops? like amazon and the others?

 

[Contra]

Honestly. It seeems you never used such a enclosure.

Easy, dude!
I wrote that 990 About a hot disk. If you don't have one or you don't know that it's hot, then don't write nonsense about boxes with $$$ fans that cool it.

Do your homework, sir.
And don't write nonsense about how you managed to make a PCIE4 disk work on a PCIE3 bus 10% faster than its bandwidth.

All the best, sir!

P.S. If you have any suggestions for a box that fits the question, write, we are waiting.
P.P.S. I won't even tell you the model of my box's controller, so as not to make you vomit text again)

ACASIS TBU405 PRO M1

This does not cool the disk. See usb4 enclosure, as written @SPDIF

 

[SPDIF]

 

[veku]

You may adapt the title as suggested to somethign better.

I can't change the title nor edit the first post

Thanks for the info, I'm looking through USB4 enclosures

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So this one, correct?

https://www.amazon.it/UGREEN-Enclosure-Archiviazione-Compatibile-Kingston/dp/B0D3WT2T8C

Some reviews say it gets too hot

Thanks you all!

edit
oh maybe you meant this one, they use the same picture: https://www.amazon.it/UGREEN-Adattatore-Esterno-Archiviazione-Compatibile/dp/B0CLV3D3H6

 

[Harlow]

I bought an earlier version of this Graugear enclosure. This one's good for USB 4.0 and 40Gbps. I don't know if the fan makes any difference but both halves of the case are made from metal which should act as a better heatsink than plastic. There are cheaper (slower) versions for people who don't need USB 4.0 support.

https://www.amazon.it/Alloggiamento...s&sprefix=graugear+m.2,electronics,55&sr=1-12

 

[Waldorf]

@Contra
lol.
i regularly copy around 10-80GB to multiple external backup drives, all M2 gen 4 x4 and not a single one gets more than barely warm),
even the 5 in my pc run warmer, and thats on a custom loop with rad exhaust cpu/gpu heat to the outside, e.g. case temps around 30C.
and yes, all those i use externally now were previously installed in my pc, behind solid mb heatsinks with thermal pads and still had an avg of 10-15C more than in enclosures.


@veku
i tested a couple, all of those where i didnt knew the name either started having issues shortly after i started using them, or didnt perform as sold.
after looking at a couple of ppls reviews taking them apart, outside of colling, it mainly comes down to what controller is inside, and you want to have at least realtek as minimum.
the "no names" i know use have name brand chips for the controller, work as advertised, and are limited by usb port/drive speed (pcie gen 4 x4), not enclosure.

in short, invest a little more in a good one, and it will pay off.
if you dont care about max speed, sabrent/icydock should have something on the lower side of cost.

icydock

Sabrent

 

[veku]

https://www.amazon.it/UGREEN-Adattatore-Esterno-Archiviazione-Compatibile/dp/B0CLV3D3H6

https://www.amazon.it/Enclosure-compatibile-Supporto-dimensioni-Alluminio/dp/B0CR7BY3Y3

Amazon.it

So these are the ones I found looking through amazon
Issue is, there are a few reviews saying the 990 pro gets hot inside & throttled on the ugreen & anyoyo (first 2 links) enclosures
for the 3rd one there are no reviews about using it with a 990 pro
So I'm still not very convinced by any of these
In case I'll just try the ugreen one since it was recommended here too & I need the extra space soon

 

[SPDIF]

I did not see any issues with the Ugreen, witch brand is well known in Europe for good quality.

I sold 25 of them with no complaints, i use 5 of them here no overheating with even a WD SN850X 4TB inside, just don't cover the ventilator holes, of course then it will overheat with no cool air.

 

[veku]

Hello! Took me a while to get the enclosure
So I'm trying to connect it to my android phone (Samsung Z Fold 5) but it's not working
The light on the enclosure doesn't turn on, unlike when I connect it to my PC

Do I need a docking station to power it? Is this the issue? That's kinda annoying if so, I hoped I could just connect it directly

 

[Deleted member 234478]

nvme in ssd cases I get 420mb/s.

I never saw it get warm. otoh, I take the covers off. or dremel a rectangular box for cooling.

 

[Ruru]

Hello! Took me a while to get the enclosure
So I'm trying to connect it to my android phone (Samsung Z Fold 5) but it's not working
The light on the enclosure doesn't turn on, unlike when I connect it to my PC

Do I need a docking station to power it? Is this the issue? That's kinda annoying if so, I hoped I could just connect it directly

No knowledge, but my best guess is that the phone can't power it alone.

 

[Paganstomp]

I'm the champion of using cheap stuff. Here is that Orico NVMe 3.2 USB enclosure with a Silicon Power 2280 Gen 3 installed. Too early in the morning to get a thermal read at this time. May add that later. ( The USB cable that it comes with is garbage. I replace it. )

 

[veku]

No knowledge, but my best guess is that the phone can't power it alone.

I tried connecting to a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 (2017) and it works just fine
It's weird if my Fold 5 can't deliver enough power then, must be some setting
SSD is formatted to exFAT (I have T5 formatted the same way and it works)
default USB configuration transferring files
Any more ideas?

So I'm trying to connect it to my android phone (Samsung Z Fold 5) but it's not working
The light on the enclosure doesn't turn on, unlike when I connect it to my PC

 

[_roman_]

I would not buy a pure plastic USB NVME bridge case. I think i had a similar one like #17 here and returned it instantly to amazon

6 minutes of backup with 90GB data and my current case gets warm which is not a plastic case. 90GB data for a small 1TB crucial p5 plus drive in that usb nvme bridge is not much data written. it is a low wattage nvme. I'm well aware of that some l****o notebooks and some other hardware have touchable surface faces with nearly 50°C.

 

[AUTOEXEC.BAT]

There are USB4.0 enclosures available already with big cooling solution, some have a build in small ventilator. They are very expensive at moment, around 100 dollar.
They also have an Thunderbolt 3/4 connection, speeds up to 40 Gbps! The brand UGreen has them available.

weird thing..... Don't know whats going wrong yet....
Inside is a Lexar NM710 2TB

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
Gigabyte X870e Aorus Elite Wifi 7
64GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000 CL30

Enclosure:

https://www.amazon.nl/-/e...ble-Windows/dp/B0D3WT2T8C

@ USB 3.2 Gen 2x2:

And at USB 4.0:

 

[bonehead123]

uGreen & Sabrent are the 2 that I favor the most, because of build quality and the ability to keep the drive reasonably cool (~50-55c), as well as reasonable prices (~$40-50). I've been using 2 of each with 8TB SN 850X's for about a year now, neveranottaproblemo....and YES, I do some rather large data transfers & back-ups too !

And fyi, that elcheapo Orico one posted above is crap, but hey "cheap is as cheap does"....I ordered 1 a few years ago, it's bridge chip was cracked right out of the box, the replacement would not stay closed due to a ill-fitting latch, and the 3rd one would not even come on right out of the box, so they have been on my "shit/no buy" list since then....

 

[jarablue]

USB 4 all the way juicy nipple!

 

[massaker]

weird thing..... Don't know whats going wrong yet....

I assume, your policies-settings are wrong, set this as follows (don't forget to "enable write-caching on the device"!):

 

[AUTOEXEC.BAT]

I assume, your policies-settings are wrong, set this as follows (don't forget to "enable write-caching on the device"!):
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Thanks, that helped.
Still not what to expect for USB4 and a Lexar NM710 2TB, but at least write speeds are better now

 

[Shou Miko]

Honestly. It seeems you never used such a enclosure.





My system nvme drive is KC3000 2tb is for sure not the limiting factor.

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I did my backups before on SATA USB bridge with 5gbps with differenst SATA SSDs. Backup times were around 26 minutes.

I'm talking about real life data - no hoax benchmark software. Check my other posts. I talked about my enclosure several times when you are interested in it. My user is not that old. The hole backup process



Please do your job before making a purchase and read the specs. There are good usb nvme bridge cases and rubbish ones.

I checked over ~100 usb bridges before I made my purchase. I paid extra premium.

This one is trash - worse of the worst usb bridges I ever saw. For educational purposes I share the model number and picture
I needed such a case because I wanted to see if the dead drive with m2 format and sata protocol was really dead. I returned it the two weeks time period. If it had been a decent case I would have kept it because it was sata and nvme capable usb bridge.
View attachment 382986



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Anyway to the topic poster. You may adapt the title as suggested to somethign better.

Have you checked any webpages who may have suggestion for TB4 / USB 4 usb bridges? Have you scrolled trhough the offers from your shops? like amazon and the others?

I am a big Orico fan and I would recommend their ORICO 40Gbps Case SSD M2 NVMe enclosure

it's like 65 euro which is a good price half of what @veku is listning and Orico's things just keeps working with me with all the features others have but for cheaper.

I have their usb 3.0 docking station for 3.5/2.5 inch drives and 2 of their 3.5inch usb 3.0 enclosures they just work no issues and I have their usb3.1 gen1 2.5inch tools enclosure for ssd also works great.

ORICO 6Gbps USB 3.1 Gen 1 Case Hard Disk 2.5 per 7mm e 9,5 mm, SATA I II III, HDD, SSD, Supporto UASP, TRIM, Tool Free Case HDD 2.5 SATA(Nero, 25PW1-C)

also own their usb-c 3 port hub works like a clam