5060 Ti 8GB DOA

[_roman_]

I won'T look or check the docs.

I'm not sure if our wizzard benchmarked the 5060Ti with PCIE 5.0. That gpu should only be benchmarked wiht pcie 3.0.
PCIE 5.0 may influence the VRAM a lot. I'll also not go into details VRAM, busspeed and other graphic card parameters. there are tons of tech articles which explain it.

PCIE 4.0 on the graphic card slot are all those cheap AM4 B550 / X570 mainboards. not sure about B450 and the older am4 chipsets. I forgot honestly the details for those. These are end of life anyway.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

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[Hecate91]

I interpret their understanding as planned obsolescence of the 8GB version. They are selling something at a more value oriented price, under the auspices that it has a very finite period of time before the decrease in VRAM will start degrading in performance in ways that the 16GB version won't.

What I meant by saying it's planned obsolescence, 8GB cards are effectively DOA now, and the cost of an 8GB card from Nvidia today isn't justified when the $400 spent would be wasted for the most part as anyone buying one today will need to upgrade sooner if they want to keep playing newer games. Nvidia has always been stingy on providing more VRAM, they're getting egregious with what should've been the 5050. But moving the tiers around while charging more is another issue.

 

[Lew Zealand]

I won'T look or check the docs.

I'm not sure if our wizzard benchmarked the 5060Ti with PCIE 5.0. That gpu should only be benchmarked wiht pcie 3.0.
PCIE 5.0 may influence the VRAM a lot. I'll also not go into details VRAM, busspeed and other graphic card parameters. there are tons of tech articles which explain it.

PCIE 4.0 on the graphic card slot are all those cheap AM4 B550 / X570 mainboards. not sure about B450 and the older am4 chipsets. I forgot honestly the details for those. These are end of life anyway.

B450 is PCIe 3.0 and is an entirely relevant way to use any GPU and is a reasonable configuration to test. In fact I have zero full size PCs with more than PCIe 3.0 though a single MiniPC with PCIe 4.0 (Minisforum UM780).

 

[Rigg]

So - are you actually telling me we had thread after thread after thread about RDNA 2 and whether it's RT performance is "enough" like we do with 8gb? Nope, people bought the cards, turned RT off and moved on. That doesn't just apply to the 6950xt - it applies to every single RDNA 2 (and RDNA 3 card). Where are all the myriad of threads 50 pages long debating whether their RT performance is "enough" and whether or not they are DOA on release?

Will you please, for the love of god, make a coherent argument? Are you seriously suggesting that RDNA 2/3 cards are incapable of using RT? Your only option on RX 6000/7000 cards is/was to turn off RT and move on? No other performance or pricing factors came into play for people buying these cards when they were current gen? No RTX cards struggle and/or under perform RDNA 2/3 cards with RT turned on? VRAM capacity and RT performance are equivalents?

If we were to humor the notion that these two things are equivelent, do you have a specific example of competing Nvidia and AMD cards that represents a close parallel to these 2 5060 Ti variants? If so, can you show some pricing and performance data to support your example? Can you show an example of 2 price competing cards that have the same raster performance, with 5 or more examples of the Nvidia card being at 60 FPS average while the AMDs card is roughly half of that with RT enabled? Can you do all of that without twisting yourself in a knot to misrepresent the cost of the card(s) like you did with you $1400/1300 6950 XT MSRP claim?

I'm not saying you can't do that or you're even necessarily completely off base here. There may actually be an interesting discussion here if you'd be willing to actually engage (in good faith) instead of throwing overly broad (and context free) shit at the wall just to see what sticks. I feel like I'm engaging with a sophist.

 

[Sunny and 75]

First thing you handed down was your DNA

is called being forthright!

the amount of copium

Never gets old! XD!

on the lowest settings, and FG doesn't work on the 8gb

WOW

Spoiler

How can you go lower than lowest settings?! By lowering the render resolution, now that's bleeding edge technology! SMH!

AMD 9060XT 8GB

They should only release the PROPER version aka the 16GB version.

voting with our wallets

priced appropriately

This^

A single 12GB SKU for the 5060Ti would have shut everyone up and prevented 17 pages of arguing, but we don't have that.

It is intentional and BY DESIGN™

I ordered six!

The art of sixties

We even got to talk about the immense power of a 4GB card in 2025 and on the other extreme, how a 5090 is 'also expensive' so what are we even talking about

XD! XD! XD!

I lose my other kidney

No more kidneys left to sell

Also 8GB of vram on a Ti card in 2025 is criminal.

That's a crime against humanity. (Smirking face emoji)

Spoiler

Also Skyrim and her people

I mean, the site owner said so himself, So, Many, Compromises.

Spoiler

It's in the title

It's because Nvidia uses illegal, anti-competitive means, including making the planned obsolescence much more aggressive than it should be. They are cutting the penny literally in half to gain a bit higher profit margin.
But AdoredTV is the king - explains it all pretty well.

They CAN charge whatever cuz there IS no competition.

Nvidia is a bunch of morons

They're ANYTHING but morons.

 

[eidairaman1]

Will you please, for the love of god, make a coherent argument? Are you seriously suggesting that RDNA 2/3 cards are incapable of using RT? Your only option on RX 6000/7000 cards is/was to turn off RT and move on? No other performance or pricing factors came into play for people buying these cards when they were current gen? No RTX cards struggle and/or under perform RDNA 2/3 cards with RT turned on? VRAM capacity and RT performance are equivalents?

If we were to humor the notion that these two things are equivelent, do you have a specific example of competing Nvidia and AMD cards that represents a close parallel to these 2 5060 Ti variants? If so, can you show some pricing and performance data to support your example? Can you show an example of 2 price competing cards that have the same raster performance, with 5 or more examples of the Nvidia card being at 60 FPS average while the AMDs card is roughly half of that with RT enabled? Can you do all of that without twisting yourself in a knot to misrepresent the cost of the card(s) like you did with you $1400/1300 6950 XT MSRP claim?

I'm not saying you can't do that or you're even necessarily completely off base here. There may actually be an interesting discussion here if you'd be willing to actually engage (in good faith) instead of throwing overly broad (and context free) shit at the wall just to see what sticks. I feel like I'm engaging with a sophist.

We can't take jb here seriously

So the 8gb card in question here is a scam.

-Keyboard drop-

/Thread

 

[wolf]

I don't think this means what you think it means.

I think a lot of people also use DOA incorrectly here, or at least in a hyperbolic way.

 

[Rover4444]

That's the thing, you CAN'T find one at msrp that easy, the cheapest that i could found on newegg was like 350 bucks, with other ones going arround 400$

The main reason why i bought my 4060 was because i couldn't find a single b580 at a decent price, it cost me 290$ so i think that was a much better deal.

Right, the B580 is overpriced right now but even at $330 which is what the ONIX card has been going for for the past two weeks it's still tolerable. The 5060 Ti 8GB for $420 also at Newegg is DOA is DOA is DOA. I'd even say it's DOA even at it's MSRP but I can't say the same for the B580 even when it's absolutely overpriced by around 30% at $330.

For instance, the 5060 will be releasing around the same price. Do you think it'll be a better card than the B580? I doubt it.

Will you please, for the love of god, make a coherent argument?

Impossible!

There may actually be an interesting discussion here if you'd be willing to actually engage (in good faith) instead of throwing overly broad (and context free) shit at the wall just to see what sticks. I feel like I'm engaging with a sophist.

Yep. Had to stop replying after a while, it's a waste of time and a drain of energy.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Definition of SOPHIST

philosopher; any of a class of ancient Greek teachers of rhetoric, philosophy, and the art of successful living prominent about the middle of the fifth century b.c. for their adroit subtle and allegedly often specious reasoning; a captious or fallacious reasoner… See the full definition

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I feel like I'm engaging with a sophist.

Interesting irony. Very amusing.

 

[Rover4444]

Definition of SOPHIST

philosopher; any of a class of ancient Greek teachers of rhetoric, philosophy, and the art of successful living prominent about the middle of the fifth century b.c. for their adroit subtle and allegedly often specious reasoning; a captious or fallacious reasoner… See the full definition

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Interesting irony. Very amusing.

How exactly is it ironic? He's using the term correctly.

 

[lexluthermiester]

We can't take jb here seriously

Why?

How exactly is it ironic? He's using the term correctly.

Might have been too subtle for you.. Don't worry about it.

I mean, the site owner said so himself, So, Many, Compromises.

Yeah, but he did NOT say the card was without value.

 

[Rover4444]

Might have been too subtle for you.. Don't worry

Just say you don't know what you're talking about next time.

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I'm certain I must have seen one of his videos at one point, but his thumbnails put me off. Seems very sloppy and clickbaity.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Just say you don't know what you're talking about next time.

Yup, that's got to be it...

 

[Rover4444]

Yup, that's got to be it...

Yes, that's exactly right. Here's the definition of irony. Do better next time.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irony

 

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"She'll hold together"

Gently pats 7900gre

"You hear me baby? Hold together."

 

[Rigg]

Interesting irony. Very amusing.

What's ironic is you considering J2C a well respected reviewer while calling HUB a biased sellout. The self appointed arbiter of meritful testing thinks a clueless hack like JayzTwoCents is a well respected reviewer. Now that's irony. Maybe Tech Jesus can get his testing procedures sorted out for him so he can be less of a joke. He get's an A for effort on that I guess. It doesn't even seem like he considers himself a respected reviewer.

That is, of course, an opinion. As has been shown by objective testers other than HUB, it's not one supported by merit. 8GB has been fine for long time. It doesn't magically become not fine just because certain people say so. And it certainly doesn't become not fine because of biased sellout's like HUB say so. It also doesn't become not fine because well respected reviewers like J2C and GN say so.

People are aggressively pushing for greater VRAM amounts not because it's not enough to game on but because it's popular opinion. They're doing that instead of looking at objective, meritful testing. It is deliberate misinformation at best and arrogant ignorance at it's worst. People desperately need to go back to that thing called "thinking" rather than knee-jerk reacting with their feelings.

Thanks for the laugh. This post is seriously hilarious. Next level irony on several fronts. It's the best post in the thread for all of the wrong reasons.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thanks for the laugh.

You're most welcome. Any time!

It's the best post in the thread for all of the wrong reasons.

Coming from you, this is easily the finest of compliments. Cheers!

 

[Rigg]

You're most welcome. Any time!

Coming from you, this is easily the finest of compliments. Cheers!

This would be so much more entertaining if we were drunk.

 

[NSR]

On VRAM testing, I sure wish more benchmarks displayed how much system memory was being used in this type of testing.

When testing 8GB there's not always a visible or major performance loss, but if it's still going into system memory is 8GB enough or is that specific game just managing your resources well?

Even better, some games won't even risk letting you go into system memory and lower your textures for you or prevent you from turning them up at all. Again, is this 8GB being enough or the game working around a limitation?

This isn't even necessarily a bad thing. If you bought an 8GB GPU a few years ago it's great if you're still able to play games where developers do these things but if you bought a brand new one last week and are subject to the same things...

 

[Rover4444]

What's ironic is you considering J2C a well respected reviewer while calling HUB a biased sellout.

What's funny is that JayzTwoCents is actually saying the exact same thing HUB is. He literally said in this video at around the 3:45 mark that "there is absolutely no reason whatsoever that the 8 gig card should exist." If the same guy who glazed the 4060 Ti 8GB is saying this card shouldn't even exist you've got a problem.