Help with integrated gpu.

[VuurVOS]

Can you please tell us the FULL system specs? We still dont know which motherboard you have and what kind of memory configuration you are using.
Is it 2x8GB or something else?

 

[PoisonRaven]

Can you please tell us the FULL system specs? We still dont know which motherboard you have and what kind of memory configuration you are using.
Is it 2x8GB or something else?

Hello.

Board: Gigabyte F2A55M-S1.
RAM: 2x8GB DDR3 1600Mhz.
CPU/GPU: A6-7400K with Radeon R5.
Storage: Kingston A400 120GB SSD / Western Digital 500GB HDD (I use the SSD just for Windows and small games)
OS: Windows 10 Pro.

I've been using 4GB RAM and a GT610 till some weeks ago when the 610 started to overheat even after repaste so as I said I got the two ram sticks to use the iGPU but now the performance is terrible.

 

[Shou Miko]

@Shou Miko Yes, I tried running Furmark and the clock still locked at 350 and my bios is updated to latest stable version.

Now I've installed Crimson 16.7.3 that is the oldest driver that AMD let you download for my APU and now it's working fine (the clock cap at 758 during stress test and games) but I don't know why I have such a crap performance. I swear I had better games performance with a single 4GB ram stick and my old GT610 (and it's a low profile version with limited clocks) than now using this iGPU and 16GB ram.

Interesting, you could try the custom drivers I linked to see if a newer driver works for you when the official don't.

I use the driver just to get the newest version for my RX 590 while I wait on something newer to come out that I can buy.

Only issue I had so far after selling my RTX 4070 is with Wolfenstein II The New Colossus not being able to detect my driver

But the game runs like a dream no shutter or lag og any kind

 

[VuurVOS]

Board: Gigabyte F2A55M-S1.

Which revision? rev 1.0 or rev 3.0?

 

[Sound_Card]

I was going to post you need to install Crimson drivers, not adrenalin. R5 is 3 years older than Adrenalin.
Second thing, the GT 610 is faster, not sure where you think that they are equal, never were. The R5 is about as fast as the GT 220. System ram is considerably slower than graphics ram. You can't compare them. The R5 has to use the system bus, it doesn't matter if it has a whooping 16gb of ram.

 

[PoisonRaven]

Which revision? rev 1.0 or rev 3.0?

Rev 3.0.

I was going to post you need to install Crimson drivers, not adrenalin. R5 is 3 years older than Adrenalin.
Second thing, the GT 610 is faster, not sure where you think that they are equal, never were. The R5 is about as fast as the GT 220. System ram is considerably slower than graphics ram. You can't compare them. The R5 has to use the system bus, it doesn't matter if it has a whooping 16gb of ram.

EVGA GT 610 Low Profile this is my GT 610, it's a LP version with limited clocks compared to the "regular" version and it has worst specs than the R5 if you compare. I know a dedicated GPU will always be better than integrated even if they're identical but I was replaying GTA SA for example with the 610 playing with some mods, 4x AA and running fine, now I can barely reach 30 fps. If I run a Furmark stress with both I get double FPS with the R5 but performance in games is just awful.

I'd like to know if that's correct, it says that the iGPU is not using the bus because other GPU is installed (so it shows it as disabled).

 

[VuurVOS]

Rev 3.0.


EVGA GT 610 Low Profile this is my GT 610, it's a LP version with limited clocks compared to the "regular" version and it has worst specs than the R5 if you compare. I know a dedicated GPU will always be better than integrated even if they're identical but I was replaying GTA SA for example with the 610 playing with some mods, 4x AA and running fine, now I can barely reach 30 fps. If I run a Furmark stress with both I get double FPS with the R5 but performance in games is just awful.

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I'd like to know if that's correct, it says that the iGPU is not using the bus because other GPU is installed (so it shows it as disabled).

I would flash FD instead of FEa since that bios is a beta version.

Windows 10 is newer than the release date of the motherboard and it might cause issues.
So if you play old games only, install an older Windows version so you have the proper support baseline:

 

[PoisonRaven]

I would flash FD instead of FEa since that bios is a beta version.

Windows 10 is newer than the release date of the motherboard and it might cause issues.
So if you play old games only, install an older Windows version so you have the proper support baseline:
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Yeah I'm using the FD bios version and there are W10 drivers available in the board site.

 

[Sound_Card]

Rev 3.0.


EVGA GT 610 Low Profile this is my GT 610, it's a LP version with limited clocks compared to the "regular" version and it has worst specs than the R5 if you compare. I know a dedicated GPU will always be better than integrated even if they're identical but I was replaying GTA SA for example with the 610 playing with some mods, 4x AA and running fine, now I can barely reach 30 fps. If I run a Furmark stress with both I get double FPS with the R5 but performance in games is just awful.

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I'd like to know if that's correct, it says that the iGPU is not using the bus because other GPU is installed (so it shows it as disabled).

I'm aware, but you don't understand how handicapped the R5 igp is. Synthetic benchmarks can be deceiving. Games will exasperate the system bus and CPU draw calls. The discrete version of the R5 (230) would be on par or better than the GT 610.

 

[eidairaman1]

I'm aware, but you don't understand how handicapped the R5 igp is. Synthetic benchmarks can be deceiving. Games will exasperate the system bus and CPU draw calls. The discrete version of the R5 (230) would be on par or better than the GT 610.

Yeah in that case a rx6400 or 6500 would be a big step.

I would flash FD instead of FEa since that bios is a beta version.

Windows 10 is newer than the release date of the motherboard and it might cause issues.
So if you play old games only, install an older Windows version so you have the proper support baseline:
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Yeah that's a pitfall of newer windows versions, sometimes games just don't respond correctly and fans have to create patches to make it work, which is above the general populace's heads

 

[PoisonRaven]

@eidairaman1 Believe me that if I'd be able to buy better gear I'd already have done it. All is overpriced here, a RX6400 is around $300 or even more depend the version, I could get a Ryzen 7 5700G + motherboard + 32GB RAM combo for a bit more of money but I have other priorities and don't want to spend that money and the cheapest GPUs you can get are GT 1030 and RX550 that are around $100 but I don't know if them would make a big difference with my CPU.

Sorry to ask this again but HWinfo shows me this:

Is it fine or have to be enabled?.

Thanks a lot for all your replies and patience.

 

[PoisonRaven]

Well, I've been using the Crimson driver till this morning turned on the pc and its says that it was a wrong bios config, check it and everything was fine so I tried to boot again and it works but the Adrenalin driver was installed again, had to uninstall with with DDU and reinstall the Crimson driver again.

Can someone say me why did this happen?.

 

[LabRat 891]

Well, I've been using the Crimson driver till this morning turned on the pc and its says that it was a wrong bios config, check it and everything was fine so I tried to boot again and it works but the Adrenalin driver was installed again, had to uninstall with with DDU and reinstall the Crimson driver again.

Can someone say me why did this happen?.

Hope you just have a dying CMOS battery or something else 'simple'. -Otherwise, sounds like *something* is starting to fail.
Are any of the capacitors on the board 'buldging'?

 

[PoisonRaven]

Hope you just have a dying CMOS battery or something else 'simple'. -Otherwise, sounds like *something* is starting to fail.
Are any of the capacitors on the board 'buldging'?

Hello, everything seems fine. I remember that I had this problem (message saying there's a wrong bios config when boot) like two years ago then disappear after some time.

 

[eidairaman1]

Well, I've been using the Crimson driver till this morning turned on the pc and its says that it was a wrong bios config, check it and everything was fine so I tried to boot again and it works but the Adrenalin driver was installed again, had to uninstall with with DDU and reinstall the Crimson driver again.

Can someone say me why did this happen?.

Change cmos battery first

 

[PoisonRaven]

Change cmos battery first

Unplug and plug it again or change it?, I don't have another one.

 

[eidairaman1]

Unplug and plug it again or change it?, I don't have another one.

Put a new cmos battery in, go buy 1, CR2032 is the type

 

[PoisonRaven]

Put a new cmos battery in, go buy 1, CR2032 is the type

Not sure why I got that bios settings message but seems like Windows Update was forcing the Adrenalin driver update, had to manually force the stop of updates.

Will try to buy a new battery just in case the problem persists, thanks.

 

[Princess Garnet]

Vivi! Yay, haha.

If you have further troubles with Windows updating Adrenalin, try going into device manager and choosing the roll back driver option. Windows will probably force you to choose a reason for why you're rolling it back but you can probably pick anything. I guess it gets sent to Microsoft's logs (I just chose "better performance on older driver" since it was partly true). I had some troubles with Adrenalin being force updated but the drivers weren't being changed, and it kept causing me a mismatch, and that was the only method that stopped Windows from changing it for me.

 

[eidairaman1]

Not sure why I got that bios settings message but seems like Windows Update was forcing the Adrenalin driver update, had to manually force the stop of updates.

Will try to buy a new battery just in case the problem persists, thanks.

Ive been turning that function off since xp days

 

[AleXXX666]

@Shou Miko Yes, I tried running Furmark and the clock still locked at 350 and my bios is updated to latest stable version.

Now I've installed Crimson 16.7.3 that is the oldest driver that AMD let you download for my APU and now it's working fine (the clock cap at 758 during stress test and games) but I don't know why I have such a crap performance. I swear I had better games performance with a single 4GB ram stick and my old GT610 (and it's a low profile version with limited clocks) than now using this iGPU and 16GB ram.

that's the "problem" with some old AMD. I've had old R9 270X, which couldn't install SUPPORTED newest by that day driver, but could use just some "specific" OLDER driver, which I should have been clued, of course... lol.. glad that I've sold this POS out.
BTW, I have old A10-9700 system, and no issues with drivers there, thanks God. Using W10.

 

[Shou Miko]

Ive been turning that function off since xp days

Just a site note this has been broken in Windows 10 and 11 for a couple of years now and it's really annoying even doing through group policy doesn't work even regedit.

This is one more reason I believe MS should start dropping all their plans for AI, funky designs and all that bs and fix the basics that should just work and bring the newer OS for all computers because Windows 11 can run on a potato they even made the LTSC version of Win10 and 11 that proves this but the customers has to be the test bunnies for their shit instead of focus where their focus needs to be....

 

[eidairaman1]

Just a site note this has been broken in Windows 10 and 11 for a couple of years now and it's really annoying even doing through group policy doesn't work even regedit.

This is one more reason I believe MS should start dropping all their plans for AI, funky designs and all that bs and fix the basics that should just work and bring the newer OS for all computers because Windows 11 can run on a potato they even made the LTSC version of Win10 and 11 that proves this but the customers has to be the test bunnies for their shit instead of focus where their focus needs to be....

The paradigm shifted when W8 was created, Since W8 things have gone downhill with MS

 

[eidairaman1]

that's the "problem" with some old AMD. I've had old R9 270X, which couldn't install SUPPORTED newest by that day driver, but could use just some "specific" OLDER driver, which I should have been clued, of course... lol.. glad that I've sold this POS out.
BTW, I have old A10-9700 system, and no issues with drivers there, thanks God. Using W10.

I have a last known W11 driver for a R7 250X

 

[PoisonRaven]

Is there any option like nvidia "threaded optimization" for amd?, that setting helped me a lot with old games when I disabled it but amd doesn't have an option like that, I saw a post recommending a software called Process Lasso to set just one core for specific games but don't know if it's safe to use it.