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I would take a replacement, but they just didn't have one. The alternative was keeping the card and then maybe trying to send it off to Gigabyte for repairs in some later date or just selling it "as is". In any case I’d have to mention it to a prospective buyer and that would bring the value down.

I use AC but not all the time. And even yesterday, when natural ambient was ~18-20C (cold spell here) the VRAM temps in CP2077 were 96C with default fan.


Gigabyte Gaming OC. I think the guys at the service centre were saying that it happens with other models too, though.
You did the right thing, those temps ain't right, its clear as day.
 
Guys, again... every single 9070 and 9070 XT runs with hot VRAM. Every. Single. One. Please don't tell me that there isn't any AMD AIB who knows how to build a card, or that they just suddenly forgot. :kookoo:

After 2 years, they're safe. You're not. Outside the EU, you might even just get 1 year of assurance. After that? Good luck getting a repair deal that doesn't cost you the price of a new GPU. I'll be honest, given the absolutely immense clusterfuck of products lately, no I do NOT have blind trust in AIBs knowing whatever the fck they're doing, nor AMD. Much more likely: they're in a squeeze to get X performance out of Y die space and with memory modules of type Z, and something's gotta give, and the VRAM temp is where that giving went. Its not much unlike Zen parts suddenly knocking the edge of acceptable temps with a 95C baseline. Is it in spec? Sure. Do I like it? Hell no.

Hot parts simply die faster. They just don't die fast enough to claim warranty. Fingers crossed you're lucky enough to not have to deal with this.
 
AMD and AIB ignore those on purpose, cause is cheaper and cause sooner rather than later that will be a money factory, they are not idiots I never said that, hotter cards will degrade faster or have VRAM failure, they will make you to upgrade faster = more money for them.
Yesss, let's make the cards fail, so that people will RMA them... upgrade sooner. Really? :kookoo:

YT reviewers, GN as well : Sapphire Pulse Review @ 19:40 "memory temperature is a problem, is running at 90 C with no reason at all and that's beyond Sapphire cooling" @1800RPM, me and others on TPU.
One single Youtuber said so based on one single review, even though he stated that GPU temperatures are a common feature of the generation.
Since memory temperature is also a common feature of the generation, then maybe... just maybe... everything's fine? I know you're finding it very hard to imagine, but maybe AMD and every single AIB didn't design their cards to fail prematurely?

Edit: If cards fail prematurely, that will paint a bad image of the brand, and people will switch to the competition instead of "upgrading sooner".

9000 running on SK Hynix, different thermal resistance and other specs on the chips. Sometimes with those leaving in denial you have go around in circles till their bubble around them burst or dissolve, hopefully reality will be clear.
OK, then find me the specs on SK Hynix GDDR6 chips, and we'll talk.

Is general knowledge, will do get hotter : dust, dry pads, fan vibrations due to dust and rotor wearing by heat, oscillating voltages in VRM etc :kookoo:
Yes, assumption about the future cause that is happening with each GPU is normal wearing which is resulting in hotter cards.
Maybe that's why we have the sensor data? So that we can change pads when needed? Instead of, you know, pointlessly arguing on a forum.

Besides, my 6750 XT had a GPU hotspot of 105 ˚C when I bought it 3 years ago, and still has a GPU hotspot of 105 ˚C up to this day. And it's running fine. Magic! :)

I already answered to that and to you in another thread, but you chose to ignore it. On short, is cheaper for them now and more expensive for you later.
So every single AIB went for "cheap" solutions on every single one of their cards, be it 2, 3 or 4 slot wide and equipped with 5, 6, 7 or even 8 heatpipes. I wonder what can be so "cheap" that makes VRAM run hot under every single cooler design in existence.

Sorry, no, you don't understand, removing hotspot sensors will make user blind when is the time to change TIC.
A GPU running hot with dry thermal paste will inflict heat by proximity to VRAM but also to VRM(specially on high condensed PCB) which doesn't have sensors so you even more blind to degradation.
I never said I agree with Nvidia's decision - I don't. But I see the reasoning behind it. They didn't want people screaming that it runs hot when in fact, it is well within specs.

Who are those "to many idiots"? you accused me several times of "false assumptions" so... Thanks. Or maybe you enjoy the trolling too much that you have to accuse others of trolling in order to draw attention away from you.:cool:
Ah, the "you accuse me of trolling, so you're the troll" argument. Typical of people trying to look clever without saying anything of value.

Let's leave it at that. Please.


After 2 years, they're safe. You're not. Outside the EU, you might even just get 1 year of assurance. After that? Good luck getting a repair deal that doesn't cost you the price of a new GPU. I'll be honest, given the absolutely immense clusterfuck of products lately, no I do NOT have blind trust in AIBs knowing whatever the fck they're doing, nor AMD. Much more likely: they're in a squeeze to get X performance out of Y die space and with memory modules of type Z, and something's gotta give, and the VRAM temp is where that giving went. Its not much unlike Zen parts suddenly knocking the edge of acceptable temps with a 95C baseline. Is it in spec? Sure. Do I like it? Hell no.

Hot parts simply die faster. They just don't die fast enough to claim warranty. Fingers crossed you're lucky enough to not have to deal with this.
I haven't seen news of Zen chips failing due to high temps. They've been out long enough for some of them to be out of warranty.

I'm not saying that everything is fine. I'm saying that we don't have data, and as such, arguing about things we don't know is pointless.
 
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06.03.2025, PowerColor Red Devil, mediaexpert.pl, €937 VAT included, Poland

even now there are no cards in msrp and never was ;) I wanted this model so ... other models/cards (even "standrad" ones ) are cheaper 50-100€. yeah. something is wrong here in PL ;)
That is actually a good price for that card. In SK/CZ, that card goes for 960+ € incl. VAT.
I wanted this card at first, but later I realized this card offers nothing more than TUF or Nitro+ versions. Not worth the extra 100 €.

I'm getting a suspicion that the cards that people are reporting as stable with a massive -150mv undervolt or more are the factory OC models that start off with a higher-than-reference voltage/frequency curve.

So yeah, maybe -80mv is a hard bar to clear if you have a bone-stock reference card with a conservative voltage to start off with. My goal is to see how little performance I can lose at 250W.
Many of those so called stable -150mV undervolts aren't really stable. They will cause a crash eventually.
People think the card is stable after hour of gaming in 2-3 games.

So, the RX 9070 GRE seems to be happening after all, likely a China-only release, just like other GRE editions. Specs aren't official yet, but it's expected to feature:
  • Navi 48 XL, ≤3584 cores
  • 192-bit bus
  • 12 GB GDDR6
That would place it between the RX 9070 and the 9060 XT. If AMD repeats what they did with the 7900 GRE, there’s a decent chance this one goes global too. Might be a nice entry/mid-range option if priced right. What do you think guys?
Absolutely unnecessary card.
 
Let's leave it at that. Please.
Yes, we've...
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...enough.

Considering the massive gap between the rumoured specs of the 9060 XT and the 9070, I disagree.
So do I. 9070GRE seems like a good idea.
 
Trying to get into this club, but in Spain is quite the ordeal. The cheapest offer (Sapphire Pulse) goes by 790€, reaching even 950€ on some shops. I guess I'll wait till this club is a little less elitist in my country :(
 

I don't think there is a problem with the metal plate, there is a software or hardware problem with the card.
 

I don't think there is a problem with the metal plate, there is a software or hardware problem with the card.

Yeah no issues at all here, these are the highest temps I've seen on my VRAM:
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Interestingly enough, I noticed GPU-Z reports my card has Samsung VRAM?
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Anyway pleased with how my build has come along, again like the fact all the cabling from the card can be completely hidden under the backplate.

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@Fluffmeister The problem is that the third fan broke within 2 weeks and temperatures were observed to be extremely high as seen in the video. Normally these temperatures would not exceed 65 degrees. I deliberately set the fans to 20% so that the temperature difference could be seen. It makes a lot of noise when it works 100%, but I didn't have any temperature problems when the 3rd Fan was working.
 
Trying to get into this club, but in Spain is quite the ordeal. The cheapest offer (Sapphire Pulse) goes by 790€, reaching even 950€ on some shops. I guess I'll wait till this club is a little less elitist in my country :(
Yeah, you're totally right, prices went wild right after launch day. Unfortunately, I think they're going to stay like that for a while. Many stores in other countries also bumped prices by 100 EUR or more across almost every MSRP card, and that seems to be the trend for now. You can still find the Pulse 9070 XT for €789 at Coolmod, which I guess is the store you're referring to, that's €110 more than launch price, but honestly, that might be the best we'll see for the next few months.

I was lucky enough to get the 9070 (non-XT) at MSRP on launch day, from the very site that now has the highest prices. I originally aimed for the XT, but the good deals sold out in under 5 minutes across the three most popular sites. It was crazy.

¡Buena suerte en tu búsqueda, no desfallezcas! :)
 
Trying to get into this club, but in Spain is quite the ordeal. The cheapest offer (Sapphire Pulse) goes by 790€, reaching even 950€ on some shops. I guess I'll wait till this club is a little less elitist in my country :(
Amazon has been listing models at sensible prices and apparently it's something that's only showing up if you have Amazon Prime.

I ordered another 5070Ti last week at £729 MSRP alongside the 9070XT and then later found out when I shared links to a friend that they aren't visible unless you're logged in with a Prime account. I guess Amazon are trying to either defeat scalpers, or extort scalpers for Prime membership. Whatever their motivations are, any attempts to discourage price-scalping gets a thumbs up from me.
 
Amazon has been listing models at sensible prices and apparently it's something that's only showing up if you have Amazon Prime.

I ordered another 5070Ti last week at £729 MSRP alongside the 9070XT and then later found out when I shared links to a friend that they aren't visible unless you're logged in with a Prime account. I guess Amazon are trying to either defeat scalpers, or extort scalpers for Prime membership. Whatever their motivations are, any attempts to discourage price-scalping gets a thumbs up from me.
huh, what do you consider "sensible" prices for the 9070 xt? I've also seen some reasonable priced cards on amazon (without prime). What I noticed is that some offerings only showed up at "9070xt" & some only with "9070 xt" not exactly sure why tho.
 
huh, what do you consider "sensible" prices for the 9070 xt? I've also seen some reasonable priced cards on amazon (without prime). What I noticed is that some offerings only showed up at "9070xt" & some only with "9070 xt" not exactly sure why tho.
Mine was £619, only £50 higher than MSRP. The cheapest it's listed anywhere else is £649, even when it's out of stock.

I have no idea if the MSI 5070Ti Shadow3X and Sapphire 9070XT Pulse that I've bought were part of that "reserved for Prime" scheme, but that's two MSRP 5070Ti's I've bought now.
 
Considering the massive gap between the rumoured specs of the 9060 XT and the 9070, I disagree.
Isn't RX 9070 GRE supposed to have same amount of compute units as RX 9070? That's why I said it's unnecessary. Basically RX 9070 with shrinked VRAM amount.

According to TPU, RX 9060 XT will have 192-bit memory bus width and 12 GB VRAM, along with 2048 compute units. Other sites say that RX 9060 XT will have 8/16 GB VRAM with 128-bit bus. No word on compute units. TPU news post here.

If RX 9060 XT had really 2048 stream processors, that would indeed create an enormous performance gap between RX 9060 XT and 9060. We're talking about 30-35% less performance than 9070. That would mean RX 9060 XT performance is around RX 7700 XT, significantly lower than 6800 XT. People would go for 7800 XT or 7900 XT instead. Therefore, I find it doubtful. RX 9060 XT should have at least 2560 compute units paired with 12 GB VRAM to make some sort of sense. Also, I find it unplausible for AMD to use big Navi 48 die for 9060 XT, does not make sense for just 2048 stream processors.

What makes sense to me is for 9070 GRE to have special die (44 XL) and repurposed faulty Navi 48 dies with at least 3000 working compute units, paired with 12 GB VRAM.
 
Rather have a 9080 XT than an a 9070 GRE.
 
Isn't RX 9070 GRE supposed to have same amount of compute units as RX 9070? That's why I said it's unnecessary. Basically RX 9070 with shrinked VRAM amount.

According to TPU, RX 9060 XT will have 192-bit memory bus width and 12 GB VRAM, along with 2048 compute units. Other sites say that RX 9060 XT will have 8/16 GB VRAM with 128-bit bus. No word on compute units. TPU news post here.

If RX 9060 XT had really 2048 stream processors, that would indeed create an enormous performance gap between RX 9060 XT and 9060. We're talking about 30-35% less performance than 9070. That would mean RX 9060 XT performance is around RX 7700 XT, significantly lower than 6800 XT. People would go for 7800 XT or 7900 XT instead. Therefore, I find it doubtful. RX 9060 XT should have at least 2560 compute units paired with 12 GB VRAM to make some sort of sense. Also, I find it unplausible for AMD to use big Navi 48 die for 9060 XT, does not make sense for just 2048 stream processors.

What makes sense to me is for 9070 GRE to have special die (44 XL) and repurposed faulty Navi 48 dies with at least 3000 working compute units, paired with 12 GB VRAM.
The shipping manifests and certification documents have been spotted in the wild, confirming with no doubt whatsoever that the 9060XT is an 8/16GB part on a 128-bit bus:

These will likely be clocked very high, I'm guessing in the 3.1-3.3GHz range for advertised boost clock, and they'll be pretty inefficient as a result at ~175-200W. I'm expecting it to be approaching the performance of a 4060Ti, but unlikely to beat it overall - possibly stealing the odd win in raster-only games with zero RT.

The shipping manifest and certification is 100% ironclad fact - it's too late for that info to be wrong, but the performance estimates are still just my guesses so take them with a pinch of salt.
 
Isn't RX 9070 GRE supposed to have same amount of compute units as RX 9070? That's why I said it's unnecessary. Basically RX 9070 with shrinked VRAM amount.

According to TPU, RX 9060 XT will have 192-bit memory bus width and 12 GB VRAM, along with 2048 compute units. Other sites say that RX 9060 XT will have 8/16 GB VRAM with 128-bit bus. No word on compute units. TPU news post here.

If RX 9060 XT had really 2048 stream processors, that would indeed create an enormous performance gap between RX 9060 XT and 9060. We're talking about 30-35% less performance than 9070. That would mean RX 9060 XT performance is around RX 7700 XT, significantly lower than 6800 XT. People would go for 7800 XT or 7900 XT instead. Therefore, I find it doubtful. RX 9060 XT should have at least 2560 compute units paired with 12 GB VRAM to make some sort of sense. Also, I find it unplausible for AMD to use big Navi 48 die for 9060 XT, does not make sense for just 2048 stream processors.

What makes sense to me is for 9070 GRE to have special die (44 XL) and repurposed faulty Navi 48 dies with at least 3000 working compute units, paired with 12 GB VRAM.
The 9060 XT is rumoured to be based on Navi 44 with only 2048 stream processors. The 9070 GRE is said to have less than 3584, so it'll slot well between the 9060 XT and 9070.

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With 3584 stream processors, I'd agree that it's pointless.
 
I'm wondering if my aging power supply will suffice for a 9070 XT? I've had it for a little over 7 years now. So no ATX 3.1. If you don't want to look at my system specs this is what I have: EVGA SuperNova P2 850w 80+ Platinum. Quality PSU, and it has been nothing but solid for me. Aside from my 7-year-old power supply my case was also getting up there in age and couldn't fit 90% of the cards coming out today. But my new case is on its way so that's taken care of. Sorry for rambling.
 
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I'm wondering if my aging power supply will suffice for a 9070 XT? I've had it for a little over 7 years now. So no ATX 3.1. If you don't want to look at my system specs this is what I have: EVGA SuperNova P2 850w 80+ Platinum. Quality PSU, and it has been nothing but solid for me. Aside from my 7-year-old power supply my case was also getting up there in age and couldn't fit 90% of the cards coming out today. But my new case is on its way so that's taken care of. Sorry for rambling.
If it runs fine with your 6800XT, you should be fine with a 9070XT. (wattage wise, and it seems the 9070XT isn't too bad efficiency wise) But I'd definitely upgrade the PSU after.
 
I'm wondering if my aging power supply will suffice for a 9070 XT? I've had it for a little over 7 years now. So no ATX 3.1. If you don't want to look at my system specs this is what I have: EVGA SuperNova P2 850w 80+ Platinum. Quality PSU, and it has been nothing but solid for me. Aside from my 7-year-old power supply my case was also getting up there in age and couldn't fit 90% of the cards coming out today. But my new case is on its way so that's taken care of. Sorry for rambling.
should be fine, have a evga goldnova g5 750 Watt and it runs fine with no complaint on it.
 
I'm wondering if my aging power supply will suffice for a 9070 XT? I've had it for a little over 7 years now. So no ATX 3.1. If you don't want to look at my system specs this is what I have: EVGA SuperNova P2 850w 80+ Platinum. Quality PSU, and it has been nothing but solid for me. Aside from my 7-year-old power supply my case was also getting up there in age and couldn't fit 90% of the cards coming out today. But my new case is on its way so that's taken care of. Sorry for rambling.
Of course.

It's a very high-quality, very expensive PSU and it's still in warranty for another three years! 100,000 hours MTBF means that it's got a 50% chance of lasting for 34 years at 8 hours a day every day. Not that it'll be relevant for a cutting-edge PC after 34 years....

I would take a guess that after 10 years, when it's finally out of warranty, it's still in-spec and therefore still likely to be better than a good fraction of brand new, cheaper 850W PSUs.
 
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